Thanos vs 1 Celestial (my added comment)

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Bobandjim1260
A while before I joined this site, I saw a forum dedicated to discussing a battle between one Celestial and Thanos. The forum had the set rules of round one featuring no preparation and round two featuring preparation. I'd like to add my comment since the thread is closed.

I say that without preparation, the Celestial wins the battle. With preparation time allowed, Thanos wins the battle. Here is my reasoning for both.

A lot of people mention the Odin vs Thanos battle being a stomp in Odin's favor, which made me wonder if anyone had even read the comic it was featured in. Thanos was not fighting Odin to beat him, Thanos was fighting Odin because Odin would not listen to invaders bringing his defeated son to his doorstep. It was clear throughout the battle that Odin was trying to kill Thanos while the other isn't true. Thanos actually tanked several of Odin's blast before Odin summoned his spear. He also made Odin stumble around a lot during the beginning of the fight. So, some people saying that Thanos couldn't lay a scratch on Odin are lying. The fight was closer than many people on this bored make it seem. That being said, Odin would have won the battle, even if Thanos was serious about trying to beat him. It's be very close, but Odin Force is too much for Thanos to put down.

iceman24567
Meh i disagree with your interpretation of the Thanos vs Odin fight no expression

One_Angry_Scot
This doesn't really explain why you think Thanos would win with prep though.

And what Celestial are you using for this battle?

iceman24567
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
This doesn't really explain why you think Thanos would win with prep though.

And what Celestial are you using for this battle? It would have to be a no name tin can for Thanos to put up a decent fight

Bobandjim1260
The same goes for the "battle" with Galactus. What people tend to ignore is the context of the story itself. Thanos and Galactus actually had equal prep against each other. Galactus was fully fed and was trying to use the Infinity Gems to cure his Hunger. He didn't know he was being manipulated by The Hunger. The blast that Thanos took from Galactus actually depleted a fully fed Galactus enough to make him hunger again. Thanos did not beg Galactus to spare his life, Thanos begged Galactus to listen to him about who was manipulating him.
Again, however, that being said. Thanos was only able to tank Galactus's (and Omega, a being twice as powerful as Galactus) blow due to his shielding technology. Unlike where he relied solely on his durability while fighting Odin. Given all of this, it's safe to say that Thanos is low to mid level Skyfather. As he has better feats than a lot of them. I will argue on that point later, but being limited to a mobile device, my scan posting options are not readily available. So here is how I see it. Galactus is, and generally has the potential to wield more power than any one Celestial (besides maybe Tiamut, One Above All and Exitar), he is however, far less durable, and in my opinion, does not have as advanced technology. However, that too is debatable. Even the weakest Celestials, like the Red and Blue Celestials, are beings I consider above Odin and Zeus. Meaning that if a random encounter would go down, Thanos could most likely use his shielding to successfully prevent the Celestial from killing him. He could probably stagger the Celestial. He would then probably teleport away. However, Thanos does not have the ability to put down any one Celestial based on power and durability alone. Which brings me to my reasoning behind my second choice.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by iceman24567
It would have to be a no name tin can for Thanos to put up a decent fight

thumb up

I'm hoping it's not Tiamut.

Magnon
What is the Celestial snaps its fingers, and turns Thanos into a frog? Isn't it awfully hard to fight a Celestial if you're a frog?

iceman24567
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
thumb up

I'm hoping it's not Tiamut. Thanos would need more than just prep he would need supreme artifacts

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
The same goes for the "battle" with Galactus. What people tend to ignore is the context of the story itself. Thanos and Galactus actually had equal prep against each other. Galactus was fully fed and was trying to use the Infinity Gems to cure his Hunger. He didn't know he was being manipulated by The Hunger. The blast that Thanos took from Galactus actually depleted a fully fed Galactus enough to make him hunger again. Thanos did not beg Galactus to spare his life, Thanos begged Galactus to listen to him about who was manipulating him.
Again, however, that being said. Thanos was only able to tank Galactus's (and Omega, a being twice as powerful as Galactus) blow due to his shielding technology. Unlike where he relied solely on his durability while fighting Odin. Given all of this, it's safe to say that Thanos is low to mid level Skyfather. As he has better feats than a lot of them. I will argue on that point later, but being limited to a mobile device, my scan posting options are not readily available. So here is how I see it. Galactus is, and generally has the potential to wield more power than any one Celestial (besides maybe Tiamut, One Above All and Exitar), he is however, far less durable, and in my opinion, does not have as advanced technology. However, that too is debatable. Even the weakest Celestials, like the Red and Blue Celestials, are beings I consider above Odin and Zeus. Meaning that if a random encounter would go down, Thanos could most likely use his shielding to successfully prevent the Celestial from killing him. He could probably stagger the Celestial. He would then probably teleport away. However, Thanos does not have the ability to put down any one Celestial based on power and durability alone. Which brings me to my reasoning behind my second choice.

He's never gonna take a Celestial on in combat.

And Red Celestials (if you are including Arishem in that) aren't all weak.

Even if Thanos could tank a Celestial blast. Which I don't know if that is possible. They don't tire like Galactus. They'd just sit there constantly pummelling him with energy until his shield gave out and would carry on when it broke.

Thanos doesn't stand a chance in my opinion. Even Celestials like Eson are no laughing matter.

golem370
Odin + other gods tried to stop a Celestial and couldn't and they had thousands of year to prepare.

One_Angry_Scot
Talking of Celestials this is a good bit of art.

http://i.imgur.com/cVSnzAe.jpg

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Celestial slaughters.

Bobandjim1260
When we consider preparation with prep masters, it's really hard because of how good they are at winning in preparation is involved. Thanos is one of the most intelligent beings in the Marvel Universe. He has demonstrated this in nearly every comic he is featured in. I even (on comicvine) had a Galactus vs Thanos intelligence debate. I broke it down intelligence into five categories (I will not be going into as much detail as I did there unless asked). Each category has an available 20 points maximum. The categories are: Knowledge, Creativity, Cunning, Strategy, and Comprehension (how much you are able to draw from cosmic senses). Galactus scored: 20, 20, 10, 15, 20. Thanos scored: 15, 20, 20, 20, 10 (base Thanos). Thanos has been shown to construct and operate on Galactus level technology on several occasions (the Synthetic Infinity Gem, Turning Galactus and Surfer into a weapon, Omega, The Time Machine that is capable of destroying entire time lines. Etc). A lot of cosmic beings don't use prep in the same way Thanos does. If Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War show us anything, their strategy is merely to overwhelm their enemies with extraordinary power. People also assume that any Average Celestial or cosmic being could prep to take down an entire Universe as easy as Thanos did. If that's true, then why didn't Tiamut or the Proemial Gos succeed? Again, because their strategy was just to creatively find ways to exhausted their power to defeat their enemies. Thanos's preparation is different. He tricks, manipulates, traps, confuses, and just plain out thinks many of his foes. It's part of the reason he's gained ultimate power so many times. If I was to think of a way Thanos could use his technology to defeat a Celestial, he could teleport the device that generates black holes directly into it's brain. He could find and convince/ manipulate other entities to distract the Celestial enough to defeat and or turn it into a weapon. Maybe he wants to steal it's energy. Maybe he wants to manipulate it for further schemes involving the entire Celestial race. It's just how Thanos has always been written. Not only by Jim Starlin, but by the writers of Annihilation and Thanos Imperative too. We've seen a powered up Odin manage to de-limb a regular Celestial (I think It was Ziran who he de-limed). We've seen Thor toss Odin's sword through Arishem. We've seen Reed defeated the Celestials on numerous occasions. With Thanos' s strategic mind and his ability to construct ridiculous technological devices, I have no doubt in my mind that Thanos would defeat a Celestial in a prep war.

