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So humans basically dominate the mythos in terms of combative abilities. Who are the best alien combatants in the mythos?

Force sensitive and non-sensitive beings allowed.

No "entities."

No Yoda.

They are animals.

Yoda.

Shimrra.

Grievous.

Valkorion

Kas'im

I wouldn't really say that the humans dominate in combat, as alien species can have innate advantages that put them above humans in many capacities.

Well I mean unless you're just talking martial art prowess, but if adding the innate advantages, a human wouldn't be able to compare anyway.

That said a few that come to mind are Falleen and Noghri.

Yoda, duh
Vitiate
Shimrra
Ragnos?
Grievous?

Ahsoka

Define best

Originally posted by ILS
Define best

Who are the best alien combatants at defeating other skilled warriors in 1v1 scenarios.

I'm basically treating it like a duel. A combination of skill/equipment/force abilities(if force sensitive)/hype in encyclopedic mediums/etc.

Holy shit Maul too

Oh so were going with individuals, not species...k.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Oh so were going with individuals, not species...k.

Yeah my bad, I see what you were thinking.

I guess restrict Yoda also, that one is glaringly obvious.

Yeah forgot about Maul.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Ahsoka Best of her kind tbh. mmm

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Holy shit Maul too

lmao yeah

Kas'im
Sirak

As a pathetic excuse for a human does Bane count?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
As a pathetic excuse for a human does Bane count?

He's human, not an alien Beni. Plus Bane wasn't lacking in physicals.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Best of her kind tbh. mmm

Bella Swan Kiwiks >

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Best of her kind tbh. mmm

Better than Sirak? Nah.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
He's human, not an alien Beni.

kill self

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
kill self

But he is.

For once, I'd like a thread that doesn't derail.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
kill self

Durge

Jar Jar tbfh.

Plus Bane isn't a lacking guy anyway in the physical department.

Darth Plagueis.

Omg lol

1. Yoda
2. Darth Plagueis
3. Vitiate
4. Shimrra
5. Ragnos or Maul

mmm

Lulz Vitiate and Ragnos aren't even aliens.

Originally posted by Trocity
No Yoda.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. Yoda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so&t=0m30s

Controversial suggestion: Soa.

Real answer: Kephis.

Cognus? Tenebrous? Desann? Saba? Nox? Would Unuthul count? Prob not.

The Terror from Beyond >>>

No entities.

Nox also isn't an alien. uhuh

Originally posted by Nephthys
No entities.
Soa's been stated to be an entity too.

All of them are entities...

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Soa's been stated to be an entity too.

Is he? I thought he was just strong as **** and inexplicably enormous for some reason.

Pretty sure Muur is an alien too with his pointy ears.

Muur's an elf, he doesn't count.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Soa's been stated to be an entity too.

Yeah that somehow diminishes the hypocrisy because the brilliant Neph didn't read some random statement.

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Plagueis

Legends Chewbacca

Without Yoda, it's definitely Plagueis unless if there's someone else we're clearly missing. Vitiate would be next.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lulz Vitiate and Ragnos aren't even aliens.

Huh?

Even if Purebloods were aliens, which they aren't you heathen, they'd still be mostly human. Duh.

I'd need a source that Purebloods as of the GHW are "mostly human".

I'm sure they weren't. I mean Vitiate's family wasn't even Force Sensitive, and his mother sleeping with the planet's leading Sith Lord is why she was found out by her husband, but I'm sure they were as pure as can be.

Not that it matters. Sith aren't aliens.

Originally posted by ares834
I'd need a source that Purebloods as of the GHW are "mostly human".

One quest on Korriban has you scan "Pureblood" Sith for this supremacist and it turns out they don't actually have much pure Sith in them.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I'm sure they weren't. I mean Vitiate's family wasn't even Force Sensitive, and his mother sleeping with the planet's leading Sith Lord is why she was found out by her husband, but I'm sure they were as pure as can be.

Not that it matters. Sith aren't aliens.

