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*TFU Galen*
*TFU II Starkiller*
*Revan as of The 'Revan' novel*
*SoR Revan*

- Standard gear.
- In character; morals are on.
- Combatants start 10 meters away
- Fight takes place on Endor

1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

10/10 original thread.

Ikr?

Galen and Starkiller.

The Revans.

Why.

Originally posted by RHaggis
The Revans.

Originally posted by RHaggis
The Revans.

mmm

Edit: The damn smiley won't work!

The Revans.

As for one of many comparisons that could be made in their favor. Vitiate's lightning >>> Galen/Starkiller's

Another is that the Galen's aren't TK-ing Revan to any great effect.

Lastly, Revan knows of techniques Galen likely has no way of countering or likely has never heard of. IE: Drain.

Is it? What has Vitiate accomplished with his lightning that's better then Galen or Starkiller's own feats?

If that were the case why didn't Sidious use drain on Galen in their when they were engaged in a "desperate" force lock.

Originally posted by Syndicate
If that were the case why didn't Sidious use drain on Galen in their when they were engaged in a "desperate" force lock.
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Do you have an answer Vixas?

Honestly? Why does any character in Star Wars not use the one+ ability we know as outside observers to be "super effective"/unexpected against their adversary? You would have to ask Sidious himself my friend.

Apologies for the delay, I'm bouncing between tabs and TV at the moment. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this though ^^

Originally posted by Vixas
Honestly? Why does any character in Star Wars not use the one+ ability we know as outside observers to be "super effective"/unexpected against their adversary? You would have to ask Sidious himself my friend.

Apologies for the delay, I'm bouncing between tabs and TV at the moment. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this though ^^ You seem nice let's be friends

mmm

Originally posted by Vixas
Honestly? Why does any character in Star Wars not use the one+ ability we know as outside observers to be "super effective"/unexpected against their adversary? You would have to ask Sidious himself my friend.

Apologies for the delay, I'm bouncing between tabs and TV at the moment. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this though ^^

No problem. We haven't had a real discussion on KMC for a long time and alot of people on here are unable to handle one without taking them personally.

Unfortunately saying a character didn't do it because they forgot isn't valid from a logical standpoint. We have to assume that Sidious would have done it if he was capable of such and that since he didn't he felt it would not have served him as well in combat then simply engaging Marek in a force lock as he did.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
You seem nice let's be friends

Always happy to make new friends. Especially a King no less.

They all die from being trash.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Unfortunately saying a character didn't do it because they forgot isn't valid from a logical standpoint. We have to assume that Sidious would have done it if he was capable of such and that since he didn't he felt it would not have served him as well in combat then simply engaging Marek in a force lock as he did.
Uh, no.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Uh, no.

Well now my friend you are ignoring some context. Sidious was already shocking Kota which galen stepped INTO willingly. Sidious didn't have much a choice as far as that was concerned. Then, coupled with seeing the rebel leaders getting away, well... when under pressure not all options suddenly appear to you like a list of choices in a video game, time does not stop, you are not given the luxury of cherry-picking how to deal with something.

Wrong quote?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Is it? What has Vitiate accomplished with his lightning that's better then Galen or Starkiller's own feats?

If that were the case why didn't Sidious use drain on Galen in their when they were engaged in a "desperate" force lock.

It is described as 'infinitely' more powerful than Darth Nyriss' Force Lightning Storm which would've incinerated the Jedi Exile Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge. Meetra has tanked Force lightning from Atris and Traya, Lord Scourge has tanked Darth Xedrix's Force Lightning Storm. Now 'infinitely' is obvious hyperbole, but the point remains, Nyriss' strongest lightning storm is nothing compared to Vitiate's.

Revan reborn was capable of absorbing enough of Vitiate's lightning to survive and then heal the crippling damage he suffered from the excess. SOR Revan is a lot more powerful than Revan reborn.