golem370
Celestials have lost alot of their Enigmatic Lustre in the past 25 years which I hate.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He's never gonna take a Celestial on in combat.

And Red Celestials (if you are including Arishem in that) aren't all weak.

Even if Thanos could tank a Celestial blast. Which I don't know if that is possible. They don't tire like Galactus. They'd just sit there constantly pummelling him with energy until his shield gave out and would carry on when it broke.

Thanos doesn't stand a chance in my opinion. Even Celestials like Eson are no laughing matter.

While a Celestial may not need to recharge it's blast, Thanos has been shown to endure blast from beings like Galactus (Fully Fed) and Omega (A being twice as powerful as Galactus). I feel the battle without prep would go like this. They'd encounter each other, the Celestial would fire a cosmic ray at Thanos, Thanos would block it due to his shielding. He would then proceed to fire a blast at the Celestial, staggering it and or knocking it off it's feet (like Thor has done). While it's distracted he would use his untraceable teleportation technology to flea. If the Celestial pursues, he'd do what he did to Silver Surfer and lead him down several dead ends. Enough for Thanos to go into hiding long enough to hatch a plan.

Delta1938
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Talking of Celestials this is a good bit of art.

http://i.imgur.com/cVSnzAe.jpg

A nod to Promethean Giants?

golem370
I see the encounter as a Celestial not even paying attenion to Thanos best blast and then squashing like that one did to Loki in Reborn

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by golem370
Celestials have lost alot of their Enigmatic Lustre in the past 25 years which I hate.

This is true. Had the Celestials feats not varied as greatly as they currently do. I'd suggest that every Celestial is more powerful than Galactus. I'd also say, if they had maintained such high levels of power and only increased since then, that Thanos without prep wouldn't even escape a Celestial. However, that is not the case.
To the individual who asked what would happen if Thanos was turned into something else by the Celestial. He has complete control over his own atomic structure. Not only that, he has been shown to be nearly completely resistant to matter manipulation. Otherwise both Galactus and the Silver Surfer would have used it on him.

Bobandjim1260
A wonderful piece of art work. However I don't agree that Galactus could beat Exitar.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
While a Celestial may not need to recharge it's blast, Thanos has been shown to endure blast from beings like Galactus (Fully Fed) and Omega (A being twice as powerful as Galactus). I feel the battle without prep would go like this. They'd encounter each other, the Celestial would fire a cosmic ray at Thanos, Thanos would block it due to his shielding. He would then proceed to fire a blast at the Celestial, staggering it and or knocking it off it's feet (like Thor has done). While it's distracted he would use his untraceable teleportation technology to flea. If the Celestial pursues, he'd do what he did to Silver Surfer and lead him down several dead ends. Enough for Thanos to go into hiding long enough to hatch a plan.

Technically Thanos would lose by self BFR then wouldn't he?

And also even if Thanos tries to fire back at the Celestial the Celestial is still firing at him. It won't give Thanos the opportunity like what happened with Galactus. Remember you've said that Thanos blocks the blast then fires back. But the Celestial won't stop.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by golem370
I see the encounter as a Celestial not even paying attenion to Thanos best blast and then squashing like that one did to Loki in Reborn

The power level between Loki and Thanos is incredibly vast. If Thor was able to puncture Exitar's armor, I could see Thanos doing the same if not more. That's just how I see the battle going down. I believe that even the weakest Celestial is more powerful than base Odin (who is really only powerful and durable due to Odin Force). Given that, I know that Thanos would never attempt to fight a single Celestial like Eson or the Blue Celestial without having some sort of plan first. The durability of a Celestial (due to their size, armor, and power) is probably one of their most powerful assets.

golem370
I go back to the confrontation between IG Adam Warlock and LT where Adam starts to power up blowing all the other cosmic being back but the Celestial a powerful show of durability even Lord Chaos or Master Order using the Celestial as a shield.

golem370
The Exitar deal imo wax pis other wise the comic book would have been nonsense to make

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Technically Thanos would lose by self BFR then wouldn't he?

And also even if Thanos tries to fire back at the Celestial the Celestial is still firing at him. It won't give Thanos the opportunity like what happened with Galactus. Remember you've said that Thanos blocks the blast then fires back. But the Celestial won't stop.

If you consider Thanos running away a loss, then yes, he loses. I never said that Thanos would win a one on one battle against a Celestial. Thanos has been shown to fire while his shielding was up. This was shown in Thanos Quest against Champion (I believe), and during his battle against Omega.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by golem370
The Exitar deal imo wax pis other wise the comic book would have been nonsense to make
As I stated, one of the most powerful attributes of a Celestial is their near unmatched durability. However, Doctor Doom also survived a blast from the Infinity Gauntlet due to his armor and shielding too.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
If you consider Thanos running away a loss, then yes, he loses. I never said that Thanos would win a one on one battle against a Celestial. Thanos has been shown to fire while his shielding was up. This was shown in Thanos Quest against Champion (I believe), and during his battle against Omega.

My point was that even if he did fire while shielded it won't matter since the Celestial will just sit there forever since its for all intents and purposes immortal blasting away at him.

You didn't expand so much on the prep part. Could you elaborate a bit more on how you think he could win via prep please?

golem370
Imo also pis I mean come on Doom tanks it yet Galactus, Stranger, and others get blasted back that is just BS.

AlmightyKfish
Eh with prep I'd say Thanos could probably beat a Celestial. While they used to be way more enigmatic and beyond reproach, over the last 30 years we've seen Reed kill one with tech, hyperspace manipulation shred them, Sol's Anvil blowing up the merged one, Jarnbjorn killing them etc.

