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If I decided to boycott Israel because they're butchering civilians (kids,women, old people), would that make me anti-jewish? And if I was boycotting Israel, why would people even call me anti jewish? Let's say I really did hate Israel. Wouldn't that make me anti-Israel, not anti-jewish?

If older people in the USA say they hate Russians, would that make them anti catholic or anti christian? Of course not, so why the focus in the "jewish" part?

Yes, if you have even the slightest problem or even a complaint against anything related to Israel and its policy that means you are a bigoted Jew hating Hitler loving terrorist supporting holocaust denying baby eating piece of sh!t who is personally reaponsible for all bad things that happened/will happen to Jews all over the world. Also probably a paedophile as well.

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
Russians

Your Sam-summoning skills are pretty good

Israel =/= Judaism

Being anti jewish and being stupid are two different things. Based on your post, you're an idiot who must happen to get his news from Palestine Weekly because the butchering is coming from the Palestinians. It's nice to know we still have these lunatics here

WHAAAAAAAAAT?

To the PC crowd, yeah..you're probably anti jews.

Just like we're anti-Islam if we talk about the more radical aspects. It's the perfect way to avoid actually having to engage anyone. Why do that when you can just accuse them of racism/sexism/whatever ism.

Originally posted by Surtur
To the PC crowd, yeah..you're probably anti jews.

Just like we're anti-Islam if we talk about the more radical aspects. It's the perfect way to avoid actually having to engage anyone. Why do that when you can just accuse them of racism/sexism/whatever ism.

Ron Paul is anti Israel but he's not anti Jewish because his anti Israel arguments are actually rational and economic. We can all agree we don't expect anything resembling that from Van.. Then again, anyone dumb and insane enough to call Israel a terrorist state is someone you just point and laugh at

Israeli settlers.

The word you're looking for is antisemitic.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Your Sam-summoning skills are pretty good Nah, got nothing to do with nationalities/religion. Only posting in this thread to call out the usual Israel apologists who will insult and ridicule anyone who dares to speak up against the continues inhuman acts of violence and terrorism committed in the name of Israel.

Originally posted by SamZED
Nah, got nothing to do with nationalities/religion. Only posting in this thread to call out the usual Israel apologists who will insult and ridicule anyone who dares to speak up against the continues inhuman acts of violence and terrorism committed in the name of Israel.

Sure, if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians Except for all the ones committed by the Israeli all the time. But i'm sure it's not the case in your made up fantasy land you named "actual reality".

Originally posted by SamZED
Except for all the ones committed by the Israeli all the time. But i'm sure it's not the case in your made up fantasy land you named "actual reality". ah yes, because you provided proof of any of the bs you posted. Oh wait...

It's true, it's those damn Palestinians firing white phosphorus at Palestinian schools.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
It's true, it's those damn Palestinians firing white phosphorus at Palestinian schools.

Must be those damn Israelis entering the houses of Palestinians and stabbing their children to death.

Nah, Israel is a kind, gentle country. Only barbarians like Palestinians would do something like go around giving Israeli soldiers orders of indiscrimination.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Nah, Israel is a kind, gentle country. Only barbarians like Palestinians would do something like go around giving Israeli soldiers orders of indiscrimination. Nah, Palestinians are nice people who are just getting screwed by the mean Israelis so they're totally justified shooting Ketushah rockets at Israeli homes and using their own kids as shields

I would continue this ignorant yet hilarious back and forth but something tells me you don't actually follow middle eastern news or pick and choose due to confirmation bias. It has been amusing.

You're an amusing guy, we should go discuss more about how terrorists have nothing to do with Israel's creation, that was a good conversation.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
You're an amusing guy, we should go discuss more about how terrorists have nothing to do with Israel's creation, that was a good conversation.

I prefer we discuss your version of ass backwards reality. Now THAT is amusing

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Must be those damn Israelis entering the houses of Palestinians and stabbing their children to death. How does the Palestinians committing acts of inhumanity disprove an assertion that Israel does?

