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Composite versions of both characters, Kenobi is somehow inexplicably simply being himself while also emptying himself of himself even though that makes no sense, and Ventress's lips are as full as ever.

1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All-Out

Ventress solidly

Can she actually break his defense?

Meh, DD Ventress is shit. Prime Legends is another story.

DD Ventress is an equivalent to TCW Kenobi, not sure how that extends to ANH Ben who is close enough to Vader in skill.

Ventress can't really bring the same offense against Kenobi, so its possible he could take sabers.

Kenobi sweeps.

Ventress sweeps.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Ventress sweeps

the floor when Kenobi mind rapes her and makes her do it.

Yes. Because Kenobi has shown the ability to mindrape far more formidable opponents without aid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Jn_Sq8pvY

Yes. Because Ventress swept anyone at or beyond Luminara level.

She did to Grievous who matched Maul on the same planet if you adhere to nexus thinking and if not the comparison is still valid either way further supported by Ventress doing fine against Maul even without her extra dual blade.

#GetFugged

Says the guy who constantly claims Grievous improved during the CW. Fisto stomped Grievous before Ventress without an amp. So that's still not Luminara level.

Ventress sucks, the sooner you except the truth the sooner you can kill yourself.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Says the guy who constantly claims Grievous improved during the CW. Fisto stomped Grievous before Ventress without an amp. So that's still not Luminara level.

Ventress sucks, the sooner you except the truth the sooner you can kill yourself.

Maul's fight with Grievous occurs less then a few months after his fight with Ventress. I doubt he would have improved to the point to make a comparison between the two invalid in that amount of time.

Fisto had a form advantages and Grievous had been injured beforehand.

Fisto accomplishing what he accomplished is a skill feat for him. It doesn't take away Grievous's accomplishments by that point.

He also struggled with Depa after that with no amp. Let's not pretend canon Grievous is anything more than a feat device for other characters.

Ventress still sucks

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
He also struggled with Depa after that with no amp. Let's not pretend canon Grievous is anything more than a feat device for other characters.

Ventress still sucks

You can pretend whatever you want. I'll take him as a character who is a good benchmark to base the capabilities of other characters off of including Depa.

I'll be waiting if you change your mind.

Force: Kenobi
Sabers: Ventress
All-Out: Kenobi 6-7/10

An obviously very accurate statement from the creator responsible for bringing us TCW Grievous.

*Nods head*

( That was sarcasm if you couldn't tell. )

Filoni took every chance he got to lowball Grievous and make him less formidable a legacy that is only now being slowly repaired by other dedicated canon authors.

So apparently Mace couldn't get past his fears of Grievous's spinning blades if we're going by Filoni's statement which you apparently want us to do.

That fight was't written by Filoni. Ventress fight was. Are you a ****ing retard or a 10/10 fuggot?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
That fight was't written by Filoni. Ventress fight was. Are you a ****ing retard or a 10/10 fuggot?

So what? You're trying to say that Grievous can't beat anybody who's not afraid of his spinning blades based off Filoni's statements and I'm pointing out a feat from Legends where that sort of logic makes no sense. Unlike you I don't view canon and Legends Grievous as separate when using him in composite threads like these.

So you are a retard. Thanks for the clarification.

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I'm inclined to give Obi-Wan the win in all rounds here. For Force, improving since RotS puts him above Ventress.

Sabers - well, they technically know each other's form, though if we're talking about form knowledge, Ventress may well have the advantage since Obi-Wan is still using the same form (just watered down). So that means that Ventress has the advantage of knowledge relating to her opponent's form being fresh in her mind whilst its been about two decades since Ben's had to face Makashi, specifically Ventress'.

Still, Ben's performance against Vader comes off as a bit beyond Ventress' paygrade. He wins sabers as well, and therefore takes all-out.

He hasn't improved though. And even if he did that power would have to be put to making up for his weakened physical state.

Why is it above Ventress's paygrade iyo? Old Ben held Vader off. Ventress did the same with both Obi Wan and Anakin and defeated Grievous on Dathomir.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I'm inclined to give Obi-Wan the win in all rounds here. For Force, improving since RotS puts him above Ventress.

Sabers - well, they technically know each other's form, though if we're talking about form knowledge, Ventress may well have the advantage since Obi-Wan is still using the same form (just watered down). So that means that Ventress has the advantage of knowledge relating to her opponent's form being fresh in her mind whilst its been about two decades since Ben's had to face Makashi, specifically Ventress'.

Still, Ben's performance against Vader comes off as a bit beyond Ventress' paygrade. He wins sabers as well, and therefore takes all-out.