Basically, prep and advanced technology has been pretty useful against Celestials.

So I would say considering how Celestials' standing has dropped since the old 'Odin prepped pointlessly for a thousand years stuff', Thanos could probably take one out with enough prep time.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
My point was that even if he did fire while shielded it won't matter since the Celestial will just sit there forever since its for all intents and purposes immortal blasting away at him.

You didn't expand so much on the prep part. Could you elaborate a bit more on how you think he could win via prep please?
Out of curiosity, of all of the comics with that I've read that have featured Celestials, I have never seem them continually blast an enemy unconditionally into giving up. From what I've seen, they either ignore their foe entirely, or they send one powerful blast then look back at their work. Even if they were to continually blast, a counter blast from Thanos would probably stagger them long enough to get away. He has blasted both Galactus and Omega with such an effect. To elaborate on the prep side, Thanos has taken out entities equal to or more powerful than Celestials (The Hunger, The Magus with the Infinity Gauntlet, etc). If I could choose the ways Thanos could take down the Celestial beyond the one that I already specified, and the ones he's used to take down entities of equal or more power. He could lead them into the crunch. He has a vast amount of explosives, capable of harming both Galactus, Omega, Hunger, and overriding planetary defense mechanisms. If the Celestial has any sort of weakness to exploit, Thanos would find it. How? The Infinity Well, his vast collection of knowledge from being omniscient several times (some of the knowledge he has retained/stolen from thousands of worlds and ancient beings, etc. There are many ways Thanos could out prep an Average celestial.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by golem370
Imo also pis I mean come on Doom tanks it yet Galactus, Stranger, and others get blasted back that is just BS.
To be fair, we don't know if the power Thanos used to stop Doom was the same he used to capture the Abstracts. I also wouldn't downplay Doom's armor, as I recall it being slightly removed from reality. I also want to state that it wouldn't be PIS that he survived. Plot Induced Stupidity is when a character suddenly acts out of character for reasons attributed to plot. In comic books specifically, writers have the say on who they think a character can defeat, regardless of what fans think/or has been previously established. Sometimes writers just need to invent a way to stop character from dying.

golem370
Call it what ever but Doom shouldn't tank a blast by thd IG user if Thanos with the IG could stomp a group of cosmic beings Doom should have been dog chow.

Sin I AM
Celestials arent what they use to be Thors ax can attest to that.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by golem370
Call it what ever but Doom shouldn't tank a blast by thd IG user if Thanos with the IG could stomp a group of cosmic beings Doom should have been dog chow.
There are a lot of factors to consider. I agree with you, but writers typically know what they're doing when they write something. Especially someone like Jim Starlin. I keep seeing people talk about how Odin failed to stop the fourth host with prep. I think it's wise to consider that Odin is not as skillful a pepper as Thanos. I'm not sure there are many in the MCU that are. His intelligence is unrivaled by almost everyone in the Universe.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
There are a lot of factors to consider. I agree with you, but writers typically know what they're doing when they write something. Especially someone like Jim Starlin. I keep seeing people talk about how Odin failed to stop the fourth host with prep. I think it's wise to consider that Odin is not as skillful a pepper as Thanos. I'm not sure there are many in the MCU that are. His intelligence is unrivaled by almost everyone in the Universe.

What prep would he attain that could bestca celestial without a no limit fallacy

Galan007
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Talking of Celestials this is a good bit of art.

http://i.imgur.com/cVSnzAe.jpg Originally posted by Delta1938
A nod to Promethean Giants? Nah, not at all...


http://i.imgur.com/gWUAVIUh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EBkoNPoh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7hto3O1h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5xQlP9hh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v3B7Ro6h.jpg




stick out tongue

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by Sin I AM
What prep would he attain that could bestca celestial without a no limit fallacy
Your usage of the logical claim the zero limit fallacy doesn't make sense in this context. Thanos has been shown to prep and beat things greater than Celestials many times. If you want me to craft a plausible Thanos story where he stops some Celestials I could. Prep for prep masters isn't really fair. It's not a no limit fallacy. The things he couldn't take down with prep basically starts at (possibly) Eternity and Infinity, and then goes to things like The Beyonder, The Living Tribunal, and TOAA.

Bobandjim1260
I'm actually surprised Thanos hasn't gone up against many Celestials. The only time they've attacked him was when he held ultimate power. But it wasn't just them, it was the entire cosmic pantheon. I've seen Thanos interact with Galactus and Eternity more than I've seen him interact with the Celestials. Which is interesting because the Celestials are partly the reason for his existence. In fact, during Infinity Gauntlet, I always thought that The One Above All celestial and Ziran the Tester were present because they were basically responsible for Thanos's existence.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
Your usage of the logical claim the zero limit fallacy doesn't make sense in this context. Thanos has been shown to prep and beat things greater than Celestials many times. If you want me to craft a plausible Thanos story where he stops some Celestials I could. Prep for prep masters isn't really fair. It's not a no limit fallacy. The things he couldn't take down with prep basically starts at (possibly) Eternity and Infinity, and then goes to things like The Beyonder, The Living Tribunal, and TOAA.

But it is. Prep shouldn't b an open ended book. If you give reed prep time there should be a limit. Say thirty minutes an hour etc to get what he needs to battle and get his ass back. So if he's in LA and the prep is 30 min he would have to travel from cali to the Baxter building in time to pull out the UN or whatever. Otherwise it's spite

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by Sin I AM
But it is. Prep shouldn't b an open ended book. If you give reed prep time there should be a limit. Say thirty minutes an hour etc to get what he needs to battle and get his ass back. So if he's in LA and the prep is 30 min he would have to travel from cali to the Baxter building in time to pull out the UN or whatever. Otherwise it's spite
A no limits Fallacy would be assuming he can do anything he hasn't already been able to do with prep. Which I never assumed he could. I said in my previous post that his prep master abilities does have it's limits if cosmic artifacts are not involved. He has defeated being more powerful than Celestials on several occasions (Galacrus fully powered, Omega, The Hunger, Infinity Gauntlet Magus, the wielder of the Heart of the Universe, Adam Warlock in Infinity Revelation, Eternity (although I don't know if I should count this one due to it being part of a Deadpool comic), etc. He's defeated all of them without the use of power ups. That list doesn't even include those who were taken out as a side effect.
Prep doesn't mean that Thanos needs to get something that allows him to win. In fact, it's that type of prep that caused Odin the lose against the fourth host. I guess I should say that Thanos gets a week prep. He has defeated enemies more powerful in far less time, but he might make it entertaining with a weeks time. The Celestial gets prep too mind you, but that doesn't really mean much because every time a Celestial has prepared for anything, they've just kind of shown up and blasted the heck out of their enemies. A strategy that has caused them to be defeated at times. It'd be interesting if Thanos figured out how to operate the Celestial Godkiller created by the Aspirants.

zopzop
Thanos.

abhilegend
What is this thread about?

