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Fallen One
Silver Surfer
Airwalker
Firelord
Terrax
Nova (Frankie Raye)
Morg
Red Shift
Stardust

Vs

Superman
Kyle Rayner
Hal Jordan
John Stewart
Wonder Woman
Orion
Martian Manhunter
Wally West
Captain Atom

1. Standard fight
2. Bloodlusted.

Go!

Superman solos

All DC characters pre Flashpoint versions BTW.

Going by this old chestnut

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=601892&pagenumber=1

I'm giving it to the Heralds in scenario 1. Dont care about scenario 2, thats a little kid fight.

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Superman solos








Nah, Orion solos.

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Superman solos








Imperiex Probe Busting Mode!?

Originally posted by riv6672
Going by this old chestnut

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=601892&pagenumber=1

I'm giving it to the Heralds in scenario 1. Dont care about scenario 2, thats a little kid fight.

Wrong version.

Right pick.

Heralds FTW.

JL wins.

Heralds have a few weak links.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
JL wins.

Heralds have a few weak links. This. JL seems more solidly composed of upper tier characters.

Superman 10/10

Fallen one? Was he the herald who blew up a gas giant?

League in both

Superman solos then beats the JL as well.

Heralds in a nail biter.

Wally West can steal the speed of the heralds and then actually grant that same super speed to the other JLA members. Imagine Batman at FTL speeds.

Shit I see Batman isn't here. Well, imagine all those people on the JLA having FTL speed now.

Red shift, nova, and airwalker are the weak links.

yeah league would take this.

Heralds easily. They boast an array of powers that make the JLA look rudimentary by comparison. There is a reason battle boards all over the web have a herald category and not a superman category. They also have an unlimited power source, all of them.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Heralds easily. They boast an array of powers that make the JLA look rudimentary by comparison. There is a reason battle boards all over the web have a herald category and not a superman category. They also have an unlimited power source, all of them.
Yes, because those on team 1 are always stomping everyone they come across

/sarcasm facepalm2

Originally posted by Cogito
Yes, because those on team 1 are always stomping everyone they come across

/sarcasm facepalm2

Oh yeah, and JLA does, all the time.

To be honest, we've never seen this group of heralds operate together with a single purpose. They would be scary if they did. The Fallen One alone doesn't have a counter. Good luck fighting the universes dark matter.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Heralds easily. They boast an array of powers that make the JLA look rudimentary by comparison. There is a reason battle boards all over the web have a herald category and not a superman category. They also have an unlimited power source, all of them.
You are talking like the battle boards are more important than actual comics.

You don't get to see comments like "he is almost as powerful as a Herald or Silver Surfer."

Herald level is an imaginary tern. Superman level isn't.

The only one being in either team who has unlimited power source is Captain Atom. He has actually destroyed entire universes in Quantum zone.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Oh yeah, and JLA does, all the time.

To be honest, we've never seen this group of heralds operate together with a single purpose. They would be scary if they did. The Fallen One alone doesn't have a counter. Good luck fighting the universes dark matter.
Captain Atom can easily counter anything FO can.

lol why anyone bothers is, utterly, beyond me....

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are talking like the battle boards are more important than actual comics.

You don't get to see comments like "he is almost as powerful as a Herald or Silver Surfer."

Herald level is an imaginary tern. Superman level isn't.

The only one being in either team who has unlimited power source is Captain Atom. He has actually destroyed entire universes in Quantum zone.

You are talking like there's the slightest bit of hope BAV could possibly grasp this.

Lol. Exactly

League easily

1, League
2, League, horribly.

Teamwork is also quite key here. And whilst the PC is quite hax, so is Cap Atom, Kyle, and Orion. Not to mention Wally.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Imperiex Probe Busting Mode!?
Yup
Super goes through them the way a child goes through paper confetti.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are talking like the battle boards are more important than actual comics.

You don't get to see comments like "he is almost as powerful as a Herald or Silver Surfer."

Herald level is an imaginary tern. Superman level isn't.

The only one being in either team who has unlimited power source is Captain Atom. He has actually destroyed entire universes in Quantum zone.

.



Your mind check out a long time ago

Originally posted by Delta1938
You are talking like there's the slightest bit of hope BAV could possibly grasp this.

Grasp that you ****ers are a bunch of mindless D.C. bootlickers? I grasped that years ago. A baby could grasp that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
1, League
2, League, horribly.

Teamwork is also quite key here. And whilst the PC is quite hax, so is Cap Atom, Kyle, and Orion. Not to mention Wally.

**** JLAs teamwork, you all act like they are some disciples walking the earth. They aren't any better than any other team. The Heralds easily out power them. EASILY.

Can you guys be trusted not to ruin every thread you're in? Seriously?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Can you guys be trusted not to ruin every thread you're in? Seriously?



How long are you all going to protect this frail little Chihuahua?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
How long are you all going to protect this frail little Chihuahua?

Who's protecting anyone? I said guys. Literally referring to everyone acting like a prick in the thread.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Who's protecting anyone? I said guys. Literally referring to everyone acting like a prick in the thread.

Yeah, but some members get public floggings while others seem to have attained diplomatic immunity, even when alerts are made on dem good ole boys. Just an observation.