Originally posted by Vixas
Well now my friend you are ignoring some context. Sidious was already shocking Kota which galen stepped INTO willingly. Sidious didn't have much a choice as far as that was concerned. Then, coupled with seeing the rebel leaders getting away, well... when under pressure not all options suddenly appear to you like a list of choices in a video game, time does not stop, you are not given the luxury of cherry-picking how to deal with something.

Fair point but that would imply that Galen approaches Sidious in power to the point that he would be unable to match him in their Force lock AND drain him simultaneously, correct?

Or Palpatine didn't see the need to drain him?

Originally posted by Vixas
Always happy to make new friends. Especially a King no less. http://img.pandawhale.com/121195-Littlefinger-cheers-gif-Imgur-uKnT.gif

Originally posted by AncientPower
It is described as 'infinitely' more powerful than Darth Nyriss' Force Lightning Storm which would've incinerated the Jedi Exile Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge. Meetra has tanked Force lightning from Atris and Traya, Lord Scourge has tanked Darth Xedrix's Force Lightning Storm. Now 'infinitely' is obvious hyperbole, but the point remains, Nyriss' strongest lightning storm is nothing compared to Vitiate's.

Revan reborn was capable of absorbing enough of Vitiate's lightning to survive and then heal the crippling damage he suffered from the excess. SOR Revan is a lot more powerful than Revan reborn.

It would have done so on a DS nexus where Meetra was being weakened and Nyriss strengthened ( Scourge was apparently Meetra's equal when both were on Dromund Kaas. Galen's lightning being capable of powering the hyperdrive of a freighter and a machine that pierced the hull of an ISD seems to be "infinitely" more powerful then lightning Nyriss is capable of employing on neutral ground.

Granted Reborn Revan may be capable of absorbing Galen or Starkiller's lightning but SoR Revan should be weaker then Reborn Revan given his spirit has been separated.

Zzzz...

Ah sorry Ant xD As noted, I am.. distracted. Anyways, Sindicate I see your point. It's less Palpatine is UNABLE, though I am sure there are folks who would debate thus, but I am currently not. All I am advocating for is that the situation merely made the idea not occur to him, especially taking into account he was already utilizing his force lightning.

Originally posted by Vixas
Ah sorry Ant xD As noted, I am.. distracted. Anyways, Sindicate I see your point. It's less Palpatine is UNABLE, though I am sure there are folks who would debate thus, but I am currently not. All I am advocating for is that the situation merely made the idea not occur to him, especially taking into account he was already utilizing his force lightning.

Sidious doesn't seem like the type of being to up and forget to use an ability he was capable of employing to help win a desperate struggle.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Given he was in a desperate struggle I'd imagine he would have tried anything that would have allowed him a better chance at victory. That's what being desperate implies.
He was desperate because Marek literally touched Palpatine, thus making his own lightning course back into him. It had little to do with Marek's power.

Does anyone know how to place someone else on ignore?

^ Not to mention the rebel leaders were escaping right before his eyes.

Originally posted by Syndicate
It would have done so on a DS nexus where Meetra was being weakened and Nyriss strengthened ( Scourge was apparently Meetra's equal when both were on Dromund Kaas. Galen's lightning being capable of powering the hyperdrive of a freighter and a machine that pierced the hull of an ISD seems to be "infinitely" more powerful then lightning Nyriss is capable of employing on neutral ground.
Which isn't relevant since Revan fought Vitiate on a nexus anyway.

Originally posted by Vixas
^ Not to mention the rebel leaders were escaping right before his eyes.

Yes, exactly. So if he was capable of simply overwhelming Galen and the Rebels simultaneously it's only logical that he would have done it. Considering the text in the novel though it makes it pretty clear that Sidious is incapable of doing this while Galen is matching him which is why Vader arrives with a squadron of stormtroopers to gun down Juno and the Rebels.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Does anyone know how to place someone else on ignore?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Yes, exactly. So if he was capable of simply overwhelming Galen and the Rebels simultaneously it's only logical that he would have done it. Considering the text in the novel though it makes it pretty clear that Sidious is incapable of doing this while Galen is matching him which is why Vader arrives with a squadron of stormtroopers to gun down Juno and the Rebels.

