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The Ancient Sith return from the grave to destroy the usurpers. They storm the Korriban Sith Academy filled with the best.

They attack from surprise. Academy operates normally, Ancient Sith attack from entrance.

One Sith defenders
- Darth Krayt
- Darth Wyrlock
- Darth Talon
- Darth Nihl
- Darth Havock
- Saarai
- Darth Stryfe
- Darth Azard
- Darth Maleval
- Darth Maladi
- Darth Kruhl
- 20 "Sith troopers"
- 50 fodder Sith Lords (like Sith from this http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ambush_on_Daluuj )

Ancient Sith attackers
- Ajunta Pall
- Karness Muur
- Remulus Dreypa
- Marka Ragnos
- Ludo Kressh
- Naga Shadow
- Freedon Nadd
- Exar Kun
- 3 Terentateks

Ancients slaughter, LMAO.

Yeah, Ancients.

Kun takes Krayt, and besides that, Ragnos and Muur are here, so Wyyrlok is done, Ragnos takes Wyyrlok for a vast majority, and Muur should take him for a slight majority.

Then everyone else gets taken out in short order, there isn't a thing the rest of Krayt's forces could do besides hold them off and try to escape, because if they don't, they'll all die.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yeah, Ancients.

Kun takes Krayt, and besides that, Ragnos and Muur are here, so Wyyrlok is done, Ragnos takes Wyyrlok for a vast majority, and Muur should take him for a slight majority.

Then everyone else gets taken out in short order, there isn't a thing the rest of Krayt's forces could do besides hold them off and try to escape, because if they don't, they'll all die.

They do have the 20 sith troopers and 50 fodder sith to throw into the fray. 20 Sith Troopers is a considerable force, and can be used to bog down and tire out stronger foes- remember, despite what one may think from the name 'Trooper,' they are high force-potential individuals with cybernetic enhancements and built-in weaponry, who we saw doing well against Jedi Masters. Even 50 normals is a time pit and good meat shield, too.


I mean, there's only 8 Ancients (+ 3 Terentateks, which barely matter since 2-3 jedi could beat them. Kruhl and Maleval and a handful of the Fodder can handle them), vs 11 Named sith, 20 Troopers, 50 fooder.

Absolutely no fights will be one-on-one, or even close. Kun vs Krayt is a good fight, Kun vs Krayt and 6 Sith Troopers solidly goes to Krayt and leave him in good shape for a repeat vs someone else.


Wyyrlok and Maladi can cast dual-sorcery behind a wall of meat to target the weakest ancients and take them down, or at least tie up all their defenses and leave them vulnerable to someone else doing the kill, without any important casualties. Ludo can't block both of them and get to them at the same time.

Nihl and Talon can get backshots against Ancients carving their way through a dozen normal sith- it's part of a Hand's assassin training.

Bump on the grounds I find this an interesting one

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Ancients slaughter, LMAO.

By which I meant 'I'd like to hear actual arguments.'

Sith Trooper are strong to the point that not only do they mulch normal sith warriors, but they also were able to put up a fight against a somewhat-tired Cade. They never get tired and are effective against master-level foes.

Similarly, 50 is just simply a lot of basic sith, enough to keep a few ancients focused on just slaughtering them for awhile allowing Krayt+ backup to get some 3 v 1 kills against the ancients in.

one sith

Ancient Sith without much difficulty. Wyyrlock and Krayt are really the only two threats here, and they're severely outnumbered.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Ancient Sith without much difficulty. Wyyrlock and Krayt are really the only two threats here, and they're severely outnumbered.


The numbers are 81 to 11. And 3 of those 11 are weaker than a sith trooper. 8 to 1. Sure, only two of the 81 are individual threats, but when there are 81 foes, they don't have to be.

Even Darth Plagueis got his throat cut from 30 assassins, no named foes at all, and Ludo Kressh and Dreypa aren't Plagueis.


See, this is what I mean in the underrated thread about 'anyone without a name,' being underrated.

We have *seen* Sith Troopers kill masters and even get Cade Skywalker fairly tired.

We've also seen Nihl kill Kol Skywalker with a half-dozen normal sith plus a pile of stormtroopers.


Yes, Wyyrlok and Krayt are the only individual threats. But the other ranking One Sith ganging up (which they will be able to do in every encounter), *while*


Krayt and Wyyrlok don't even need to beat their foes one on one. Anyone who'd be a tough fight for Krayt solo, is a lot less so when the opponent has to deal with being stabbed in the back by other sith at the same time, and someone trying to TK their heart at the same time. Which even Saarai can do.

Remember how Darth Krayt died- he was stabbed in the back by an Imperial Knight (a reasonably formidable one, but probably at or below Azard's level) while engaging in a huge lighting duel with Muur. High level people can and do die to being stabbed in the back. Also remember what Muur said when Maladi helped Krayt a little- "'gainst Krayt you were going to fall, but with help you're not even going to last long,' basically.


And even if they block and defend against all those side attacks? Well, then they're distracted from the big threat in front of them.

Darth Krayt is almost certainly going to get multiple kills because he'll not be involved in 1v1 fights, but several 5v1s where someone who would be formidable one-on-one has to deal with him, Maladi, and a couple people trying to stab the foe in the back.

Wyyrlok, similarly, is going to get kills because he's going to fight with Saarai, who's going to TK grab their target's heart, while they also have some normal sith attacking him so he can't even focus on sorcery defense.


And meanwhile, some Ancient is going to be held off by 2-3 of the high ranking council-level foes... who are throwing meat shields in the way too, because Havok and Azard don't need to win against someone, they just need to keep 'em busy til Krayt and Wyyrlok have dropped one or two each.


Everyone ancient is going to be badly outnumbered because there's 21 *named* foes, over 2-1 just there, 20 *formidable* addition no-names, 4.5 to 1, and 50 normal but still distracting and time consuming and forcing ancient sith to hack them down instead of doing anything important.