Are you denying that Israel used white phosphorous shells over densely populated areas of Gaza?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I prefer we discuss your version of ass backwards reality. Now THAT is amusing

I prefer to discuss whatever world you live in where it's okay to murder innocents because a few of your own people were murdered.

Originally posted by NemeBro
How does the Palestinians committing acts of inhumanity disprove an assertion that Israel does?

Are you denying that Israel used white phosphorous shells over densely populated areas of Gaza?

That's not a very objective statement, more like a double standard. I never said israel is blameless.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
I prefer to discuss whatever world you live in where it's okay to murder innocents because a few of your own people were murdered. I thought you rather described your world perfectly. Like i said, ass backwards while ignoring reality when it doesn't conform to your views.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
That's not a very objective statement, more like a double standard. I never said israel is blameless.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians

"All of said acts". You said that all the acts of inhumanity are perpetrated by the Palestinians, so in the context of "committing inhuman acts" you are in fact saying that Israel is blameless.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"All of said acts". You said that all the acts of inhumanity are perpetrated by the Palestinians, so in the context of "committing inhuman acts" you are in fact saying that Israel is blameless. Good catch, I'll amend that part.

That slip up means you're secretly a nazi.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I thought you rather described your world perfectly. Like i said, ass backwards while ignoring reality when it doesn't conform to your views.

Right, your world.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
ah yes, because you provided proof of any of the bs you posted. Oh wait... I don't owe you any proof as I wasn't talking to you. You quoted me. Also it's not bs, it's well known documented facts that are only ignored by Israeli apologist like yourself. And not surprisingly, you are the only one posting bs in this thread. Case in point, you claimed that all the violence/terrorism in the region is committed by Palestinians, which is not only an apologist nonsense but is also an incredibly stupid move as a poster. You locked yourself in a tiny box. You said "all" so now all one has to do to prove you wrong is give one single example of violence/terrorism committed by Israel, and concidering that there are few example mentioned in this thread already.. you're pretty much destroying your own posts. But plase enjoy your life in the la la land where your statements aren't complete horse sh!t.

Well I mean, he already said that he was mistaken to say all the inhumane acts are committed by Palestinians.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Right, your world. oh how cute, a " no u " retort

Originally posted by SamZED
I don't owe you any proof as I wasn't talking to you. You quoted me. Also it's not bs, it's well known documented facts that are only ignored by Israeli apologist like yourself. And not surprisingly, you are the only one posting bs in this thread. Case in point, you claimed that all the violence/terrorism in the region is committed by Palestinians, which is not only an apologist nonsense but is also an incredibly stupid move as a poster. You locked yourself in a tiny box. You said "all" so now all one has to do to prove you wrong is give one single example of violence/terrorism committed by Israel, and concidering that there are few example mentioned in this thread already.. you're pretty much destroying your own posts. But plase enjoy your life in the la la land where your statements aren't complete horse sh!t. don't think I've seen so much delusion and denial mixed with stupidity all in one butthurt post. That was funny

Warehouse getting owned.

Uh oh looks like the resident troll is awake.


I forgot to quote you on this while drilling you a new one because even I'm not sure you understand the hysterical irony of your rant after you posted that. Carry on.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
don't think I've seen so much delusion and denial mixed with stupidity all in one butthurt post. That was funny Wow what a "rebuttal". You sure sound cocky for someone who just got caught spewing horse sh!t. Only came here to call out disgusting apologists who'll defend any and all atrocities committed by their precious Israel. Mission accomplished. Cheers.

Originally posted by SamZED
You sure sound cocky for someone who just got caught spewing horse sh!t. Only came here to call out disgusting apologists who'll defend any and all atrocities committed by their precious Israel. Mission accomplished. Cheers.

<Says Israelis commit all the crimes
<Criticizes someone for saying Palestinians commit all the crimes
<Doesn't understand irony and proceeds to type butthurt retorts that have all emotion and no logic involved.


