Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker vs. Darth Sidious (RotS)

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The Ellimist
"Zone" Anakin if there's a difference
RotJ Vader

RotS Sidious

Legends canon

1. Sabers
2. All-out

Starting distance 10 meters

relentless1
Sidious in both

The Ellimist
Anakin can crush Dooku in like fifteen seconds, but he and Vader together can't outduel Sidious?

Kurk
The duo could over-power RotS Sidious in sabers though I wouldn't bet money on it.

Sheev takes round 2.

Nai
Anakin in "the Zone" just decides to win battles and wins them, making any advantage of his opponent (force mastery, duelling skill, experience) a non-issue. This is how he defeated Dooku. So, essentially, he could solo this.

Rebel95
Team

NewGuy01
No limits fallacy, tbh.

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by Nai
Anakin in "the Zone" just decides to win battles and wins them, making any advantage of his opponent (force mastery, duelling skill, experience) a non-issue. This is how he defeated Dooku. So, essentially, he could solo this.

Although there is some truth to that, this is Sidious not Dooku. Dooku appeared to have an apparent weakness to strength based attacks, whereas Sidious does not. The harder Anakin hits the more frustrated he gets and leaves openings Sheev can exploit. It would effectively be the Bloodlusted Maul vs Sidious fight all over again with force attacks chained in. Suited Vader has a massive strength advantage over Palpatine but it matters little. Savage Opress who is no slouch in the strength department, charged head on at the Sith Lord and connected with his stomach which seemed to have no effect (Keep in mind these were the horns that impaled Adi Gallia). Palpatine has also taken a kick to chest from Maul's metal legs and still looked in reasonable knick, so Vader's strength matters little if anything at all. Vader mostly engaged mid tier Jedi knights with the occasional master thrown in and when he faced a mid to top tier opponent in Galen Marek, he lost. Not to mention his obvious weakness to force lighting whom his opponent, along with Bane, have lightning capable of charring skin and completely disfiguring individuals.
Sidious CURBSTOMPS he is both a tier above in Force and sabers IMO

The Ellimist
^ this is a laser focused Anakin, not one that will get frustrated and leave openings as you suggest.

relentless1
Originally posted by The Ellimist
^ this is a laser focused Anakin, not one that will get frustrated and leave openings as you suggest.

if Dooku could dun moch Anakin easily then so could Sidious

The Ellimist
Yeah but that was before Zone Anakin.

chingchangwalla
Anakin can sometimes get a bit sloppy though...

relentless1
overtime Anakin has fought he's been overcome by his emotions; it just so happens that it was a boost for him once in his last fight with Dooku...Sidious would slaughter him

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by relentless1
overtime Anakin has fought he's been overcome by his emotions; it just so happens that it was a boost for him once in his last fight with Dooku...Sidious would slaughter him

Amen.

relentless1
Originally posted by relentless1
overtime Anakin has fought he's been overcome by his emotions; it just so happens that it was a boost for him once in his last fight with Dooku...Sidious would slaughter him

*everytime, not overtime

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