I do hope it's not me you wish to place on ignore.

It's not - don't worry.

Originally posted by Vixas
I do hope it's not me you wish to place on ignore.

No, not you. I wanted to ignore someone who's an insect, an ant really. Nobody for you to worry your head over.

Wait, what? Why is Syndicate talking about Force Drain?

Yes, I'm asking because I couldn't be bothered to check the first page. Deal with it, scrubs.

He's arguing that Palpatine not using Force drain on Galen Marek suggests that it would be ineffective against him, and thus Revan using it wouldn't influence the fight.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Wait, what? Why is Syndicate talking about Force Drain?

Yes, I'm asking because I couldn't be bothered to check the first page. Deal with it, scrubs.

There are claims being made that Galen is incapable of defending against Force Drain as he's never demonstrated defending against such a technique.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Wait, what? Why is Syndicate talking about Force Drain?

Yes, I'm asking because I couldn't be bothered to check the first page. Deal with it, scrubs.

I was listing advantages Revan had over Galen. Drain came up. Syndicate asked why palps didn'y drain him during the end of TFU I; Is currently implying he lacked the strength to hold the lock with Galen and drain him.

Galen didn't get drained because he was too busy getting fried.

But the real answer is that drain is an ability that you would rarely see applied successfully in heated combat.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Galen didn't get drained because he was too busy getting fried.

But the real answer is that drain is an ability that you would rarely see applied successfully in heated combat.

Is it something that requires prep? Didn't Traya do it instantaneously against the CM's?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Is it something that requires prep? Didn't Traya do it instantaneously against the CM's?

I think he's referring to that part of combat where you know you're going to fry the other guy, and don't see the point.

Except Sidious was locked in a desperate struggle against Galen that didn't end until stormtroopers pointed their guns on Juno and the Rebels and Galen actively lowered his defenses to create an explosion that would allow them to escape. It didn't seem like Sidious was at all certain of the outcome or if he was certain that he would have taken his time frying Galen when the Rebels were still free and about to board the Rogue Shadow and escape.

Vixas, you don't have to entertain a discussion with Syndicate.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vixas, you don't have to entertain a discussion with Syndicate.

Come now Ant, I haven't actually had much of an actual debate on here yet. Short of making Beni concede on some points. Usually I make a statement and shortly after the thread derails. I appreciate the... concern though.

Or, ya know, maybe Palpatine just doesn't use drain in combat?

Or maybe he just neglected to do so there?

I'm not going to buy into "Galen has resistance against drain because Sidious didn't use it against him" argument.

Given Sidious knew the extent of Galen's knowledge as he was the one who had him trained it seems to strange to me that he wouldn't have employed it against him if it was just an instawin ability Galen was incapable of defending against, especially with the Rebels freed and about to board a ship and escape. That may just be me though.

You don't have to if you don't want. That's the great thing about internet forums. Nobody can force you to do anything.

Well, I'm off for the night. We can continue this tomorrow Vixas.

The same way Vader let's shitty Jedi dance around him, when he could just rape them with the Force - it's Star Wars, and that's just how shit goes. Pragmatic approaches is not always a route they choose to partake in.

I'm not going to jump to conclusion, and pull shit outta my ass crack, for the sake of arguing in favor of a character I wank.

Perhaps he simply wants to test and hone his skills against these Jedi? And when he is getting beaten perhaps he simply is incapable of defeating them with a Force attack because they are skilled/fast enough to pressure him so that he needs to focus on defending himself in lightsaber combat.

You don't have to but to assume general competence is reasonable I feel and the approach I try to take.

