Originally posted by "Id"
Recectly Shaka showed he can manipulate time, and traveled 250 years into the past. Its a little better than Whis, well ALOT better than Whis. But the point is Whis can not leverage time-phuckery in their favor.
ALSO! Recently Shaka showed a new ability "Agyo"which harneses the power of creation which gave birth to the univserse. In his clash agiant Shijima, endless amounts of universes and life forms where created and destroyed. So NO, Beerus is not the only one that swings univese wrecking powers.
Speed. Well traveling speed, the Gold Saint traveled through BILLIONS of galaxies in the matter of minutes. In battle Gold Saints exceeded the Speed of the big bang, at the rate of expansion. That shatters the speed advantage you think DBS have over Saint Seiya.
I cant see Beerus or Whis hand out a one sided beating with what youve said so far.
I'll admit, it's been a long time since I've read or seen any content related to Saint Seiya. But it sounds like you're probably wanking a bit, so please, by all means, feel free to post scans of these feats.
I wanna see the context for that time feat. Technically, Trunks travelled 20 years in the past, and he's nowhere near Whiss level. Either way, context is key here.
I doubt the attack is as powerful as you say, but that's only because I can't find it anywhere. Go ahead and post scans.
When did the Gold Saints travel through billions of galaxies in minutes? IIRC, the only time they did anything like that was through teleportation, which isn't that impressive considering Goku does the same thing on a regular basis, and Whiss would still one-shot him. Plus, there is no concrete proof that the big bang expanded at faster than light speed, and in fact, most evidence points to it following the law of relativity, as does all matter. So that's not really a concrete speed feat, and it's still not as impressive as Goku moving faster than literal time itself.
Well, considering Beerus and Whiss are both faster than Goku, who is faster than time itself, they still have a hefty speed advantage over Saga and Shaka. The only way they could possibly win is if their DC's have increased marginally since I read. Which I doubt, but am still interested to see the scans.