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Surfer is sent in place of Green Lanterns to perform these tasks:

1. Keep CSA locked in for 48 hours
2. Recreate Heaven's ladder
3. Trigger Solaris into a supernova and contain him
4. Defeat Parallax
5. Defeat Oblivion (Kyle's construct)
6. Defeat Krona with emotional entities
7. Contain Imperiex

How far can he go?

Stops at 2.

1 or 2 most likely.

I'm sure there is context to a lot of those showings.

What is a "heavens ladder" ?

...It's a Ladder to Heaven, you 'tard.

So I guess he does stop at 2 since he can't create a gateway to heaven or..whatever.

On a serious note, Heaven's Ladder was a massive 'vessel' created by the hyper-powerful Quantum Mechanics. This vessel was stated to contain hundreds of planets as part of its infrastructure:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965307_4288208.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965316_920151.jpg


One of the many planets Heaven's Ladder had incorporated was the 5D homeworld of Zrfff:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965285_1698766.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965297_8533370.jpg


Anywho, when the vessel began unraveling toward the end of the book, Kyle single-handedly held it all together with a construct:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965317_897916.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965320_4985013.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965321_3677960.jpg


It is a ridiculously impressive feat.... As are most of those mentioned here. Some of the shit Kyle pulled off back in the day was haxx as f*ck.

As for the first feat mentioned in the OP: not only did Kyle contain the CSA in an "impenetrable" construct for 48 hours(which is massively impressive in its own right), but that construct also encompassed the entire f*cking moon:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965331_JLA_-_Earth_2-041.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965332_JLA_-_Earth_2-042.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965337_JLA_-_Earth_2-048.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965344_JLA_-_Earth_2-049.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
I'm sure there is context to a lot of those showings.

Like?

^ Being a character that makes constructs

Nobody can argue for Surfer here and Abhil knows that

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ Being a character that makes constructs

Nobody can argue for Surfer here and Abhil knows that




Anyways... The heaven's ladder one I always saw as Kyle(with some Atom's direction) along with the Quantum mechanics rebuilt the damaged portions of the construct... Crazy feat though.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ Being a character that makes constructs

Nobody can argue for Surfer here and Abhil knows that
Hal didn't use a construct to beat Krona.

vin

He did.

It was in the shape of Johns peen.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ Being a character that makes constructs

Nobody can argue for Surfer here and Abhil knows that

Maybe he means Keeper?

Originally posted by Galan007
On a serious note, Heaven's Ladder was a massive 'vessel' created by the hyper-powerful Quantum Mechanics. This vessel was stated to contain hundreds of planets as part of its infrastructure:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965307_4288208.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965316_920151.jpg


One of the many planets Heaven's Ladder had incorporated was the 5D homeworld of Zrfff:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965285_1698766.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965297_8533370.jpg


Anywho, when the vessel began unraveling toward the end of the book, Kyle single-handedly held it all together with a construct:
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965317_897916.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965320_4985013.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/27965321_3677960.jpg


It is a ridiculously impressive feat.... As are most of those mentioned here. Some of the shit Kyle pulled off back in the day was haxx as f*ck.

Would you say the Quantum Mechanics are on the level of the Beyonders?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal didn't use a construct to beat Krona.

vin

Didn't Kyle contain the Big Bang? If so, you should have included that on your list.

Silver surfer the "top" herald has no hope vs Gl's. He is just a myth.

Stops at 1

Originally posted by Galan007
...It's a Ladder to Heaven, you 'tard.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Silver surfer the "top" herald has no hope vs Gl's. He is just a myth.

Stops at 1 You could put Superman in there and he'd fail at relicating those particular GL feats also

Matter of fact, replace GL with Anti-monitor and argue he could do everything

Originally posted by Zack M
Didn't Kyle contain the Big Bang? If so, you should have included that on your list.

He was amped when he did that.

I made a more fair version of this type of thing, twice actually

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=518296

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=566846

Originally posted by carver9
He was amped when he did that.

Ion or a special ring?

Originally posted by Zack M
Ion or a special ring?

Carverforce.

Originally posted by Zack M
Would you say the Quantum Mechanics are on the level of the Beyonders? In this day and age I'd probably put them around the level of the Monitors, tbh... /shrug

Originally posted by carver9
He was amped when he did that. Scans?

GL's were tailor made to handle those particular situations. The Surfer really isn't. Not really fair from where I'm sitting. I mean, could Captain Atom do those things? Superman? Wonder Woman? Firestorm? Black Adam?

Originally posted by Galan007
In this day and age I'd probably put them around the level of the Monitors, tbh... /shrug

Scans?

Beyonders or the QM? It's hard to peg the Monitors because at times they are uber. Like Celestial uber and other times they are not.

Originally posted by Stoic
GL's were tailor made to handle those particular situations. The Surfer really isn't. Not really fair from where I'm sitting. I mean, could Captain Atom do those things? Superman? Wonder Woman? Firestorm? Black Adam? Of course Firestorm could do it... But tbf, there isn't much he can't do.



...vin

Originally posted by Zack M
Beyonders or the QM? It's hard to peg the Monitors because at times they are uber. Like Celestial uber and other times they are not. The Mechanics. I'd put them around the level of Morrison's Monitors... "Morritors".

Heh, I just invented a new word.

Originally posted by Galan007
Of course Firestorm could do it... But tbf, there isn't much he can't do.



...vin

The Mechanics. I'd put them around the level of Morrison's Monitors... "Morritors".

Heh, I just invented a new word.



And where would you rank Morritors amongst the cosmic races? Celestial level or above?

Originally posted by Zack M


And where would you rank Morritors amongst the cosmic races? Celestial level or above? Only a few Morritors have feats to speak of: Dax Novu(Mandrakk I), Rox Ogama(Mandrakk II), and Nix Uotan(Superjudge).