Alright, for real, good night guys.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Well, I'm off for the night. We can continue this tomorrow Vixas.

As you wish. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with you, as I do think Galen pushed Sidious a bit more than most give him credit for. However, the notion that since Galen matched Sidious to the point he COULDN'T drain him equating to Galen having drain resistance is incorrect.

And sure, Sidious over-saw his training, and gave Galen access to absolutely all his knowledge and especially one as tricky in the SW mythos as drain, which the Jedi he would be hunting would not even use. Sarcasm by the by but I am sure you see the point.

Originally posted by AncientPower
It is described as 'infinitely' more powerful than Darth Nyriss' Force Lightning Storm which would've incinerated the Jedi Exile Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge. Meetra has tanked Force lightning from Atris and Traya, Lord Scourge has tanked Darth Xedrix's Force Lightning Storm. Now 'infinitely' is obvious hyperbole, but the point remains, Nyriss' strongest lightning storm is nothing compared to Vitiate's.

Revan reborn was capable of absorbing enough of Vitiate's lightning to survive and then heal the crippling damage he suffered from the excess. SOR Revan is a lot more powerful than Revan reborn.

Maybe I'm wrong but didn't you argue at one point that Meetra was weaker than she was when she fought Traya in KOTOR 2? If Meetra lost quite a bit of power since then why is her tanking Traya's lightning relevant? It's possible Traya's lightning might be able to incinerate her too at this point in time. Maybe I'm mistaken and you weren't the one who made this argument. I could be getting you confused with someone else.

Does my username read Selenial? Because you're definitely referring to the wrong person.

Can we all stop pretending Galen wasn't in a clear moment of oneness/focus and still died attempting to absorb Palpatine's lightning?

Originally posted by Vixas
As you wish. I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with you, as I do think Galen pushed Sidious a bit more than most give him credit for. However, the notion that since Galen matched Sidious to the point he COULDN'T drain him equating to Galen having drain resistance is incorrect.

And sure, Sidious over-saw his training, and gave Galen access to absolutely all his knowledge and especially one as tricky in the SW mythos as drain, which the Jedi he would be hunting would not even use. Sarcasm by the by but I am sure you see the point.

I find it to be a better conclusion then Sidious simply forgetting.

I think you misunderstood my point. I'm saying Sidious knew the weaknesses in Galen's training as he was the one to have essentially overseen it. If Galen had some sort of weakness to Force drain you think that would have been the first ability Sidious employed on him when things started getting serious.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Can we all stop pretending Galen wasn't in a clear moment of oneness/focus and still died attempting to absorb Palpatine's lightning?

AP you've missed out on a lot. The Oneness you're referring to only takes place when he is building up a force blast that will allow Juno and the Rebels to escape. When Galen is engaging Sidious in a force lock he is in his normal state. Galen actively lowers his defenses before entering said moment of Oneness which is why he ultimately died.

Would you like the quotes?

So looks like everyone except Syndicate thinks the Revans take it.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I find it to be a better conclusion then Sidious simply forgetting.

I think you misunderstood my point. I'm saying Sidious knew the weaknesses in Galen's training as he was the one to have essentially overseen it. If Galen had some sort of weakness to Force drain you think that would have been the first ability Sidious employed on him when things started getting serious.

To your first point, given that it is truly what the original focus of this was, let's go back to that. It's not so much Sidious outright forgetting that Galen can't defend against it, but that he's more mentally pre-occupied with the escaping rebel leaders, Galen stepping willingly into his lightning. Which, let's also be honest here, was probably at least a bit shocking to someone who kills swathes of people with it easily. And then that person you oversaw the training of from a child suddenly giving you a bit more trouble than you bargained for.

Once more, Palpatine not using drain on Galen when Galen forced a force battle with his lightning =/= Galen having drain resistance. That, coupled with Galen's role as a Jedi hunter and being seen as expendable no way implies he would ever have been given knowledge of drain defense. As the Jedi would not use it and it's a fairly potent ability even Vader has limits as to his resistance to it.

