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No powers.

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My wife Storm wins.

I cant recall any of carols h2h feats. She should have some but leaning towards storm for now

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I cant recall any of carols h2h feats. She should have some but leaning towards storm for now

Took down some Alien guard is the only one that comes from the top of my mind.

I'm assuming Carol wins though she's military trained and possibly kree as well. What has Storm done?) H2H?

Lots of danger room training and doing very well against T'Challa.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Lots of danger room training and doing very well against T'Challa.

Danger room, the area in the X-Mansion thats pretty much a obstacle course? Doing well against T'Challah? I'm assuming he wasn't actually trying to physically hurt her?

Nevermind the AvX fight... Looks like PIS but regardless would put her above Carol.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Danger room, the area in the X-Mansion thats pretty much a obstacle course? Doing well against T'Challah? I'm assuming he wasn't actually trying to physically hurt her? he wasn't. Was actually trying to stop the fight and attempted to break it off several times and storm still cheapshotted him. Anyway, she's received training from wolverine, beaten cyclops, and has years of training from the x-men.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Nevermind the AvX fight... Looks like PIS but regardless would put her above Carol.


Originally posted by deathslash
he wasn't. Was actually trying to stop the fight and attempted to break it off several times and storm still cheapshotted him. Anyway, she's received training from wolverine, beaten cyclops, and has years of training from the x-men.

Storm wins from what we seem from their showings.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Took down some Alien guard is the only one that comes from the top of my mind.

I'm assuming Carol wins though she's military trained and possibly kree as well.
She also had a stint as a SHIELD agent while depowered. Most of the Avengers have received basic h2h training from Captain America. Her power set also requires her to physically interact with opponents, unlike Storm, who usually fights at a distance.

NOT saying Carol wins, just filling in some gaps.

This is one of Storm's best fight scenes, if not THE best.

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Carol during her SHIELD days.

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Choking out Mystique.

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Just prior to the choking.

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Yeah, Storm beating Callisto is very impressive. She also beat Marrow h2h, iirc.

She only beat Cyclops because he wasn't trying, but you could argue she's on his level if not superior, imo.

^^^Works for me. I dont think he's that great.

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"Not that great" because he wasn't able to beat Shang Chi and Deadpool at the same time?

He's a decent martial artist. He isn't Batman, but he's not some kind of schmuck either.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"Not that great" because he wasn't able to beat Shang Chi and Deadpool at the same time?

It's not Shang-Chi, you noob It's Shen Kuei, ffs. But yeah, skill-wise he's equal or comparable to Shang.

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Anyway, Storm wins. Better feats and more of them, while powerless.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"LHe's a decent martial artist. He isn't Batman...
Thats funny because the scan came from an old Cyke/Joker thread i started i made where he was being hyped waaay too much in the h2h category.

Question while you're around: How good is Mystique supposed to be? I'm thinking good, but the scan speaks for itself.

Was Carol powerless at the time?

Originally posted by riv6672
Thats funny because the scan came from an old Cyke/Joker thread i started i made where he was being hyped waaay too much in the h2h category.

Question while you're around: How good is Mystique supposed to be? I'm thinking good, but the scan speaks for itself. back then, mystique's h2h abilities weren't really explored. Since then, she's been able to take down night crawler, solo wolverine, etc. Counting that fight for Carol would be like counting iron fist's fights with a (at that time) powerless sabretooth.

Even if that was Raven at her best, it's still not enough to match Storm's feats.

Whenever Storm has gotten into a h2h fight she has proven to be both amazingly skilled and amazingly strong. Carol has some skillz too, but she's no match for Storm.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Was Carol powerless at the time?
Yeah, thats why she was so pissed.

Originally posted by deathslash
back then, mystique's h2h abilities weren't really explored. Since then, she's been able to take down night crawler, solo wolverine, etc. Counting that fight for Carol would be like counting iron fist's fights with a (at that time) powerless sabretooth.
Except in This case its Carol thats powerless, and still kicking Mystique's ass.
So, retconned bad assery for Mystique, bad assery by choke out for Carol.
The retcon thing has been used here multiple times, no reason not to now.

Originally posted by Magnon
Whenever Storm has gotten into a h2h fight she has proven to be both amazingly skilled and amazingly strong. Carol has some skillz too, but she's no match for Storm.
Well she choked out Mystique in like 3 moves, and Mystique's been able to take down night crawler, solo wolverine, etc.

Or so i've heard.

Serious Logan has two-shotted Raven

Don't think she has ever solo'd him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Serious Logan has two-shotted Raven

Don't think she has ever solo'd him.
My mind is in the gutter.
That all sounded so porn-ish as i read it!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's not Shang-Chi, you noob It's Shen Kuei, ffs. But yeah, skill-wise he's equal or comparable to Shang.

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Anyway, Storm wins. Better feats and more of them, while powerless.

I wasn't sure when I wrote it. Dammit, I haven't read it in so long.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thats funny because the scan came from an old Cyke/Joker thread i started i made where he was being hyped waaay too much in the h2h category.

Question while you're around: How good is Mystique supposed to be? I'm thinking good, but the scan speaks for itself.

She's good, but again, she's not someone like Batman's level. If Wolverine is at anything close to his best, she shouldn't have a chance against him.

So where are we at, Storm and Danvers are scissoring?

Originally posted by riv6672
Well she choked out Mystique in like 3 moves, and Mystique's been able to take down night crawler, solo wolverine, etc.

Or so i've heard.

Mystique is an incredible fighter by showings, criminally underrated on versus boards.

Originally posted by -Pr-
She's good, but again, she's not someone like Batman's level. If Wolverine is at anything close to his best, she shouldn't have a chance against him.



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3. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nidaime-Sama/media/Pics/Wolverine_304_TheGroup_018.jpg.html

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Mystique is an incredible fighter by showings, criminally underrated on versus boards.
Thats what i figured.

Just to be clear, i'm not cherrleading Carol per say, just devils advocating. If Storm were getting underrated i'd have done the same.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


1. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nidaime-Sama/media/Pics/Wolverine_304_TheGroup_015.jpg.html
2. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nidaime-Sama/media/Pics/Wolverine_304_TheGroup_017.jpg.html
3. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nidaime-Sama/media/Pics/Wolverine_304_TheGroup_018.jpg.html that art is so bad that my eyes practically bled.

Originally posted by deathslash
that art is so bad that my eyes practically bled.

3 different artists, lol.

I'm assuming you're talking about Dillon's?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
3 different artists, lol.

I'm assuming you're talking about Dillon's? f*cking right. His stuff is terrible. It's weird, I've never seen someone get the anatomy so right and still draw blood splatter, faces, and injuries in such an unnatural way.

^^^It works with Punisher.
Dillon was born to do a Punisher book.