So if we're using them as our measuring stick, the Morritors are certainly near the absolute upper-echelon of comic book power, imo... And that's excluding their asininely haxx hypertech, which is nigh-incomprehensible in its own right.


All things considered, I might even put them beyond the Mechanics. If nothing else their scope/level/status was depicted much clearer, imo. /shrug

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I made a more fair version of this type of thing, twice actually

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=518296

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=566846
Stop your bleeding.

Funny how Silver Surfer could not replicate a lot of GL feats .

But on the other hand GL could replicate almost all the feats of the SS

Hell both Kyle and Hal beat Krona and Parallax by straight up energy blasts. Which is supposed to be Surfer's specialty.

Salty marvel fanboys are going to be salty.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
You could put Superman in there and he'd fail at relicating those particular GL feats also

Matter of fact, replace GL with Anti-monitor and argue he could do everything
Superman isn't an energy manipulator.

I heard Surfer is more powerful than Lanterns because of energy blasts. He shouldn't have any problem beating Krona then, right?

Or Oblivion. Or Parallax.

That's your point to prove which is the purpose of your particular feats for Surfer to replicate. You don't have to be a Marvel fanboy or hate you etc to see that. You have to realize that you're the one making the argument impossible to have

Again: put Anti-monitor in his place and make the arguments he could do them

Originally posted by Galan007
In this day and age I'd probably put them around the level of the Monitors, tbh... /shrug

Scans?

Didn't he have possession of Ion during the Imperiex Saga.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That's your point to prove which is the purpose of your particular feats for Surfer to replicate. You don't have to be a Marvel fanboy or hate you etc to see that. You have to realize that you're the one making the argument impossible to have

Again: put Anti-monitor in his place and make the arguments he could do them
What's so hard for Surfer to blast really hard? Isn't that his speciality?

Anti Monitor without ALE punked entire GL corps.

Just stick with constructs and the like. Can anti-monitor do them?

"Krona buster" is even something a good number of people can't even believe GL could have done even if you use only his best showings even, I'm not about to argue that Surfer can and nobody would either

Your booty must be throbbing hard. Surfer >>> Superman >>> GL, get over it. It's patently stupid for you to set up a bunch of feats completed in DCU and ask whether a character from another universe could accomplish those tasks.

Originally posted by carver9
Didn't he have possession of Ion during the Imperiex Saga.

I don't think so, but I think Kyle did have a special ring.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Your booty must be throbbing hard. Surfer >>> Superman >>> GL, get over it. It's patently stupid for you to set up a bunch of feats completed in DCU and ask whether a character from another universe could accomplish those tasks. Stop

Thread seems like a setup for Surfer.

Same thread can be made with Surfers best feats and see if GL can duplicate them.

Fail, butthurt thread.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Just stick with constructs and the like. Can anti-monitor do them?

"Krona buster" is even something a good number of people can't even believe GL could have done even if you use only his best showings even, I'm not about to argue that Surfer can and nobody would either
So you're basically saying Surfer can't do any of these. Good to know.

Originally posted by Facee
Thread seems like a setup for Surfer.

Same thread can be made with Surfers best feats and see if GL can duplicate them.

Fail, butthurt thread.
Sure, go ahead.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ Being a character that makes constructs

Nobody can argue for Surfer here and Abhil knows that

Surfer can manipulate energy and make force fields, correct?

Originally posted by Facee
Thread seems like a setup for Surfer.

Same thread can be made with Surfers best feats and see if GL can duplicate them.

Fail, butthurt thread.


So this ^^^

Abby only starts these sorts of one sided threads with a predetermined outcome and only when he's butt hurt from a previous thread. So freaking transparent.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure, go ahead.

Why would I ? I don't see this as a vs. thread...And I'm not butthurt about either character...

But since you like citing crossovers, here you go
http://turboimage.info/up/33c4cbf5f9544f398c22a7862ef50e52.png

Also, why don't you just make a GL vs. Surfer thread and see where it goes from there ?

Originally posted by Facee
Why would I ? I don't see this as a vs. thread...And I'm not butthurt about either character...

But since you like citing crossovers, here you go
http://turboimage.info/up/33c4cbf5f9544f398c22a7862ef50e52.png

Then stop whining.

Yes, Surfer can beat a rookie GL. Shocking I say, absolutely shocking.



What's your point?

This is a ridiculous bait thread as obviously the specifics of these feats are different than what SS can pull off. One could easily flip this around and ask a GL to pull off feats that the Surfer has that are outside of a ring's powerset.

However, the basic premise is sound. Surfer has decades of feats under his belt - and since I'm not an expert on all of them, I'd be curious what high-end feats Surfer fans consider to be comparable displays of power to the one's Abhi mentioned.

Specifically:
Originally posted by abhilegend
1. Keep CSA locked in for 48 hours
2. Recreate Heaven's ladder
3. Trigger Solaris into a supernova and contain him
6. Defeat Krona with emotional entities
7. Contain Imperiex

Originally posted by Facee
Why would I ? I don't see this as a vs. thread...And I'm not butthurt about either character...

But since you like citing crossovers, here you go
http://turboimage.info/up/33c4cbf5f9544f398c22a7862ef50e52.png

Also, why don't you just make a GL vs. Surfer thread and see where it goes from there ?

Because he knows the predetermined outcome and he can't handle the truth. This is Abby Whinehouse.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Because he knows the predetermined outcome and he can't handle the truth. This is Abby Whinehouse.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
So this ^^^

Abby only starts these sorts of one sided threads with a predetermined outcome and only when he's butt hurt from a previous thread. So freaking transparent.