Originally posted by Vixas
To your first point, given that it is truly what the original focus of this was, let's go back to that. It's not so much Sidious outright forgetting that Galen can't defend against it, but that he's more mentally pre-occupied with the escaping rebel leaders, Galen stepping willingly into his lightning. Which, let's also be honest here, was probably at least a bit shocking to someone who kills swathes of people with it easily. And then that person you oversaw the training of from a child suddenly giving you a bit more trouble than you bargained for.

Once more, Palpatine not using drain on Galen when Galen forced a force battle with his lightning =/= Galen having drain resistance. That, coupled with Galen's role as a Jedi hunter and being seen as expendable no way implies he would ever have been given knowledge of drain defense. As the Jedi would not use it and it's a fairly potent ability even Vader has limits as to his resistance to it.

If he was worried about the Rebels leaders escaping you think he would understand that defeating Galen was the quickest way to stop that. I just don't believe Sidious is the type of person to be shocked out of realizing his options.

Fair enough and I'm not saying Galen WAS taught to defend against it. I simply believe that attempting to drain individuals approaching your level isn't an effective way to defeat them hence Sidious not attempting to drain either Talzin or Yoda but instead engaging them in a force lock similarly to how he did Galen.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So looks like everyone except Syndicate thinks the Revans take it.

Originally posted by Syndicate
If he was worried about the Rebels leaders escaping you think he would understand that defeating Galen was the quickest way to stop that. I just don't believe Sidious is the type of person to be shocked out of realizing his options.

Fair enough and I'm not saying Galen WAS taught to defend against it. I simply believe that attempting to drain individuals approaching your level isn't an effective way to defeat them hence Sidious not attempting to drain either Talzin or Yoda but instead engaging them in a force lock similarly to how he did Galen.

Of course, defeating Galen, whom he probably assumed he would roll over with lightning. This is where I meant I agree with you in that Galen likely pushed Sidious a bit more than most think, else sidious would have rolled him to stop the rebels escaping.

To the second point, I think it would depend on the individual. Talzin MAY have had a defense counter to it, and as far as Yoda is concerned I am willing to give the Grandmaster the benefit of the doubt but it's by no means a solid, 110% I believe/know he has/had a defense. I would raise as a counter-point, however, that unless I am mistaken in KOTOR 2 Nihilus drains Traya, the person who taught him the ability and someone near his level at the time, to great effect because Traya belived there was no defense against it, thus she obviously did not have one, same as Starkiller/Galen.

Originally posted by Vixas
Of course, defeating Galen, whom he probably assumed he would roll over with lightning. This is where I meant I agree with you in that Galen likely pushed Sidious a bit more than most think, else sidious would have rolled him to stop the rebels escaping.

To the second point, I think it would depend on the individual. Talzin MAY have had a defense counter to it, and as far as Yoda is concerned I am willing to give the Grandmaster the benefit of the doubt but it's by no means a solid, 110% I believe/know he has/had a defense. I would raise as a counter-point, however, that unless I am mistaken in KOTOR 2 Nihilus drains Traya, the person who taught him the ability and someone near his level at the time, to great effect because Traya belived there was no defense against it, thus she obviously did not have one, same as Starkiller/Galen.



I'd have to disagree with that example as Nihilus is far more powerful then Traya even as of his origins.

Going to the library. We can get into the Nihilus/Traya comparisons when I get back.

Originally posted by Syndicate


I'd have to disagree with that example as Nihilus is far more powerful then Traya even as of his origins.

More powerful? Sure. Enough to utterly stomp, no questions asked and leave Traya as nothing more than a red streak on Malachor's surface... not so much.

Originally posted by Vixas
More powerful? Sure. Enough to utterly stomp, no questions asked and leave Traya as nothing more than a red streak on Malachor's surface... not so much.

