Yoda vs. Vader and Jerec

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The Ellimist
1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

The Ellimist
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Jmanghan
I don't think Jerec by himself is a big enough threat.

Giving him the power of the Valley of the Jedi is a bigger win in the other direction.

The Ellimist
Jerec's power apparently "rivals" Vader's.

Zenwolf
Jerec's power is rather considerable given feats, knowledge and accolades, not much of a stretch it rivals his.

Even still, not sure it's enough to actually pose a threat together with Vader against Yoda.

JKBart
Yeah, direct Force power usage from Jerec won't matter against Yoda, even though he is worthy of respect in that regard. But in actual combat Jerec lags behind too much.

You would basically need second Vader to have a chance to take out Yoda, let alone someone who doesn't hold a candle in actual combat.

cs_zoltan
kek Jerec ain't rivaling shit.

FreshestSlice
Lel thumb up

carthage
Yoda isn't beating them both in force, he wins sabers and all out though

Jmanghan
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
kek Jerec ain't rivaling shit. Unless he has the Valley of the Jedi.

FreshestSlice
Even with the Valley of the Jedi, he let Kyle cut him off from the Force. He's not Vader-tier in anything.

The Ellimist
Freshest you're really inconsistent in when you take sourcebook statements for face value.

Don't worry, nobody has noticed it.

cs_zoltan
Jerec rivaling Vader is not a sourcebook statement kek.

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Freshest you're really inconsistent in when you take sourcebook statements for face value.

Don't worry, nobody has noticed it.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Jerec rivaling Vader is not a sourcebook statement kek.

Zenwolf
It's actually in the Dark Forces 2 Manual.

FreshestSlice
Which is a statement given from Rahn's perspective. Not an objective source. erm

Zenwolf
Just merely pointing out, it's not in a Sourcebook, but a Manual.

cs_zoltan

The Ellimist
Or he's talking about their combined ghost power. mmm

The Ellimist
Not that my use of the word "sourcebook" really changes the point.

FreshestSlice
The fact that it comes from a shit Jedi and Jarec losing horribly to Kyle does.

cs_zoltan
Vader ragdolls a guy who can obliterate frigates, and then there's Jerec who can't oneshot Kyle.

mmm

FreshestSlice
Jerec, amped by the Valley of the Jedi, can't oneshot Kyle, you mean. That's seriously one of the most pathetic showings in the mythos. Amped by thousands of Jedi and Sith. Can't kill one neophyte, who you let cut you off from the Force. It's legit disgusting.

Zenwolf
It's plot is what it is tbh, there's no reason why Kyle shouldn't have been destroyed.

FreshestSlice
Or, you know, Jerec just isn't that powerful. One of those.

Jmanghan
Regardless, the point is, both of them together tips the scale enough if Jerec is amped by the Valley of the Jedi, its not like Kyle is a slouch, by that point he had already defeated all of Jerec's Dark Jedi, including Sarriss.

FreshestSlice
Which is dumb point because power alone doesn't win duels, not that Jerec really has power comparable to Vader's anyway. Jerec is a weak link, and Yoda takes him out early before moving on to Vader. So while killing a bunch of one offs with no names is impressive, unless they are comparable to Yoda in anyway, or unless you think Vader can beat Yoda, this match is all but certainly in Yoda's favor.

The Ellimist
Yeah, Vader really is nothing next to Yoda. thumb up

FreshestSlice
Is that supposed to be bait? It's kind of lackluster, tbh.

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