Sin I AM
Why is bada editing peoples post

Bobandjim1260
What's interesting to note is that Tiamut (in a non-canon run) turned Galactus into a weapon in a similar way that Thanos did in Annihilation. I'm wondering if the writers of Annihilation took the concept of turning Galactus into a weapon from that comic. Tiamut is supposedly one of, if not the most powerful Celestials. I feel he could easily handle Galactus. Someone like Tiamut vs Thanos would be a bit different when it comes to my original rounds. Round 1 would turn into Thanos needing to teleport away immediately. Thanos would not be able to stand the onslaught of someone like Tiamut for very long. Round 2 Thanos would still win in a prep war. Given the time limit of a week and beyond. I know this sounds like I'm wanking Thanos, but my choices are not made on speculations that I've picked up from other fans. I've read enough about both the Celestials and Thanos to personally feel comfortable saying that Thanos could find a way to defeat Tiamut with a weeks prep time. As long as he never gets close enough for Tiamut to blast him, he should be fine.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Galan007
Nah, not at all...


http://i.imgur.com/gWUAVIUh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EBkoNPoh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7hto3O1h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5xQlP9hh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v3B7Ro6h.jpg




stick out tongue

I have no clue how I ever thought they were similar. laughing

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
Your usage of the logical claim the zero limit fallacy doesn't make sense in this context. Thanos has been shown to prep and beat things greater than Celestials many times. If you want me to craft a plausible Thanos story where he stops some Celestials I could. Prep for prep masters isn't really fair. It's not a no limit fallacy. The things he couldn't take down with prep basically starts at (possibly) Eternity and Infinity, and then goes to things like The Beyonder, The Living Tribunal, and TOAA.

She likes using the no limits fallacy phrase.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by iceman24567
Meh i disagree with your interpretation of the Thanos vs Odin fight no expression may I ask why you disagree with my interpretation of the Odin/ Thanos fight? I don't feel it's an interpretation as much as it is what really happened.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2382772-warlock_25_19.jpg
Adam "Odin! We come not in..."
Thanos "Forget reasoning with this pompous buffoon, Warlock."
Thanos "Explanations can only come after we have gained Odin's undivided attention"
Odin "There is no way to talk yourself out of this situation, villain!"
Surfer "I see what you mean"

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2382777-warlock_25_23.jpg

Moondragon "This entire enterprise has gone sour Adam! We came here to get Odin's aid in curing Thor's insanity, not start a war with Asgard."
Adam" Be it my fault Odin misunderstood our intetnions and never gave us the chance to explain?"

http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1017177-warlock_25_24.jpg
There is a lot to quote there, but it's basically Odin talking about how he is going to make sure Thanos is dead by the end of the battle. This scan even shows Thanos's blast staggering Odin.

http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1017176-warlock_25_35.jpg
Here, everything is explained.

Thanos was not trying to kill Odin, while the very opposite is true. This fight isn't really a good indication of how a real fight between the two would actually go down. Not to mention right before this Thanos has fought a power gem warrior madness Thor as well as several Asgardians. While I admit Thanos would have lost the battle if it had been a real fight (Odin with Odin force has done some ridiculously crazy things). However, this is far from the notion that "Thanos was going all out trying to kill Odin and Odin casually kicked Thanos's a*s". It actually suggest the opposite is true, without Thanos kicking Odin's ass. If this had been a real battle, Thanos would have had his personal force fields activated. He would also be releasing far more powerful blast than are shown here. This was also before Infinity War, where he beat and absorbed the more powerful doppelganger version of himself.
This reminds me of people getting upset that Invisible Woman beat Exitar the Exterminator while beings like Odin and Thor could barley harm a Celestial (which is also untrue, Odin cut off one's arm and Thor lodged a huge sword through Arishem's chest. Even through the regenerated). How she beat Exitar and the fact that she beat him was not the issue. She essentially destroyed his brain, severing the hyperspace link. She didn't even fully kill Exitar. The issue was that the writers randomly decided to have her powers originate from hyperspace. This would be fine if it was explained before hand that this was the case.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
may I ask why you disagree with my interpretation of the Odin/ Thanos fight? I don't feel it's an interpretation as much as it is what really happened.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2382772-warlock_25_19.jpg
Adam "Odin! We come not in..."
Thanos "Forget reasoning with this pompous buffoon, Warlock."
Thanos "Explanations can only come after we have gained Odin's undivided attention"
Odin "There is no way to talk yourself out of this situation, villain!"
Surfer "I see what you mean"

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/35308/2382777-warlock_25_23.jpg

Moondragon "This entire enterprise has gone sour Adam! We came here to get Odin's aid in curing Thor's insanity, not start a war with Asgard."
Adam" Be it my fault Odin misunderstood our intetnions and never gave us the chance to explain?"

http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1017177-warlock_25_24.jpg
There is a lot to quote there, but it's basically Odin talking about how he is going to make sure Thanos is dead by the end of the battle. This scan even shows Thanos's blast staggering Odin.

http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1017176-warlock_25_35.jpg
Here, everything is explained.

Thanos was not trying to kill Odin, while the very opposite is true. This fight isn't really a good indication of how a real fight between the two would actually go down. Not to mention right before this Thanos has fought a power gem warrior madness Thor as well as several Asgardians. While I admit Thanos would have lost the battle if it had been a real fight (Odin with Odin force has done some ridiculously crazy things). However, this is far from the notion that "Thanos was going all out trying to kill Odin and Odin casually kicked Thanos's a*s". It actually suggest the opposite is true, without Thanos kicking Odin's ass. If this had been a real battle, Thanos would have had his personal force fields activated. He would also be releasing far more powerful blast than are shown here. This was also before Infinity War, where he beat and absorbed the more powerful doppelganger version of himself.
This reminds me of people getting upset that Invisible Woman beat Exitar the Exterminator while beings like Odin and Thor could barley harm a Celestial (which is also untrue, Odin cut off one's arm and Thor lodged a huge sword through Arishem's chest. Even through the regenerated). How she beat Exitar and the fact that she beat him was not the issue. She essentially destroyed his brain, severing the hyperspace link. She didn't even fully kill Exitar. The issue was that the writers randomly decided to have her powers originate from hyperspace. This would be fine if it was explained before hand that this was the case. Originally posted by abhilegend
What is this thread about?

tkitna
So this is Thanos without the Infinity Gems? I realize there are two Celestials here, but damn.

http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/28028/661977-host_9.jpg