I believe there's a quote saying Nihilus utterly dominated her on the Trayus Academy. Let me ask AP if he has it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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THAT WORKS ON THIS FORUM TOO?

Why the **** did no one tell me mmm

Topic: Revan duo

Originally posted by Syndicate
Galen's lightning being capable of powering the hyperdrive of a freighter and a machine that pierced the hull of an ISD seems to be "infinitely" more powerful then lightning Nyriss is capable of employing on neutral ground.
And how would you know that?

We don't have examples of Darth Nyriss utilizing Force Lightning to affect inanimate objects.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Topic: Revan duo


And how would you know that?

We don't have examples of Darth Nyriss utilizing Force Lightning to affect inanimate objects.

Breaking the force shields of a weakened Meetra seems to be less impressive then powering a machine capable of piercing the hull of an Imperial Star Destroyer. And that's not even Galen at his prime.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Breaking the force shields of a weakened Meetra seems to be less impressive then powering a machine capable of piercing the hull of an Imperial Star Destroyer. And that's not even Galen at his prime.
Machines (and inanimate objects) are not designed to withstand Force powers unless specified otherwise. That machine did the heavy work; Galen Marek simply charged it. Your analogy is poor.

While the intensity of Force Lightning varies from wielder to wielder, it is deadly to electronics in general, and powerful bursts are known to breach Jedi defenses, disintegrate structures (including a Lightsaber), overwhelm gigantic beasts and vaporize living tissue.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Machines (and inanimate objects) are not designed to withstand Force powers unless specified otherwise. That machine did the heavy work; Galen Marek simply charged it. Your analogy is poor.

While the intensity of Force Lightning varies from wielder to wielder, it is deadly to electronics in general, and powerful bursts are known to breach Jedi defenses, disintegrate structures (including a Lightsaber), overwhelm gigantic beasts and vaporize living tissue.

I'm not comparing affecting an inanimate object with affecting a force created obstacle. At least not on the basis of the subjects in question.

I'm comparing the energy it took to break through Meetra's force shield to the energy it took to power said machine.

Yes, and? What does that have to do with the potency of the lightning we're comparing?

Originally posted by Syndicate
I'm not comparing affecting an inanimate object with affecting a force created obstacle. At least not on the basis of the subjects in question.

I'm comparing the energy it took to break through Meetra's force shield to the energy it took to power said machine.

Yes, and? What does that have to do with the potency of the lightning we're comparing?
And how would you know that energy needed to power said machine was greater than the energy needed to overwhelm defenses of a powerful Jedi?

Nothing implies that the said machine was resistant to Force Lightning. I don't see a basis to assume that an extremely powerful burst of Force Lightning was needed to power the said machine when resistance was not a factor in this scenario.

On the other hand, Meetra Surik had defenses against Force Lightning. And Darth Nyriss had to exert much more to overwhelm her defenses because her normal bursts were not getting through.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And how would you know that energy needed to power said machine was greater than the energy needed to overwhelm defenses of a powerful Jedi?

Nothing implies that the said machine was resistant to Force Lightning. I don't see a basis to assume that an extremely powerful burst of Force Lightning was needed to power the said machine when resistance was not a factor in this scenario.

On the other hand, Meetra Surik had defenses against Force Lightning. And Darth Nyriss had to exert much more to overwhelm her defenses because her normal bursts were not getting through.

By looking at her accomplishments and scaling.

Given the blast that was shot out from the machine was the result of Galen's lightning being pumped into it we know the lightning's power had equivalent energy to the blast itself.

Nyriss hit Meetra/Scourge with lightning in that fight? Can you quote that for me?

Well, actually, Nyriss hit Meetra with a singular bolt of lightning, which tore through Meetra's force barrier and knocked her on her ass. Because Nyriss' lightning is that powerful. And Revan "easily" blocked a much more powerful blast of lightning from her.