Great job.
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So you've reached the stage of desperation where you're using condescending gifs to cover your butthurt over the fact you've got no argument. That was quick. And followed by a weak-ass attempt at putting words in my mouth. Please do quote me where I said that "all" acts of violence are committed by Israel. Allow me to recap our "debate" for those here with short memory:
- I said that Israel commits disgusting acts of violence/terrorism which is a fact only stupid people that are in complete denial can ignore.
- You replied saying that all acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians which is horse sh!t.
- I called you on said horse sh!t.
- You showed you're too butthurt and immature to walk away after you've been called on your horse sh!t.
Good job.

You said "except committed by israeli all the time." It's sad you can't even remember what you wrote. Further evidence of your butthurt is your "no ur butthurt" retort, followed by continuous crying. Your childish antics are a breath of fresh air though

We should be launching Drone strikes against everywhere, not just Pakistan and the Middle East. Subjugate and Annihilate.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You said "except committed by israeli all the time." It's sad you can't even remember what you wrote. Further evidence of your butthurt is your "no ur butthurt" retort, followed by continuous crying. Your childish antics are a breath of fresh air though

Lol are you seriously trying the "he who smelt it" argument to cover your stupidity? I'm calling you butthurt because you are butthurt. End of story. Once again but this time for stupid people:

My post - "...Except for all the ones committed by the Israel all the time..."
Your post - "... if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians..."

Not sure if you're really that stupid or just too stubborn/butthurt to walk away. Either way, watching you humiliating yourself is way too fun. Please do go on.

Oh yes, repeating everything i said to you while desperately rationalizing your sad attempts at an argument is fun indeed. Watching you covering it up with "no u" is even more amusing

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Oh yes, repeating everything i said to you while desperately rationalizing your sad attempts at an argument is fun indeed. Watching you covering it up with "no u" is even more amusing Now you're realizing your mistake and just arguing for the sake of argument. So sad. Other apologists at least put up a fight. I'll just leave this short summary here in case others feel like enjoying your stupidity:

"Debate" summary:
- I said that Israel commits disgusting acts of violence/terrorism which is a fact only stupid people that are in complete denial can ignore.
- You replied saying that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians which is horse sh!t.
- I called you on said horse sh!t.
- You showed you're too butthurt and immature to walk away after you've been called on your horse sh!t.

Oh i see. So not only are you butthurt, embarrassed, and unable to remember what you wrote, but now you desperately want to get the last word in. Got it

I am embarrassed for you. Its not just that you are not man enough to admit that you've been caught spewing nonsense but now you're trying to turn it around by steering away from the subject with personal attacks.

Again, despite your claim I never once said that ALL acts of terrorism/violence in the region are committed by Israel and you failed to provide the quote.
Now allow me to help you. Here is your post from the first page where you're talking about violence/terrorism in the region:
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians

Now, answer two question. Don't change the subject. I know that it's your last resort at this point but at least try to preserve some dignity and answer.
- Are you denying the fact that you said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians?
- Are you denying the fact that I called you on that nonsense and you've been acting like a little child ever since?
Please answer the questions.

Originally posted by SamZED
I am embarrassed for you. Its not just that you are not man enough to admit that you've been caught spewing nonsense but now you're trying to turn it around by steering away from the subject with personal attacks.

Again, despite your claim I never once said that ALL acts of terrorism/violence in the region are committed by Israel and you failed to provide the quote.
Now allow me to help you. Here is your post from the first page where you're talking about violence/terrorism in the region:


Now, answer two question. Don't change the subject. I know that it's your last resort at this point but at least try to preserve some dignity and answer.
- Are you denying the fact that you said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians?
- Are you denying the fact that I called you on that nonsense and you've been acting like a little child ever since?
Please answer the questions.