Chucking planets at him for cripes sake. I almost give Thanos every win when it comes to prep, but he better do something serious before a Celestial is aware its being attacked.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by abhilegend
It's my added response to Thanos facing off against one Celestial that I wasn't able to add to the original forum before it closed. The rest is a debate on specific points that I used to construct my argument.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by tkitna
So this is Thanos without the Infinity Gems? I realize there are two Celestials here, but damn.

http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/28028/661977-host_9.jpg

Chucking planets at him for cripes sake. I almost give Thanos every win when it comes to prep, but he better do something serious before a Celestial is aware its being attacked. To be fair, Ziran the Tester and the One Above All are incredibly powerful Celestials. Odin was shown using the Odinforce to transport all of the souls of Earth to another location. So casting planets at an IG user is not unbelievable. However, this is nonetheless incredibly impressive due to the fact that the attack was only meant to be a distraction. Now that I think about it, this is actually one of the Celestial's greatest feats.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
It's my added response to Thanos facing off against one Celestial that I wasn't able to add to the original forum before it closed. The rest is a debate on specific points that I used to construct my argument.
So you are just making scenarios where Thanos does this and that and somehow wins?

He did all the prep against Galactus and Omega and both blasted him to shit. It was only with the other character helping him that he was able to do anything to them.

And yeah, Odin beat the shit out of him. He no sold his best attacks combined with surfer as well.

And FYI, Warlock 25 was AFTER Infinity War. He defeated that Thanos clone in Warlock 10 FFS.

srsly

psycho gundam
Originally posted by tkitna
So this is Thanos without the Infinity Gems? I realize there are two Celestials here, but damn.

http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/28028/661977-host_9.jpg

Chucking planets at him for cripes sake. I almost give Thanos every win when it comes to prep, but he better do something serious before a Celestial is aware its being attacked. The perspective of this panel always bothered me

tkitna
Originally posted by psycho gundam
The perspective of this panel always bothered me

I'm curious as to what you think. I've never put much thought into it actually. I just always thought it was a cool feat.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by abhilegend
So you are just making scenarios where Thanos does this and that and somehow wins?

He did all the prep against Galactus and Omega and both blasted him to shit. It was only with the other character helping him that he was able to do anything to them.

And yeah, Odin beat the shit out of him. He no sold his best attacks combined with surfer as well.

And FYI, Warlock 25 was AFTER Infinity War. He defeated that Thanos clone in Warlock 10 FFS.

srsly

"So you are just making scenarios where Thanos does this and that and somehow wins?"
No, another user asked me how Thanos would defeat a Celestial using prep, I created several possible scenarios as to how it could be done. This is after I listed several points about him defeating greater entities with prep.

"And yeah, Odin beat the shit out of him. He no sold his best attacks combined with surfer as well."
I disagree. Odin did have the upper hand throughout the battle, but he did not "beat the shit out of him".
http://i.imgur.com/iSn2W6L.png
http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1017177-warlock_25_24.jpg
Silver Surfer was blasted out of the battle in the very beginning of the fight. It consisted of an Odin trying to kill Thanos, and a Thanos trying to calm Odin down. That was what the other scan were for. Here is an instance where Thanos had the shit beaten out of him. http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/8/85259/1632186-901466_thanos_vs_tyrant_taunt_super.jpg
He fled from Tyrant. He did not succumb to Odin's request for a surrender, in fact, one of the scans above shows us that Odin and Thanos were ready to continue fighting had Lady Sif not intervened.

"He did all the prep against Galactus and Omega and both blasted him to shit. It was only with the other character helping him that he was able to do anything to them."
When Thanos faced Galactus, the only real assistant he had was Pip the Troll. Thanos very well could have placed the charges on Galactus's ship himself, but why, when you have possible allies, would you risk taking on Galactus by yourself? Also, he survived both blast.
http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/3844778-01.jpg
Galactus is well nourished.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85175/4546532-9781418615- 687474703a2f2f7374617469632e636f6d696376696e652e63
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Thanos survives against Galactus's onslaught.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/2/27228/487687-thanos_05__thebastard_megan__pg12.jpg
Galactus states that dealing with him has depleted his vital energies and that he once again hungers. One could surmise that the blast that Thanos's personal shields tanked drained Galactus of a lot of energy.
Omega was twice as powerful as Galactus and he survived the blast. Also, Thanos gathered assistance from other members during that arc for several reasons. One, Omega wasn't the only clone giving everyone trouble. Omega was the most powerful, but it wasn't the one threatening to throw the universe out of balance by destroying the successor to the Anchor of Reality. Depending on how powerful one would consider a celestial to be relative to a well nourished Galactus, i feel it reasonable that Thanos could tank a Celestial blow. Possibly several depending on the Celestial. Lets also not forget that during the Galactus/Thanos battle, the Hunger had been watching the entire time, and Thanos still managed to outsmart it.

" And FYI, Warlock 25 was AFTER Infinity War. He defeated that Thanos clone in Warlock 10 FFS."
You are correct on this point. I had a feeling that it was wrong chronologically after I typed it. So thank you. Even so, Thanos has still gotten upgrades since last they fought. I'm not saying that Thnaos could stand toe to toe with Odin now, but I am saying is that the fight they had was not really a good way to determine how powerful Thanos, or Odin for that matter, really are.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm curious as to what you think. I've never put much thought into it actually. I just always thought it was a cool feat. The Celestials are pointing at Thanos and they're aligned in a manner that their arms are at 90 degrees from their bodies. We know they're 2000 feet tall even (a little bit taller than the CN tower) so they're definitely far apart from one another, but not far enough for a planet to fit between them to strike Thanos. It just looks off

EDIT

made a quick picture to illustrate how off it looks

http://i68.tinypic.com/2imgcw.jpg

Where that cloud is is where Thanos would be

zopzop
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm curious as to what you think. I've never put much thought into it actually. I just always thought it was a cool feat.
It's not really impressive at all. Odin is a skyfather and he's busted galaxies. Here's a chart showing the relative size of the Sun to the Milky Way Galaxy :
http://s32.postimg.org/p67e8zs9t/wm_Sj5f_D.jpg

And keep in mind stars are much larger than planets :
http://s32.postimg.org/d1s4s0fdt/sun_etc.jpg

A galaxy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the sun. The sun >>>>>>>>>>> all those planets the Celestials hurled at Thanos.

It was actually a very LOW showing for them.

