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1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

Team 10/10
Team 8-9/10
Team 9/10

Vader takes force and all out

Not sure about Sabers, Satele isn't or probably hasn't improved since Fatal Alliance and Malgus already is close enough to Vader to pose a challenge. If he can exploit the fact Satele is crap and that the two would have terribly synergy, then he can probably win a few rounds.

Team.
Team.
Team.

Team.

Vader. Team has been officially shit since SoR.

Or Revan's been officially better than Vader. mmm

Wait, he was since 2003, nevermind.

Revan could be the single most powerful non-Ones character in the mythos, and that wouldn't make up for how shittly Satele performed in SoR or Malgus against the protags(assuming they all went in the first place).

Shan being ragdolled by Revan, a clear superior to Vader, doesn't seem much of an issue to me. mmm

And Malgus performing classy, but ultimately losing, to the four Republic or Imperial protagonists is pretty good.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Shan being ragdolled by Revan, a clear superior to Vader, doesn't seem much of an issue to me. mmm

Shan, and 7 other people being TK'd, followed by being held up in the air, while Revan forms a bubble around himself and then uses Force Destruction is not really a point in Shan's favor. Like at all.

Yeah, if he actually performed classy or killed anyone, that would be pretty good. Too bad he got his shit stomped in by a team HK can do the same to. I mean unless you're ready to admit these fights shouldn't be taken seriously on gameplay merit alone. I doubt it, but I'm willing to give the chance.

Vader. Vader. Vader. Vader was said to be eight tenths the power of Sidious, he would take these goons

Vader, assuming he abuses his power.

The Strike Team

mmm

Is this a joke lmfao

Team murders every round, I don't think explanations are actually needed, but if you want I can write some short analysis...

Do it .

Agreed. Vader getting stalemated by old Ben doesn't compare.

The problem is, Bart, that it also 'took' the whole Empire/Republic Strike Team to take out HK. That Malgus feat shouldn't be taken at face-value.


Wait, or are you trolling? mmm

It also "took" Luke Skywalker to defeat Lomi Plo. Lomi 4 Sidious tier??? HK was abusing stealth, was heavily modified with improvements and had reinforcements as I recall. Doesn't stop the fact that Malgus performed extremely well against them, dominating with the Force several times.

LAL.
Vader sweeps these losers.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It also "took" Luke Skywalker to defeat Lomi Plo. Lomi 4 Sidious tier??? HK was abusing stealth, was heavily modified with improvements and had reinforcements as I recall. Doesn't stop the fact that Malgus performed extremely well against them, dominating with the Force several times.

Yeah, but it isn't the only example. It also takes the whole ST to take out a trooper or a single, random Jedi Master/Sith Lord, and it also takes the whole ST to take out other opponents who logically should not be superior/above each of the ST members individually. Flashpoint feats shouldn't be taken at face-value, unless you're willing to say Random Jedi Master 1 from the Kuati Yards FP/Random Boss Trooper > each ST member individually. It's video game entertainment more than anything.

That's precisely why I decided to claim Malgus is equal/slightly superior to just one of them.

If he was beneath one of them, I'm sure he wouldn't be a fugging flashpoint final boss.

He might be equal/slightly superior to one of them, I agree.

But then do you think Random Boss Tr00per from Kuati Yards is not beneath the Hot/Nox?

Unlike normal flashpoints, Kuat isn't a part of any specific plot of TOR, it was never set to fit a specific team and was specifically said to be completely random, etc. while flashpoints from time of The False Emperor were full, regular flashpoints within strict rules.

"Random boss trooper" from a standard, legitimate, classical flashpoint? Sure thing. TOR goes out of its way to point us towards their idea that non-Sensitive guy can reach the danger-tier of very powerful Jedi and Sith. Just look at Champion of the Great Hunt (the BH) vs. Jun Seros, etc.

Also it's not like being wildly outmatched means you can't put up a decent fight if you're good enough and your opponents just fought a thousand dudes to get to you.

So let me get this straight.

Basically every single legitimate FP Boss would be a good match for protags such as Hot/Nox?

If he has unavoidable game mechanics demonstrating moments of obvious strain and advantage, like when Malgus chokes out three of them, or when Revan starts dumping meteors and you have to run for your life... yes, he would be.

^ That is true.

Originally posted by Petrus
So let me get this straight.

Basically every single legitimate FP Boss would be a good match for protags such as Hot/Nox?

Depends on what you mean by good match. Take Cad Bane vs Obi-Wan and Quinlan Vos. In a forum fight, we'd obviously say Bane would get stomped there. But in the cartoon he's able to represent a "Boss" type battle and do pretty well before fleeing.

Taking game mechanics seriously are ok for Revan, but when you apply it to Marek or Malgus itz BULLSHIT EXAGGERATED fwef0ewfwehr

Double standard If I've ever seen one

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Bart and Neph agreed that Malgus' FP feats are as valid as Revan's...

Carth. I'm liking you more and more.