Ok Sam, I think it's becoming clear that you're just parroting me now. Everything I've said to you, you've repeated back to me almost verbatim. I have completely sympathy for you and your shortcomings. You're desperately just trying to get the last word in and frankly it's embarrassing how you're repeating everything back to me like a 5 year old. Now please repeat everything back to me again so you can have the last word and I can have a laugh at your expense

Now let me help you one last time before you embarrass yourself again.

I said this:

You said this:

Essentially repeating what I said but in a "no u" manner. Again, very embarrassing to be you. Btw, there's no such thing as "committing terror and atrocities in the name of Israel". That's just dumb.

At this point I'm just curious how much longer you'll continue posting your bs with your own quotes proving you wrong on the very same page.

I said Israel commits acts of violence/terrorism in the region. Not all, but in general. Quote:
Originally posted by SamZED
Except for all the ones committed by the Israeli all the time. But i'm sure it's not the case in your made up fantasy land you named "actual reality".

You said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians. Quote:
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians

I called you out on that and you've been in denial about it ever since. For almost three pages now. Conclusion - you're fool of sh!t. Great. Moving on.

Originally posted by SamZED
At this point I'm just curious how much longer you'll continue posting your bs with your own quotes proving you wrong on the very same page.

I said Israel commits acts of violence/terrorism in the region. Not all, but in general. Quote:


You said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians. Quote:


I called you out on that and you've been in denial about it ever since. For almost three pages now. Conclusion - you're fool of sh!t. Great. Moving on.


Right so we've established that you can't read nor follow a discussion so you have to blur everything by repeating everything I said back to me and just pray that I don't respond. Failed yet again

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Right so we've established that you can't read nor follow a discussion so you have to blur everything by repeating everything I said back to me and just pray that I don't respond. Failed yet again lol im not repeating those things, your own quotes do. Your own words proving that you're full of sh!t. Heck I pray that you do respond, I'm actually planning on posting your quotes on every page of this thread for others to enjoy until you hopefully man up and admit that you're full of sh!t.

I apologize, every time you respond with an essay you prove my point. You lost and you desperately want the last word. Please parrot me in the next post and we can close this embarrassing chapter of your life. I'm sure the only thing that's enjoyable here besides your continued incompetence is your desperate attempt to get the last word in.

Uh-huh. Ready to admit you're full of sh!t yet?
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I said Israel commits acts of violence/terrorism in the region. Not all, but in general. Quote:
Originally posted by SamZED
Except for all the ones committed by the Israeli all the time.
You said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians. Quote:
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, if you ignore actual reality when all of said acts are being committed by the Palestinians
You've even given yourself a thumbsup.

Originally posted by SamZED
Uh-huh. Ready to admit you're full of sh!t yet?
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I said Israel commits acts of violence/terrorism in the region. Not all, but in general. Quote:

You said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians. Quote:

You've even given yourself a thumbsup.

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Being a Spider-Man fan is bad enough... but you're a Palestinian supporter too, Sam?!

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Yes you are a racist. Just like someone opposing Israel on here called me a racist for pointing out that black males represent 6% of the population but commit 50% of violent crime according to FBI statistics.
Or was I a sexist for showing proof that in some areas of the us proven false rape allegations were 50% of all cases.

Originally posted by Raisen
Yes you are a racist. Just like someone opposing Israel on here called me a racist for pointing out that black males represent 6% of the population but commit 50% of violent crime according to FBI statistics.
Or was I a sexist for showing proof that in some areas of the us proven false rape allegations were 50% of all cases.

The number is more like 13%, but that's still crazy when they commit 50% of the murders. Or actually if we're going to be specific, the last I read it was 52% of the homicides.

People who think a fact can be racist are part of the problem with this country. They want to ignore big problems and instead focus on things like..if a man who believes he is truly a woman can use the woman's bathroom.

I think most of the people involved with this stuff are incredibly bored, incredibly unsuccessful at life and therefore need a cause.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I think most of the people involved with this stuff are incredibly bored, incredibly unsuccessful at life and therefore need a cause.