Silent Master
Basically, the Thanos vs Odin fight was a high end feat for Thanos and a low end feat for Odin. and even with that, Odin was clearly winning.

tkitna
Originally posted by psycho gundam
The Celestials are pointing at Thanos and they're aligned in a manner that their arms are at 90 degrees from their bodies. We know they're 2000 feet tall even (a little bit taller than the CN tower) so they're definitely far apart from one another, but not far enough for a planet to fit between them to strike Thanos. It just looks off

Where that cloud is is where Thanos would be

I gotcha. Cool.

tkitna
Originally posted by zopzop
It's not really impressive at all. Odin is a skyfather and he's busted galaxies. Here's a chart showing the relative size of the Sun to the Milky Way Galaxy :
http://s32.postimg.org/p67e8zs9t/wm_Sj5f_D.jpg

And keep in mind stars are much larger than planets :
http://s32.postimg.org/d1s4s0fdt/sun_etc.jpg

A galaxy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the sun. The sun >>>>>>>>>>> all those planets the Celestials hurled at Thanos.

It was actually a very LOW showing for them.

I never bothered to break down the physics or logic behind it. It just looked cool to me, but I understand where your coming from.

Also, there seemed to be a lot of planets they were throwing. It doesnt say, but I would imagine with that many planets, they probably came from more than one galaxy. Just something to think about. Not necessarily sure though. Might have been a big galaxy.

golem370
In the prep does the Celestial in and prepare to fight Thanos? If Celestial is ready for the fight they will win imo

zopzop
Originally posted by tkitna
I never bothered to break down the physics or logic behind it. It just looked cool to me, but I understand where your coming from.

Also, there seemed to be a lot of planets they were throwing. It doesnt say, but I would imagine with that many planets, they probably came from more than one galaxy. Just something to think about. Not necessarily sure though. Might have been a big galaxy.
A solar system like ours had about 8 planets (excluding Pluto). There are billions of solar systems in a single galaxy.



It was a horrifically low showing for them sad

abhilegend
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
"So you are just making scenarios where Thanos does this and that and somehow wins?"
No, another user asked me how Thanos would defeat a Celestial using prep, I created several possible scenarios as to how it could be done. This is after I listed several points about him defeating greater entities with prep.

Like who?



Are you sure? Thanos wasn't even able to get up without struggling for one page and later admitted that Odin defeated him.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/28735299_2586626-warlock_25_34.jpg

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/28735173_thanos01.jpg

It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands.



Seriously? What is this?

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/28735286_2586609-warlock_25_20.jpg

And Thanos is using his force field in the first panel.



Yes, Thanos was really trying to calm Odin down with those energy attacks. GTFO.



Incorrect, Thanos wasn't even hurt against Tyrant. Against Odin, he literally got his shit kicked in.



And a lot of prep. The blasts wouldn't have done much against Galactus.




Because Thanos is an idiot. Did you see him against Doom? Such a prep master.



That's not helpful for Thanos. He had specefic shields for Galactus and still got shit blasted out of him.



Because Hunger was an idiot. Galactus as well.

That's what happens when you are in a Starlin comic and are not Thanos.



Of course it is. Thanos got the upgrades and still got his shit pushed in against Ultimates of all people.

Thanos lost against Odin. Get over it.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like who?



Are you sure? Thanos wasn't even able to get up without struggling for one page and later admitted that Odin defeated him.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/28735299_2586626-warlock_25_34.jpg

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/28735173_thanos01.jpg

It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands.



Seriously? What is this?

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/28735286_2586609-warlock_25_20.jpg

And Thanos is using his force field in the first panel.



Yes, Thanos was really trying to calm Odin down with those energy attacks. GTFO.



Incorrect, Thanos wasn't even hurt against Tyrant. Against Odin, he literally got his shit kicked in.



And a lot of prep. The blasts wouldn't have done much against Galactus.




Because Thanos is an idiot. Did you see him against Doom? Such a prep master.



That's not helpful for Thanos. He had specefic shields for Galactus and still got shit blasted out of him.



Because Hunger was an idiot. Galactus as well.

That's what happens when you are in a Starlin comic and are not Thanos.



Of course it is. Thanos got the upgrades and still got his shit pushed in against Ultimates of all people.

Thanos lost against Odin. Get over it.

Bobandjim1260
"Like who?"
Galactus, The hunger, Omega, Magus with the IG, Akhenaten, and recently Mephisto and Annihilus using Adam Warlock's power. A power that was used to kill Galactus and all the Celestials,


"Are you sure? Thanos wasn't even able to get up without struggling for one page and later admitted that Odin defeated him."
I'm positive, there have been many instances where Thanos has struggled to gather compusure after an attack. http://s12.postimg.org/7f0inst5p/tvsa4.jpg
He ended up beating Annihilus.

"It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands." All Thanosi, as stated in Infinity Abyss, were defective versions of himself. Also, I never once stated that Thanos had the upper hand in the battle. I stated that if the battle had continued, Odin with the extent of Odin force would have won. What I did state was that the battle was not a good indicator of each foe trying their hardest to beat each other. Odin did have the upper hand.......in a battle where Thanos wasn't trying to kill his opponent where the opposite is true.

"Seriously? What is this?"
http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2382776-warlock_25_22.jpg (The next page)
It's the very beginning of the fight......where Odin blasted Surfer out of the fight.

"And Thanos is using his force field in the first panel." That wasn't his force field. His personal force fields look like this.
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo45/aarons24/thanos/energy8qa2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ESmmjgn.jpg
If it doesn't say or look like he's using his personal force fields which appear as bubbles around him), then he probably isn't using it.

"Yes, Thanos was really trying to calm Odin down with those energy attacks. GTFO."

Why would Thanos try to harm and or kill the person they came to asgard to get help from?
Odin saw his son being brought to Asgard imprisoned in a block of pure force. the comic makes it very evident why Thanos was fighting Odin.
So you blatantly ignore the comic itself, even after i posted the scans where it specifically says Exactly what i'm saying?

may I ask why you disagree with my interpretation of the Odin/ Thanos fight? I don't feel it's an interpretation as much as it is what really happened.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...rlock_25_19.jpg
Adam "Odin! We come not in..."
Thanos "Forget reasoning with this pompous buffoon, Warlock."
Thanos "Explanations can only come after we have gained Odin's undivided attention"
Odin "There is no way to talk yourself out of this situation, villain!"
Surfer "I see what you mean"

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...rlock_25_23.jpg

Moondragon "This entire enterprise has gone sour Adam! We came here to get Odin's aid in curing Thor's insanity, not start a war with Asgard."
Adam" Be it my fault Odin misunderstood our intetnions and never gave us the chance to explain?"

http://static9.comicvine.com/upload...rlock_25_24.jpg
There is a lot to quote there, but it's basically Odin talking about how he is going to make sure Thanos is dead by the end of the battle. This scan even shows Thanos's blast staggering Odin.

http://static8.comicvine.com/upload...rlock_25_35.jpg
Here, everything is explained.