Galen's lightning isn't doing shit here.

Whyever not?

Syn's hit a new low, lmfao.

What's next? 'Killer can hurt Revsn with TP?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, actually, Nyriss hit Meetra with a singular bolt of lightning, which tore through Meetra's force barrier and knocked her on her ass. Because Nyriss' lightning is that powerful. And Revan "easily" blocked a much more powerful blast of lightning from her.

Galen's lightning isn't doing shit here. Erm...

http://i.imgur.com/SYQrIJ7.jpg

Get dunked.

I recall Palpatine laughing in the next panel.

Cause he's a masochist, yeah.

So the lightning didn't really do shit to Palpatine?

Revan was able to knock back a bolt of lightning at Vitiate that knocked him on his ass.

Galen's lightning ain't doing shit here.

It destroyed his potent Force barriers, Syn will explain. uhuh

I think I'm done. None of you guys really care about what I'm saying. It's all a big joke to you because you think your way of debating this fictional universe is so far superior to my own and that your stances are so much better. Well, that may be but I unlike a lot of you I haven't invested my my life into this site and I don't base my self value on how well respected I am on KMC.

Think what you want. If you ever want to actually discuss this then I'm open to doing so but until then, go f*ck yourself.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It destroyed his potent Force barriers, Syn will explain. uhuh

You too Beni.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I think I'm done. None of you guys really care about what I'm saying. It's all a big joke to you because you think your way of debating this fictional universe is so far superior to my own and that your stances are so much better. Well, that may be but I unlike a lot of you I haven't invested my my life into this site and I don't base my self value on how well respected I am on KMC.

Think what you want. If you ever want to actually discuss this then I'm open to doing so but until then, go f*ck yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M&t=0m27s

Originally posted by Syndicate
I'm open to doing so but until then, go f*ck yourself.

Reported to swearing at me. I can't operate under such a hostile environment.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I think I'm done. None of you guys really care about what I'm saying. It's all a big joke to you because you think your way of debating this fictional universe is so far superior to my own and that your stances are so much better. Well, that may be but I unlike a lot of you I haven't invested my my life into this site and I don't base my self value on how well respected I am on KMC.

Think what you want. If you ever want to actually discuss this then I'm open to doing so but until then, go f*ck yourself. Originally posted by Syndicate
You too Beni.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It destroyed his potent Force barriers, Syn will explain. uhuh

Contrary to what people may say, I love you.

Originally posted by Syndicate
By looking at her accomplishments and scaling.

Given the blast that was shot out from the machine was the result of Galen's lightning being pumped into it we know the lightning's power had equivalent energy to the blast itself.

Nyriss hit Meetra/Scourge with lightning in that fight? Can you quote that for me?
Your example is flawed, my friend. Continue to read below.

Force Lightning simply activated that machine. The output of machine had nothing to do with it. Unless you believe that Starkiller's Force Lightning can disintegrate Imperial Cruisers.

Yes. Darth Nyriss's normal bursts reduced two armored soldiers to charred smoking husks in an instant. Meetra Surik tanked a similar burst. I will provide a quote, if it is really necessary.

Pretty sure either Revan could solo, both Reborn and SoR together stomp.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, actually, Nyriss hit Meetra with a singular bolt of lightning, which tore through Meetra's force barrier and knocked her on her ass. Because Nyriss' lightning is that powerful. And Revan "easily" blocked a much more powerful blast of lightning from her.

Galen's lightning isn't doing shit here.

Lol, y u lying Skillz?

She absorbed the worst of the lightning but went down regardless. Namely because an instinctive Force barrier isn't designed for tanking Force lightning bursts, that is what genuine Tutaminis is for.

That's hardly the point though, Skillz, Nyriss would've incinerated Scourge and Meetra with the FLS that Revan absorbed and unleashed back at Nyriss, tearing through her barrier and turning her to ash.