Yes but their boredom leads to just more lies and just genuinely making everyone around you dumber than they were before.

This country isn't a Utopia, we have a variety of legit problems so I don't see why people need to try to inflate certain issues when there are plenty to tackle that you don't need to hype up.

The other issue for me is...politicians will go out in public and spew out these lies based on what these people say and then that legitimizes it more in the view of people. I don't think they always know they are lying they just don't care enough to even check into what they are saying.

No. You can be critical of Israel and their policies without being anti-Semitic. Like the majority of the western world, I was critical of South Africa during it's apartheid days - it didn't make me anti-white to take that stance (and I am white.)

Israel's defenders can be real zealots, though. Noam Chomsky has criticized Israel's policies for decades, and they respond by calling him a self-hating Jew.

Which he is and has been noted to be over his lifetime, and that has zero to do with anything he's said about Israel.

Originally posted by SamZED
Uh-huh. Ready to admit you're full of sh!t yet?
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I said Israel commits acts of violence/terrorism in the region. Not all, but in general. Quote:

You said that ALL acts of violence/terrorism in the region are committed by Palestinians. Quote:

You've even given yourself a thumbsup. SamZED is 100% correct here.

Dave said that all inhumane acts are committed by Palestinians. SamZED merely said that Israel commits inhumane acts. "All" in SamZED's context referred solely to the inhumane acts committed by Israel, Dave's usage of "all" was referring to all inhumane acts between the two in general, which is to say that the Palestinians commit all of them.

As the grand poobah of the English language I hope that I successfully cleared this up for everyone.

Originally posted by roughrider
No. You can be critical of Israel and their policies without being anti-Semitic. Like the majority of the western world, I was critical of South Africa during it's apartheid days - it didn't make me anti-white to take that stance (and I am white.)

Israel's defenders can be real zealots, though. Noam Chomsky has criticized Israel's policies for decades, and they respond by calling him a self-hating Jew.

I agree with this.

And it's also certainly true that many conservatives/republicans accused of "anti semitism" are often pro zionists, and supporters of Israel.

Originally posted by NemeBro
SamZED is 100% correct here.

Dave said that all inhumane acts are committed by Palestinians. SamZED merely said that Israel commits inhumane acts. "All" in SamZED's context referred solely to the inhumane acts committed by Israel, Dave's usage of "all" was referring to all inhumane acts between the two in general, which is to say that the Palestinians commit all of them.

As the grand poobah of the English language I hope that I successfully cleared this up for everyone.



Emphasis mine. And I've already amended my statement on page 1. The point becomes hypocritical when one person is focusing on Israel while criticizing the other person for focusing on Palestinians.

I'm aware that you amended it, as I said to SamZED, but you also claimed that he said Israel commits all the crimes. Which is not the case.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm aware that you amended it, as I said to SamZED, but you also claimed that he said Israel commits all the crimes. Which is not the case.

No, I said exactly what he wrote. That's why I quoted him repeatedly. And his statement was 100% inaccurate as well, hence the repeated quotes and ridiculing.

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
If I decided to boycott Israel because they're butchering civilians (kids,women, old people), would that make me anti-jewish? And if I was boycotting Israel, why would people even call me anti jewish? Let's say I really did hate Israel. Wouldn't that make me anti-Israel, not anti-jewish?

If older people in the USA say they hate Russians, would that make them anti catholic or anti christian? Of course not, so why the focus in the "jewish" part?

Of course not.

A naunced opposition to Israel's policies in no way makes you anti semetic.

Because many liberals and American jews hold that position, and they're the ones who get to decide who's bigoted and who isn't. Now, if Repubs were exclusively anti zionist's, THAT would be racist.

The problem is most anti israel opinions are also anti semitic. I've heard very few opinions that didn't come from psychos with tim foil hats.

ISIS=Israeli Secret Intelligence Service

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