Shut it, BAV.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah, but some members get public floggings while others seem to have attained diplomatic immunity, even when alerts are made on dem good ole boys. Just an observation.

Not even remotely true. At least not in this part of the forum.

Originally posted by Zack M
Shut it, BAV.

Not helping.

Like I said, Wally just speed steals everyone and gives the entire JLA a speed boost. So it's like you're fighting a coked up version of the JLA.

Sorry but BAV point is true.

Giving this to the league but Surfer takes down a bunch of them before falling.

Originally posted by carver9
Giving this to the league but Surfer takes down a bunch of them before falling.

How, if Wally steals his speed?

This is a closer fight than most people realize. I'm going with the League for the majority but it will be a close, bloody fight every single time.

of course it would be close. i don't think the league would sweep, but they'd take a majority imo.

Originally posted by Surtur
How, if Wally steals his speed?

He can try.

Wally's speed steal is limited by the amount of kinetic energy the target packs.

Objects with more momentum will be more difficult to steal speed from.

If Surfer et al are all zipping along at high speeds, he may find it impossible/highly difficult.

If they are standing there, then he can do so easily.

Can he absorb energy from a being who's air borne.?

didn't he steal clark's speed while he was flying? and i've never seen or heard about the speed steal being linked the the kinetic energy a target packs.... jay easily stole adam's speed while he was moving at superspeed. he's even stolen the kinetic energy of...energy, which, obviously, is moving at light speed....

where'd you get that info ds?

@carver: Yes. He did this by looking at him. He also does this ALL the time with bullets. Which are airborne.

But with regards to the airborne-ness:

http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/2532/3333407-3158033-speedstealgirdir.jpg

@leo:

http://i.imgur.com/keC7oq5.jpg

wasn't he stealing the ke of the planet there....? that's a wee bit different from stealing the speed of a single being.... like i said, jay was running with adam and effortlessly took his speed. if wally was running with...whoever, he could do it just as easily methinks, regardless of how fast his opponent was moving. i don't think he'd just stand there and try and steal everyone's speed, though he's done that. he might be better served to share speed with his team in this fight though.

Originally posted by leonidas
wasn't he stealing the ke of the planet there....? that's a wee bit different from stealing the speed of a single being.... like i said, jay was running with adam and effortlessly took his speed. if wally was running with...whoever, he could do it just as easily methinks, regardless of how fast his opponent was moving. i don't think he'd just stand there and try and steal everyone's speed, though he's done that. he might be better served to share speed with his team in this fight though.

Yeah, but he can do it for a single being (Girder) and he can do it for the entire planet (so not only can he do it, but the MAGNITUDE of his speedstealing is there).

And yes. He can share his speed with his team mates:
http://i.imgur.com/qUzRzJE.jpg

I mean, imagine Superman, bloodlusted - and now with Speedforce boosting....

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Grasp that you ****ers are a bunch of mindless D.C. bootlickers? I grasped that years ago. A baby could grasp that.

Why is your sig pic like that?

JL

Originally posted by zopzop
This is a closer fight than most people realize. I'm going with the League for the majority but it will be a close, bloody fight every single time.
What's your match ups?

Matchup schmatchup. JL are a team.

So when I say Surfer uses his speed in fights people tell me no he doesn't, he doesn't have that kind of speed, etc. but now suddenly he's able to fly up in the air before Wally can cross half a mile and speed steal him?

Why wouldn't they be standing still from Wally's point of view?

Don't see how they take FO here,dude detonated a gas giant...
Plus If you want to go to the exotic route, stardust opens a black hole right on the battlefield (he has done this more than once)..

Originally posted by Genii96
Don't see how they take FO here,dude detonated a gas giant...
Plus If you want to go to the exotic route, stardust opens a black hole right on the battlefield (he has done this more than once)..

Meh, rookie GL's were able to open black holes. Not a big deal.

Didn't Kyle contain a supernova? Now he'd have two other experienced GLs backing him up. Gas giant, meh. Especially if all the heralds are contained for that split second in the same construct.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Didn't Kyle contain a supernova? Now he'd have two other experienced GLs backing him up. Gas giant, meh. Especially if all the heralds are contained for that split second in the same construct.
Not the same BH though,however I don't know much about kyle,so is that a high end feat for him?
Plus how does SS work? He aborbs your KE right?
Btw which morg is this?

Originally posted by Genii96
Not the same BH though,however I don't know much about kyle,so is that a high end feat for him?


No, that's his regular feats. He has absorbed quantum black holes which was destroying the sun.

High end Kyle reverses universal reality manipulation. No Herald can match him for space cheese feats. Not even your dear Surfer.

Normal Morg.

Originally posted by Genii96
Don't see how they take FO here,dude detonated a gas giant...
Plus If you want to go to the exotic route, stardust opens a black hole right on the battlefield (he has done this more than once)..

Both Superman and GLs have better feats than that. Hell, auto protect has had GLs survive supernovas and black holes.

Originally posted by Genii96
Don't see how they take FO here,dude detonated a gas giant...
Plus If you want to go to the exotic route, stardust opens a black hole right on the battlefield (he has done this more than once)..

How can he detonate a gas giant or anything like that after having all his speed taken away?