"Incorrect, Thanos wasn't even hurt against Tyrant. Against Odin, he literally got his shit kicked in.'

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Tyrant/thetyrantvsthanosbattle5.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1057396-tyrant5.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1057392-tyrant2.jpg

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/marvel%20universe/Tyrant/thetyrantvsthanosbattle7.jpg

The actual scans will have to disagree with you there. Tyrant blasted Thanos around even when he had the orb with the power of Morg. He had his armor blasted off.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49974/3694779-2448409-1017185_warlock_25_34_super.jpg
There is almost no damage done to him here. Again, Thanos fled Tyrant after getting what he wanted out of him.
http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1017176-warlock_25_35.jpg
This scan shows Thanos, charged up and ready to go. However, he no longer needed to because he had succeeded in calming Odin down.

"And a lot of prep. The blasts wouldn't have done much against Galactus."
He did not have a lot of prep. He arrived on the Rigellian home world to repay the destruction he caused them by aiding them in whatever they needed. The planet had Galactus on it. Thanos realized something was off about the situation and constructed a plan. Galactus figured out that Thanos was up to something after Moondragon provided a telepathic link up. Galactus planned against Thanos. Thanos figured out that Galactus was being manipulated into letting he Hunger in.
The blast weren't meant to do anything to Galactus, they were meant to destroy his ship to stop him from opening the portal. So no, he didn't have "tons of prep", he had less than a day.

"Because Thanos is an idiot. Did you see him against Doom? Such a prep master."
Him using allies with special abilities instead of risking his own neck to to dangerous things makes him an idiot? He'd be an idiot not using them. Key word, using. Half the time he works with anyone they are just instruments in a grander scheme. With the lone acceptation of Adam Warlock. Also, Galactus has used allies in the past. He used Doctor Strange to help him find out the source of the Magus's signal, even though he could have built a device to do it himself. I feel it a little ridiculous to say that using allies to complete something faster is idiotic.

Doom wielded the power of the Beyonder. I've expressed many times how i feel about a few writers treat Thanos. Starlin is not the only one who writes him as he was created to be. Keith Giffen, Ron Marz, Dan Abnett and
Andy Lannin are all good examples. He is only appearing in these other comics because of his appearances in the MCU. However, that has nothing to to with the topic at hand.

"That's not helpful for Thanos. He had specefic shields for Galactus and still got shit blasted out of him."
He never had "specific shields" for Galactus. Those were merely his shields. Against a Celestial, it would be for a short while. It took blows from a fed Galactus, and a being two times as powerful as that (Omega). It could tank a blow from an average Celestial.

"Because Hunger was an idiot. Galactus as well.

That's what happens when you are in a Starlin comic and are not Thanos."

I wouldn't call a being who knew that in order to enter the universe, he had to trick a being whose drive and ability were up to the task of building the Focusing Crux fast enough so that he could enter the universe. He had to manipulate Galactus's own data and then bet his money on the fact that Galactus would be too arrogant to listen to anyone else. Something that has been the downfall of Galactus many times. After entering the Universe, he would use the power of the gems and Galactus's ship to devour enough power so that he wouldn't be stopped by a powerful creature right off the bat. Galactus was arrogant, not stupid. Galactus acted rash due to him finding out that the Infinity Gems would rid him of his hunger, something that has bothered Galactus since the beginning of his character. How was the Hunger supposed to know that Thanos was secretly plotting against it the entire time? Thanos had purposely made it look like he was fighting off Galactus so that the Hunger wouldn't expect any resistance when it was released? Not to mention, regardless of your opinion on Starlin comics, what happened has happened. There are many people who claim that everyone in a Starlin comic acts stupid around Thanos. I really haven't found this to be the case. Just because other characters can't outsmart Thanos does not then therefore imply that they're stupid. I've actually noticed that Starlin comics are typically where incredibly complex plots and plans are enacted by many heroes and villains.

" Of course it is. Thanos got the upgrades and still got his shit pushed in against Ultimates of all people.

Thanos lost against Odin. Get over it."

No, it's not. The evidence I pointed out above proves this. If you are referring to Civil War 2, then you should know two things. One, Thanos was weakened from the whole Secret Wars event. Two, the writer was Brian Michael Bendis, a writer infamous for his mistreatment of character personalities and established power levels. Three, Thanos getting captured was revealed to be part of his plan, as a new series is soon to be released. Not to mention, Odin was beaten by female Thor.
http://i.imgur.com/LFQ59Az.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nJjN570.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FP5nTL7.jpg
We can both find instances where the characters are jobbers. I feel it is best to stick to the actual debate at hand.

I also do not tolerate your attitude towards me. Your usage of words is disrespectful and unneeded. This is a debate about fictional characters. I will not respond to you if you continue to be rude.

Bobandjim1260
"It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands."



Also, I wouldn't be so hasty to assume Statements over feats and actual scans. For Example, here Thanos says he stood toe to toe with Galactus, which as we the readers can see is hardly the case. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/tvsa7.jpg
Not only is that a Thanosi, which again are imperfect replications of Thanos himself, we can hardly trust character statements as being accurate when they are discussing their interpretation of how a battle went down.

psycho gundam
Thanos can't beat a celestial. At best he can replicate his showing against galactus which was pretty good for a non-Devine powered character, like none of thanos' powerset crosses into the metaphysical as far as offense is concerned, at least nothing compared to the galactus vs Odin fight.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
may I ask why you disagree with my interpretation of the Odin/ Thanos fight? I don't feel it's an interpretation as much as it is what really happened.
You can feel whatever you want but the truth is Thanos barely survived that fight he was beaten near death. If Odin continued his assault instead of asking Thanos if he yields I'm 100% sure he would have died it was only a matter of time.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by iceman24567
You can feel whatever you want but the truth is Thanos barely survived that fight he was beaten near death. If Odin continued his assault instead of asking Thanos if he yields I'm 100% sure he would have died it was only a matter of time.

Okay, hold up. It's not how I feel about it, what I previously listed is what actually happened. Thanos wasn't nearly dead nor did he "get the shit beaten out of him". He didn't have the upper hand in the battle, and I've posted the motivations behind each character several times now. Would Thanos have won the battle had it been BOTH of them been trying to kill each other? No! I never once said that. But people claiming he beat Thanos to near death is an exaggeration of what happened. Thanos knows when he's done fighting. He has shown this with Tyrant, who did far more damage to Thanos than Odin did. On the next page it literally (as I have posted twice now) it literally shows Thanos getting ready to fight again.

Juntai
I highly doubt that Odin or a Celestial would get wrecked by Groot, Cap, Iron Fist and Hulk in like 8 punches.

