Punisher (Warzone) vs. MCU Jessica Jones

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carthage
H2H only

Who wins?

KingD19
The one who can hold up a car with one hand and fight a serious Luke Cage without dying immediately.

FrothByte
Right now, I'd take any trained MCU fighter over Jessica Jones in a fight.

TheVaultDweller
When you say "trained" fighter, what exactly do you mean? Level of training can vary greatly. Tony Stark clearly has a degree of H2H training, but someone like MCU Punisher would beat the utter hell out of him in a fist fight.

wakkawakkawakka
Well yeah but Stark isn't really the go-to guy when H2h is considered. Also while Jessica Jones is stronger than the average joe and has a low-tier healing factor, she can be hurt just like any other person. Also didn't Warzone punisher cave someone's face in? Figure as long as he doesn't take a square hit from Jessica he should be fine

KingD19
Jones won't be piss drunk or holding back because she thinks he's under Killgraves control and she doesn't want to hurt him.

Also the face punch feat was helped by the fact that all that guy did is snort coke.

And going by her non PIS fights with Cage, she can take more punishment than Frank can dish out.

FrothByte
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
When you say "trained" fighter, what exactly do you mean? Level of training can vary greatly. Tony Stark clearly has a degree of H2H training, but someone like MCU Punisher would beat the utter hell out of him in a fist fight.

Good point. Let me rephrase. Any upper-tier h2h fighter in the MCU can probably beat Jessica Jones in a h2h fight.

FrothByte
Originally posted by KingD19
Jones won't be piss drunk or holding back because she thinks he's under Killgraves control and she doesn't want to hurt him.

Also the face punch feat was helped by the fact that all that guy did is snort coke.

And going by her non PIS fights with Cage, she can take more punishment than Frank can dish out.

She also got beat up by 3-4 security guys who Frank could probably have steamrolled through.

Luke Cage also doesn't have the same skill that Frank has.

JJ also got knocked out by a tiny woman hitting her on the head by a 2x4.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by FrothByte
Good point. Let me rephrase. Any upper-tier h2h fighter in the MCU can probably beat Jessica Jones in a h2h fight.

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KingD19
Originally posted by FrothByte
She also got beat up by 3-4 security guys who Frank could probably have steamrolled through.

Luke Cage also doesn't have the same skill that Frank has.

JJ also got knocked out by a tiny woman hitting her on the head by a 2x4.

Those instances are PIS and we all know it. Whenever someone worked for Killgrave or he was in the room, Jones got the pis special so he could get away.

wakkawakkawakka
Originally posted by KingD19
Jones won't be piss drunk or holding back because she thinks he's under Killgraves control and she doesn't want to hurt him.

Also the face punch feat was helped by the fact that all that guy did is snort coke.

And going by her non PIS fights with Cage, she can take more punishment than Frank can dish out.
Idk, from what I've gathered from Jessica, while she has stuff like blocking a punch from Luke and walking off getting hit by a truck she can still be damaged like anyone else.

She could probably beat Frank with one clean hit but the odd of her getting one are a bit against her.

FrothByte
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Cap big grin T'Challa big grin

Well, yes, them too. But I was thinking lower, like DD, Punisher, Ward, May, Hawkeye, BW, Rumlow, etc.

FrothByte
Originally posted by KingD19
Those instances are PIS and we all know it. Whenever someone worked for Killgrave or he was in the room, Jones got the pis special so he could get away.

She also easily cut her hand by simply handling glass shards. You can call them PIS, but her scenes depicting average durability outnumber her scenes showcasing enhanced durability.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, yes, them too. But I was thinking lower, like DD, Punisher, Ward, May, Hawkeye, BW, Rumlow, etc.


some of them could , yes

cdtm
Jones. Castle may have the skill, but he needs to get close, and doesn't have Steve Rogers shield or agility to avoid taking a hit/grabbed.

All she needs to do is hit him through his guard.

FrothByte
Originally posted by cdtm
Jones. Castle may have the skill, but he needs to get close, and doesn't have Steve Rogers shield or agility to avoid taking a hit/grabbed.

All she needs to do is hit him through his guard.

I don't recall JJ one-shotting anyone who was actually trying to find her. Maybe the drunks in the bar? But she sure wasn't one shotting the security guards who didn't seem to get seriously injured with her hits.

KingD19
She was holding back as she assumed the guards were under Killgrave's control. We see how a simple full jab can send a fully grown woman flying and kill her with a single hit.

I point this out, and people seem to ignore it. They shoehorned Jones throughout the show. It's PIS/CIS and it's obvious. Whenever Jones is fighting people around Killgrave, her powers dwindle and dumb shit happens so he can get away for the next episode. Because let's be honest, no way that ginger b*tch with the 2x4 knocks her out when while heavily injured, she lasted quite a while and scrapped with Nuke around the apartment. Or when also completely healthy, she took an extended fight/beating from Cage. Luke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ginger w/2x4 and nothing he did put her down for more than a few seconds at a time. The 2x4 thing is blatant PIS as Kilgrave is right there and he needed a way to escape.

No way those security guards would have lasted if she was actually trying to hurt them.

Etc...

You can say the average durability outweighs the super durability, but by saying that you're outright ignoring just how tough/strong she's shown to be.

If you see a guy get cracked upside the head with a metal baseball bat, and he's just fine. Then you see the same guy get knocked over by a punch from a 95lb woman...which is more reasonable to assume is PIS?


Also she casually held up a car with one hand. If she hits Castle hard, he's not gonna be well.

FrothByte
Originally posted by KingD19
She was holding back as she assumed the guards were under Killgrave's control. We see how a simple full jab can send a fully grown woman flying and kill her with a single hit.

I point this out, and people seem to ignore it. They shoehorned Jones throughout the show. It's PIS/CIS and it's obvious. Whenever Jones is fighting people around Killgrave, her powers dwindle and dumb shit happens so he can get away for the next episode. Because let's be honest, no way that ginger b*tch with the 2x4 knocks her out when while heavily injured, she lasted quite a while and scrapped with Nuke around the apartment. Or when also completely healthy, she took an extended fight/beating from Cage. Luke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ginger w/2x4 and nothing he did put her down for more than a few seconds at a time. The 2x4 thing is blatant PIS as Kilgrave is right there and he needed a way to escape.

No way those security guards would have lasted if she was actually trying to hurt them.

Etc...

You can say the average durability outweighs the super durability, but by saying that you're outright ignoring just how tough/strong she's shown to be.

If you see a guy get cracked upside the head with a metal baseball bat, and he's just fine. Then you see the same guy get knocked over by a punch from a 95lb woman...which is more reasonable to assume is PIS?


Also she casually held up a car with one hand. If she hits Castle hard, he's not gonna be well.

Just because I hit the bullseye once out of 5 shots doesn't mean I can hit the bullseye whenever I take out PIS or CIS. You're ignoring JJ's regular showings and focusing on 1 or 2 showings.

It still doesn't change the fact that:

1. She's never one-shotted anyone trying to fight her
2. She's been hurt multiple times by things that would hurt normal human beings

Impediment
Jones.

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