TPM Darth Sidious and Darth Plagueis vs Novel Vitiate and Darth Nihilus

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Deronn_solo
Fight takes place on a life-less moon; no prep, all combatants in characters with standard gear. The Sith start 10 meters away from each other.

Force
Sabers
All-Out

The Ellimist
Team 1 in a legendary curbstomp.

MythLord
Team 2.
Team 1.
Either way.

Deronn_solo
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Team 1 in a legendary curbstomp.
Reasons?

Syndicate
Team 2.
Team 1.
Team 1.

Deronn_solo
Originally posted by Syndicate
Team 2.
Team 1.
Team 1.
What's your reasoning, you stupid mother****er?
smile

The Ellimist
Even if you think novel Vitiate is comparable to them in raw power, his fight against the trio suggests that he lacks the competence and reflexes to compete, especially against their melee abilities. Nihilus is in over his head.

MythLord
Nah bae, Syndicate isn't stupid. Just extremely thick headed.

AncientPower
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Team 1 in a legendary curbstomp.

I sincerely hope you are only referring to lightsaber combat, nobody is stomping anybody else here in terms of Force.

Syndicate
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
What's your reasoning, you stupid mother****er?
smile

Not going to ask your boyfriend that?

JKBart
1) Vitiate and Nihilus, obviously.

2) Vitiate can compete with Plagueis; he has no skill and training, but his reflexes, stamina and perception should be utterly beyond him, although Vitiate doesn't hold such an edge he can win just via reactions, he's an utter amateur compared to Plagueis, who isn't that much beneath Vitiate as far as physical amplification goes; Vitiate's power shines much more in direct Force channeling rather than sensory amplification. Still, Vitiate can at least contend thanks to his talent, but would be beaten everytime in short order. At the same time, Sidious butchers Nihilus before Plagueis even starts dropping Vitiate. Absolute slaughter for team 1.

3) Again, Vitiate and Nihilus decisively.

Deronn_solo
Originally posted by Syndicate
Not going to ask your boyfriend that?
No, that's what after sex talk is for.

Syndicate
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
No, that's what after sex talk is for.

Feats.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by AncientPower
I sincerely hope you are only referring to lightsaber combat, nobody is stomping anybody else here in terms of Force.

I suppose it depends on whether you take Meetra's opinion on Revan > Nihilus seriously. If you don't then team 1 wins with modest difficulty in the Force, but decisively wins all-out. Otherwise yeah they stomp.

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by JKBart
1) Vitiate and Nihilus, obviously.

2) Vitiate can compete with Plagueis; he has no skill and training, but his reflexes, stamina and perception should be utterly beyond him, although Vitiate doesn't hold such an edge he can win just via reactions, he's an utter amateur compared to Plagueis, who isn't that much beneath Vitiate as far as physical amplification goes; Vitiate's power shines much more in direct Force channeling rather than sensory amplification. Still, Vitiate can at least contend thanks to his talent, but would be beaten everytime in short order. At the same time, Sidious butchers Nihilus before Plagueis even starts dropping Vitiate. Absolute slaughter for team 1.

3) Again, Vitiate and Nihilus decisively.

Disgusting.

JKBart
Awaiting your counter-arguments then smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nihilus is in over his head.

AncientPower
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I suppose it depends on whether you take Meetra's opinion on Revan > Nihilus seriously. If you don't then team 1 wins with modest difficulty in the Force, but decisively wins all-out. Otherwise yeah they stomp.

She claimed Revan's command of the Force was greater than that of anybody else she had ever met. Considering she slso believed that Nihilus' power was impossible, that it was astonishing that anybody could have that power and furthermore that Nihilus' power controls him, not the other way around. Not really, no.

I don't take that seriously at all, as she wouldn't consider Nihilus' Katarr feat so unbelievable if Mando Wars Revan was actually more powerful than him anyway.

Tearing out a fleet of capital ships from a gravity well, capability to destroy massive space stations, and destroying the surfaces of multiple planets. Is all far beyond anything Revan has ever done.

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