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SoD stomps.

Rebels Maul based on the evidence in the OP.

Who even cares about evidence when you have that grorious opinion? Maul obviously has grown weaker because he didn't lolstomp Kanan and Ahsoka at the same time. It's the only thing that makes sense.

SoD in my personal opinion. It was always Maul's physique which gave him an edge. Now he's just a sith version of Ben Kenobi

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Who even cares about evidence when you have that grorious opinion? Maul obviously has grown weaker because he didn't lolstomp Kanan and Ahsoka at the same time. It's the only thing that makes sense. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147508/4842692-sw+%2812%29.gif

ILS dies

http://33.media.tumblr.com/034d57b8f4e4c20d4d86c5ef03f950bc/tumblr_nwdox6vRQc1uf9p92o2_r1_250.gif
http://followgreg.com/gregoryng/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/medium_felldown-1.jpg

Gained new abilities...yet didn't even show them in the final when they could have been useful..

Originally posted by |King Joker|
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/147508/4842692-sw+%2812%29.gif
Concession accepted.

Maybe grew more powerful in the force but not as physically strong/skilled as before

He's obviously still physically fit, though admittedly probably not to the same extent as before, but if he has indeed grown more powerful, it should easily make up the physical disparity and possibly even increase his physical capability via Force augmentation.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Concession accepted. homo

Cotton picker.

LMFAO

Aight, tacking on one W for Freshest today.

SoD Maul; it's hardly a stomp, though.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
SoD Maul; it's hardly a stomp, though. Why does he win?

Rebels Maul past his glory days, bruh. And seems to struggle more with suspending the Seventh Sister than Obi-Wan, so I'm going to have to question that force edge he supposedly has too, unfortunately.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Rebels Maul past his glory days, bruh. And seems to struggle more with suspending the Seventh Sister than Obi-Wan, so I'm going to have to question that force edge he supposedly has too, unfortunately. Wouldn't you as well, if the empire you built was dismantled and everything you've achieved was destroyed and you were living as a hermit? His longing for his past power (likely in a different sense, i.e. political power, being a relevant galactic figure, and someone with potential) doesn't reflect a degradation in his current combative abilities. I also don't see how he was struggling at all against either, honestly (Kenobi was also concussed, if we're thinking of the same thing).

We are not.

Yeah he didn't really struggle lol

Originally posted by NewGuy01
We are not. What are you referring to, then?

Sith Hunters. And yes, DMB, he was visibly struggling to keep SS suspended.

Legends, hoe. And no, he really wasn't.

Well he was yelling and grunting and snarling... Which is pretty standard for him in any situation.

Also the fact he failed that miserably against Kanan speaks for itself.

Right I suppose TPM Kenobi, Pirates, and Embo's dog are a step up from that

Originally posted by Kurk
Also the fact he failed that miserably against Kanan speaks for itself. https://66.media.tumblr.com/92421b131c806967a34fdb30d20c0375/tumblr_mz18v0g8ga1rflq7lo1_250.gif

Yeah if Kanan's doing much better against him than someone who held off Vader is, that defeat is completely and utterly sketchy.

Stop it. Using logic when discussing Maul's defeat against Kanan is strictly forbidden.

Kinda the rules the writers of the episode went by tbf

Ahsoka is shit. Maul is shit because he didn't behead her. SoD wins 10/10.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Sith Hunters. And yes, DMB, he was visibly struggling to keep SS suspended. Nah, I assume you're referring to this:

https://i.imgflip.com/15a4zm.gif

However I interpret that as Maul putting more power into the grip so he could maintain her suspension and eviscerate her with his lightsaber simultaneously (without gesture) - which is pretty impressive actually and would constitute a new ability.

Originally posted by Kurk
Also the fact he failed that miserably against Kanan speaks for itself. It's confirmed to have been Oneness friend.Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Ahsoka is shit. Maul is shit because he didn't behead her. SoD wins 10/10. http://i.imgur.com/UgvS0FT.png

...denial.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah, I assume you're referring to this:

https://i.imgflip.com/15a4zm.gif

However I interpret that as Maul putting more power into the grip so he could maintain her suspension and eviscerate her with his lightsaber simultaneously (without gesture) - which is pretty impressive actually and would constitute a new ability.

New ability huh?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m2LV9vWzw_k/VIxBV2YK9QI/AAAAAAAGcNM/fXmEx3EKzXY/s1600/p1_26%2Bcopy.jpg

Why in the actual **** are you even alive, tbh?

Originally posted by Syndicate
New ability huh?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m2LV9vWzw_k/VIxBV2YK9QI/AAAAAAAGcNM/fXmEx3EKzXY/s1600/p1_26%2Bcopy.jpg Ahh, I'm lost... what?

Second panel on the right hand side fam.

Why is Marek relevant, though...?

Rebels Maul and Marek don't even exist in the same continuity. You realize this, yes? And that the ability would be new to Maul, is the point, not everyone?

I'm just saying it's not an ability that we've never seen demonstrated before.

My apologies. I misinterpreted this statement.

"which is pretty impressive actually and would constitute a new ability."

I thought Beni was saying it was a new ability in general.

You can hang yourself now.

With what? I live under a bridge.

The cables from your computer? Tie them to the railings.

I'm on my phone.

We've got time to wait.

Syndicate, you could always jump off the bridge you're living under.