Not sure why that would imply they weren't pure. Not every sith is force sensitive and the Jedi Exiles were far more powerful than any of the Sith Sorcerers.

And why aren't they aliens? Are we being pedantic here?

Originally posted by Nephthys
One quest on Korriban has you scan "Pureblood" Sith for this supremacist and it turns out they don't actually have much pure Sith in them.

Yes. Centuries later in a different empire... Hence why I clarified the GHW.

Anyway, Ragnos is specifically stated to be a half-breed. But considering he exhibits the traits of a Sith rather than a human I would call label him a Sith.

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure why that would imply they weren't pure. Not every sith is force sensitive and the Jedi Exiles were far more powerful than any of the Sith Sorcerers.

Because pretty much the entire species was? The fact that some aren't doesn't really change that most, and most of there descendants, were.

They aren't aliens because the Sith say they aren't aliens. It's as simple as that.

As to your above post, it's the exact same Empire, and they've only been back in known space for less than a century. I doubt their blood has changed that radically.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because pretty much the entire species was? The fact that some aren't doesn't really change that most, and most of there descendants, were.

Indeed. Most not all.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
They aren't aliens because the Sith say they aren't aliens. It's as simple as that.

And would not this logic apply to every other species?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
As to your above post, it's the exact same Empire, and they've only been back in known space for less than a century. I doubt their blood has changed that radically.

Regardless, Vitiate's empire was composed far more of humans than the original which was composed almost entirely of Sith.

Originally posted by ares834
Indeed. Most not all.

I think if it's nearly everyone, the fact that it isn't exactly everyone, or even this entire family, is kind of a moot point.

It would if those other species had an Empire or the power to determine such things, I guess. But they don't, so it doesn't.

Or it was never meant to be composed entirely of Sith, and only seemed that way from the battlefield.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It would if those other species had an Empire or the power to determine such things, I guess. But they don't, so it doesn't.

Many species do have such civilizations though. Regardless, like I hinted at earlier it's being pedantic though a fair enough point I suppose.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Or it was never meant to be composed entirely of Sith, and only seemed that way from the battlefield.

It isn't composed entirely of Sith. We already know this.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Plagueis

Hmmm...

For a brief period of time before Sidious's ascendancy, the three most powerful beings in galactic history were all aliens - Yoda, Plagueis and Vitiate.

Sheev set things right.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. Yoda
2. Darth Plagueis
3. Vitiate
4. Shimrra
5. Ragnos or Maul

mmm
Vitiate is an entity. He doesn't have a permanent form.

Originally posted by Nephthys
One quest on Korriban has you scan "Pureblood" Sith for this supremacist and it turns out they don't actually have much pure Sith in them.

Actually, he says he questions the purity of some of the academy's instructors and the ones you scan are mostly human, not Purebloods.

Fisto and Maul are impressive, as is Grievous but can you really count him? He's 95% droid and 5% Kaleesh. Sora Bulq is probably comparable to Maul and Fisto too.

Excluding Yoda and Vitiate... and Darths Venamis and Tenebrous:

1. Talzin
2. Darth Plagueis
3. Gethzerion
4. Soa
5. Darth Gean

Honorable Mentions: Jerec, Darth Maul, Shaak Ti, Darth Wyyrlok III

The honorable mentions are alphabetical, mind, and I didn't list Tenebrous' master 'cause they still have yet to be named.

Originally posted by Petrus
Yoda.

Shimrra.

Grievous.

Valkorion

Yeah, this. Also Plagueis, Tenebrous, Gean, Cognus, Maul, Soa, Terror From Beyond and Unu'Thul is technically no longer human so...

UnuThul might look like Freddy Krueger, but he's still human.

Wasn't he imbued with part of the colony ala Lomi Plo? I know she became some freaky insect hybrid because of that; I thought Unu suffered the same fate.

And the TfB is no more a combatant than the Zillo beast.

Originally posted by MythLord
Wasn't he imbued with part of the colony ala Lomi Plo? I know she became some freaky insect hybrid because of that; I thought Unu suffered the same fate. His species is still human, same as her.