If he had a ton of one sided prep, he could theoretically do some shit. Or more likely, do some shit and run away before he dies.

iceman24567
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
Okay, hold up. It's not how I feel about it, what I previously listed is what actually happened. Thanos wasn't nearly dead nor did he "get the shit beaten out of him". He didn't have the upper hand in the battle, and I've posted the motivations behind each character several times now. Would Thanos have won the battle had it been BOTH of them been trying to kill each other? No! I never once said that. But people claiming he beat Thanos to near death is an exaggeration of what happened. Thanos knows when he's done fighting. He has shown this with Tyrant, who did far more damage to Thanos than Odin did. On the next page it literally (as I have posted twice now) it literally shows Thanos getting ready to fight again. After Odin relented and gave Thanos time to recuperate. The man was sprawled out on the floor it took him time to stand up he struggled to get on his feet. If Odin were a crooked piece of shat he would have kill Thanos then and there without asking him if he gives up. This is why i say your interpretation is jacked up Odin literally had the uperhand considering Thanos was on his hand in knees like he was praying to his lord and savior which he really was look at him blinded by the awesome power that is Odin king of heatbutts!

abhilegend
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
"It was retconned as a Thanosi with Thanos' memories but the statement still stands."



Also, I wouldn't be so hasty to assume Statements over feats and actual scans. For Example, here Thanos says he stood toe to toe with Galactus, which as we the readers can see is hardly the case. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/tvsa7.jpg
Not only is that a Thanosi, which again are imperfect replications of Thanos himself, we can hardly trust character statements as being accurate when they are discussing their interpretation of how a battle went down.

But he didn't went toe to toe with Galactus. And Odin defeated him.

You are just generalizing as if all statements are false. That's not how it works.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Bobandjim1260
"Like who?"
Galactus, The hunger, Omega, Magus with the IG, Akhenaten, and recently Mephisto and Annihilus using Adam Warlock's power. A power that was used to kill Galactus and all the Celestials,

None of them on his own. Heck, Adam Warlock destroyed the universe when Annihilus has Thanos on his mercy.

Have you just read Thanos respect threads?



Are you blind? Where is Thanos struggling to get up there?



But Odin already won as stated. No extrapolation needed.



And you said it wasn't the case. Odin no sold the combined attack from Thanos and Surfer.



GTFO. Thanos' force field is in display there. The blast arches away from thanos just before it hits him.



Because he is an idiot and has a huge ego.



Where did you post anything about Thanos holding back or something like that?



Have you finished writing your fanfiction? When you are finished, let me know.



Haha, you are really buying all that bullshit?



That sounds so much hurt. Thanos blasted Tyrant around too. And was perfectly fine at the end of the fight.



facepalm



Hahaha, are you for real?




So in short a lot of prep.



The blast were not meant to do anything to him? Are you from bizarro world? Seriously?



Yes, it makes him an idiot. Glad you agree.

abhilegend
Haha, what an excuse. It has nothing to do with Thanos. Its all a fault of MCU!!!!



Yes, they were his specific shields. Against Omega he used his ship's shields as well.



My god, I have never seen someone actually buying this shit. Galactus was fooled from his own tech, didn't now how to operate his own tech, got humiliated everytime in the comic and couldn't even teleport away from two planets.

What complex plots? Blow this shit up?



Never happened.



That's some compelling proof. no really.



You mean where Odin has Jane by the throat at the end? Yeah, Jane did better than Thanos as well.



Cry me a river.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what an excuse. It has nothing to do with Thanos. Its all a fault of MCU!!!!



Yes, they were his specific shields. Against Omega he used his ship's shields as well.



My god, I have never seen someone actually buying this shit. Galactus was fooled from his own tech, didn't now how to operate his own tech, got humiliated everytime in the comic and couldn't even teleport away from two planets.

What complex plots? Blow this shit up?



Never happened.



That's some compelling proof. no really.



You mean where Odin has Jane by the throat at the end? Yeah, Jane did better than Thanos as well.



Cry me a river.
Yep, so you once again try to disprove actual facts from the comics with your opinion. I have now considered your opinion invalid and unworthy of any attention. Not only that, but you refused to lay back on your annoyingly rude attitude. I figured out after some research that this is normally how you post. You using abusive ad hominems against me is something I refuse to be a part of. I have disproven all of your statements against my claims, you retorted with insults and interpretations based on your opinion. For the remainder of my time on this site, I will ignore you and your annoying post. Congratulations.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by iceman24567
After Odin relented and gave Thanos time to recuperate. The man was sprawled out on the floor it took him time to stand up he struggled to get on his feet. If Odin were a crooked piece of shat he would have kill Thanos then and there without asking him if he gives up. This is why i say your interpretation is jacked up Odin literally had the uperhand considering Thanos was on his hand in knees like he was praying to his lord and savior which he really was look at him blinded by the awesome power that is Odin king of heatbutts!
Odin didn't strike him down because Odin is an honorable warrior. Saying that Odin could have killed him at that point is a little presumptuous. Odin admitted that Thanos was a worthy foe, so offering him a chance to admit defeat may have been a sign of mercy. Of course, Thanos stood back up in defiance indicating that he still had a fight left in him, proven by the next scan. This is similar to earlier in the battle when Odin thinks himself victorious before Thanos blast himself out of the rubble.
However, if that's how you wish to interpret it, so be it. I may disagree, and I have provided the evidence necessary to support my claim. But if you choose to interpret it a different way, then there is nothing left to discuss.

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by zopzop
It's not really impressive at all. Odin is a skyfather and he's busted galaxies. Here's a chart showing the relative size of the Sun to the Milky Way Galaxy :
http://s32.postimg.org/p67e8zs9t/wm_Sj5f_D.jpg

And keep in mind stars are much larger than planets :
http://s32.postimg.org/d1s4s0fdt/sun_etc.jpg

A galaxy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the sun. The sun >>>>>>>>>>> all those planets the Celestials hurled at Thanos.

It was actually a very LOW showing for them. Fair enough. Odin's galaxy busting feats would outmatch throwing planets at Thanos. However, it was only meant to be a distraction.

golem370
Originally posted by zopzop
A solar system like ours had about 8 planets (excluding Pluto). There are billions of solar systems in a single galaxy.



It was a horrifically low showing for them sad


I thought there more planets further out in the solar system at least I thought I saw on a show?

Bobandjim1260
Originally posted by golem370
I thought there more planets further out in the solar system at least I thought I saw on a show? Technically not, no. Pluto is a dwarf planet, and technically so would it's moon Charon. There is talk of a jovian planet on the outskirts of our solar system that is around the size of Neptune. There may also be a dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt.

iceman24567
Originally posted by golem370
I thought there more planets further out in the solar system at least I thought I saw on a show? Those are dwarf planets and minor planets

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