It's not tall enough to kill me. Maybe break a few bones if I aim it just right.

That's perfect, actually. Just jump off it over and over again until dead as a doornail.

Just fall on your head as you did at birth you imbecile.

Alright I'm going to try it. Wish me luck.

http://i.imgur.com/ULy7Gsh.png

Lmao

Maul threads that facilitate organized suicide.

I approve.

Badabing purging, I approve.

Originally posted by ILS
Maul threads that facilitate organized suicide.

I approve. Who wins?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Who wins? I don't find the talk of Maul declining physically being overly compelling given that there's way more examples of Sith growing in overall power despite physical decline (opposed to Ben Kenobi, a Jedi hermit). The Force transcends the physical body until it gets extreme.

He's been building on the teachings he received from Sidious and going through ancient temples, ergo he should be more powerful in the Force than before, which ties into everything combat related. Rebels Maul on that basis is better.

I concur

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Who even cares about evidence when you have that grorious opinion? Maul obviously has grown weaker because he didn't lolstomp Kanan and Ahsoka at the same time. It's the only thing that makes sense. not to mention he couldn't twirl his blade half as fast as savage could twirl his, so even though his force powers increased it couldn't be by to much heck even if he learned some new tricks his younger self was in much better physical condition than the new one even though still in remarkable shape for his age(like 60-80 right?) but yeah he should have stomped konan who left before completing training and also is only a self proclaimed knight(besides ahsoka)

Originally posted by ILS
I don't find the talk of Maul declining physically being overly compelling given that there's way more examples of Sith growing in overall power despite physical decline (opposed to Ben Kenobi, a Jedi hermit). The Force transcends the physical body until it gets extreme.

He's been building on the teachings he received from Sidious and going through ancient temples, ergo he should be more powerful in the Force than before, which ties into everything combat related. Rebels Maul on that basis is better. Anakin lost 4 limbs, quite a few organs, and a lot of his skin... he lost so much potential sidious kept looking to replace him even though he was still top tier, maul lost all of his waist down... I don't think his force potential is gonna be that much more lhh, but if im wrong about the midichlorian logic just tell me

Except Maul hasn't lost jack shit since TPM, and since TPM he's stated to have only grown more powerful, so suggesting that this limits Maul in Rebels in comparison to his previous peak incarnation where he's already surmounted this weakness kinda doesn't really mean anything.

Tbh the fact that Vader has grown more powerful and that Maul clearly has grown more powerful, means that the whole mechanical body parts of theirs doesn't affect their powers at all.

Sidious only wanted Luke, not because Vader was lacking, just that Luke was stronger than Vader. That simple.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Tbh the fact that Vader has grown more powerful and that Maul clearly has grown more powerful, means that the whole mechanical body parts of theirs doesn't affect their powers at all.

Sidious only wanted Luke, not because Vader was lacking, just that Luke was stronger than Vader. That simple. he also wanted to replace vader with the previous form of maul, no doubt vader was still a beast and luke had much more potential

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Except Maul hasn't lost jack shit since TPM, and since TPM he's stated to have only grown more powerful, so suggesting that this limits Maul in Rebels in comparison to his previous peak incarnation where he's already surmounted this weakness kinda doesn't really mean anything. from what I know vader only matches up to "Anakin" in the clone wars, but the problem I have with rebels is... maul still had his synthetic red light saber, which he lost a while back... not saying that maul isn't powerful but he wouldn't be strong enough to outclass his former self atleast not to the degree I THINK you assume

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Tbh the fact that Vader has grown more powerful and that Maul clearly has grown more powerful, means that the whole mechanical body parts of theirs doesn't affect their powers at all.

Sidious only wanted Luke, not because Vader was lacking, just that Luke was stronger than Vader. That simple. Did you watch the movies?

Originally posted by ILS
Did you watch the movies?

Yeah and?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yeah and? Vader losing his chance to be the most powerful Force user ever, because he was cut to pieces, is a thing. Sidious did want Luke because he was stronger than Vader, but Vader was definitely lacking.

Edit: Just forget it.

It's somewhat troubling when people talk about power and potential as if they were mutually exclusive.

You know what...forget it. Clearly there's something of an issue with my wording of things, so I'll just stop here.

Um... saying the right words is important, yeah.

Son of Dathomir was clearly Maul's prime, yeah, but Rebels shouldn't be that far behind.

Whereas he lacks his prior physical glory days, he's certainly grown more masterful in the Force.

Think Obi-Wan Kenobi in III versus Old Ben Kenobi in IV. He's not as good on the Death Star, but still good.

If Rebels Maul is going to challenge Vader, then he will be above SOD Maul, given SOD Maul could not challenge Sidious, and Vader is confirmed > Sidious



Originally posted by Beniboybling
http://i.imgur.com/ULy7Gsh.png

Lmao


Just read that whole thing. Too funny.

Source for Vader losing potential?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Source for Vader losing potential? As if sources confirming and / or heavily implying something matter nowadays. We can just ignore it and continue spouting the same opinions with gusto.

Joker gets it.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
As if sources confirming and / or heavily implying something matter nowadays. We can just ignore it and continue spouting the same opinions with gusto.
Oh right. Think about it. Why else would Ahsoka leave the Order if not out of the great shame that her inadequacies brought to it. Pretty much anyone who doesn't instantly kill her will be ragdolled by RotJ Luke if he's not jobbing.