Bane vs Daredevil

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carver9
Who taking this?

riv6672
DD. And he'll do it wearing spandex, using two sticks and a rope.

Supermutant
Bane should take this more often than not. For a street level villain, he has a great win/loss record. He has beaten Batman, Azrael, Nightwing, Red Hood, Tim Robin, Cobb Talon, Man-bat, Judomaster, Catman, to name a few. W/o plot armor the level of damage that Daredevil would have to produce for a win is extremely high. While Bane just needs one clean shot or a quick grab.

deathslash
Originally posted by Supermutant
Bane should take this more often than not. For a street level villain, he has a great win/loss record. He has beaten Batman, Azrael, Nightwing, Red Hood, Tim Robin, Cobb Talon, Man-bat, Judomaster, Catman, to name a few. W/o plot armor the level of damage that Daredevil would have to produce for a win is extremely high. While Bane just needs one clean shot or a quick grab. 1. This is new 52 bane, not post crisis bane.
2. Daredevil has fought against tougher opponents than bane

Supermutant
Originally posted by deathslash
1. This is new 52 bane, not post crisis bane.
2. Daredevil has fought against tougher opponents than bane

1. Wasn't mention in OP, besides New 52 Bane history wasn't change.
2. Bane has fought against tougher opponents than Daredevil.
I hate that argument anyway, both have beaten better and have lost to worse.

leonidas
i've not looked through bane/bats fight lately but i think they would be telling here. if bats usually uses his tech to help him take bane down, as opposed to just physical abilities, bane would likely beat dd for a majority. if bats primarily uses skill to win in their meetings, dd would beat bane as i view the 2 as near equals in every way, especially given dd's heightened sensory powers. be a close fight no matter which way you fall out though.

Zack M
Bane

StiltmanFTW
Bane wouldn't beat Ultron shifty

Supermutant
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Bane wouldn't beat Ultron shifty

DD wouldn't pwned Doomsday smokin' totally canon to injustice game lol

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jrodslam
Originally posted by leonidas
i've not looked through bane/bats fight lately but i think they would be telling here. if bats usually uses his tech to help him take bane down, as opposed to just physical abilities, bane would likely beat dd for a majority. if bats primarily uses skill to win in their meetings, dd would beat bane as i view the 2 as near equals in every way, especially given dd's heightened sensory powers. be a close fight no matter which way you fall out though.

abhilegend
Bane. Decisively.

Galan007
Originally posted by leonidas
i've not looked through bane/bats fight lately but i think they would be telling here. if bats usually uses his tech to help him take bane down, as opposed to just physical abilities, bane would likely beat dd for a majority. if bats primarily uses skill to win in their meetings, dd would beat bane as i view the 2 as near equals in every way, especially given dd's heightened sensory powers. be a close fight no matter which way you fall out though. Here is their most recent battle:
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Given some of Bane's uber-as-f*ck feats in the very same mini, the fact that Bruce was able to tank some of the blows he did(and physically contend with Bane at all) is absolutely ridiculous -- even by HIS standards. Imo.


Rewind to their first encounter, however, and Bane casually ragdolled Bruce a few different times. Example:
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So... srug

carthage
Matt is going to need a new spine or a coffin after this

Martian_mind
Ya'll be trippin. DD takes this blindfolded.

iceman24567
Bane rips him apart

Zack M
Bane breaks him.

Khazra Reborn
NU Bane stomps hard, Bats beating him in World war Bane was pure PIS, especially considering he had a 20 ton (minimum) lifting feat a few pages before.

Secret Six Bane would be close, that one could go either way IMO.

riv6672
Originally posted by deathslash
2. Daredevil has fought against tougher opponents than bane
Agreed.
Like supermutant said, both have lost to worse, but, DD has mad damage soak, moreso than Bane on Venom i'm thinking. He's been surviving fights with legit class 100s since his creation.

Zack M
What are the feats that show this?

riv6672
Really? You're asking ME a question? laughing

I've posted the scans before; you can do a search.

StiltmanFTW
Bane should stomp, yes. Unless he's jobbing like against Bruce or Croc in their latest encounters.

Zack M
Bane easily tanked Catman's punch and this was without venom. I just don't see Matt winning here. Maybe 1/10.

riv6672
^^^Thats cool. someone has to be wrong in a debate. This time its you. thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Punch to the gut he tanked, others had *some* effect, especially the first right cross.

Zack M
Bane also tooled Nightwing and Batman. DD isn't winning more than one or so.

StiltmanFTW
DD has fought the Hulk... twice wink

Zack M
Bane>>Batman>>Spectre

deathslash
Originally posted by Zack M
Bane>>Batman>>Spectre I know that you're joking, but seriously, don't ever say that again or I will kill you. With God as my witness, if you say that again, I will find a way to end you (probably through the use of magic).

riv6672
The joke was funny, though!

Plus, its a kind of concession to Stilt's point, so yeah. smile

quanchi112
DD wins.

Zack M
Originally posted by deathslash
I know that you're joking, but seriously, don't ever say that again or I will kill you. With God as my witness, if you say that again, I will find a way to end you (probably through the use of magic).

I never joke in the Vs Forum. no

deathslash
Originally posted by quanchi112
DD wins. when did you take a liking to star wars?Originally posted by Zack M
I never joke in the Vs Forum. no 12:00 in the morning is when I'll end you.

krisblaze
Bane is way too much.

Go back and read some 80s Matt. He gets beat up all the time.

riv6672
Read DD from the 60s on up. He takes hits from way more powerful characters than Bane.
Just two ways of looking at it i guess.

Martian_mind
Matt breaks him, then proceeds to bend the rest of Gotham over his knee.

Zack M
More like Matt breaks his fists punching Bane.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Zack M
More like Matt breaks his fists punching Bane.


Wouldn't even slow Matt down. He's a baller like that. thumb up

Zack M
Neither would Bane. wink

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Zack M
Neither would Bane. wink


Bane wouldn't slow Matt down?


Damn straight. thumb up

riv6672
^^^nice one. thumb up

Obviously DD wins this, as its devolved into shit talk for lack of anything better from the Bane crowd.

krisblaze
Riv, like who?

Ammo, Bullet and Crusher have all more or less dominated Matt but seem like someone who are physically below Bane.

StiltmanFTW
You're forgetting about Mandrill.

riv6672
Originally posted by krisblaze
Riv, like who?

Ammo, Bullet and Crusher have all more or less dominated Matt but seem like someone who are physically below Bane.

Hulk (as mentioned), Silver Surfer, Thor, Namor, Spider-man...

Not saying he won those fights, just that they speak to his damage soak. I'm not going to try and lowball Bane to make DD look better.
My stance on DD has always been he's tougher than Batman, as he does/fights comparable things/villains without a billion dollar suit with equipment. He does it with spandex and his billy clubs.

StiltmanFTW
Lawyers aren't exactly poor, though. Those billy clubs are quite expensive, being bulletproof and the cable being able to restrain Spiderboy for a while.

They are actually better than Nightwing's, lol.

riv6672
Haha

krisblaze
Riv.

He's not taking real punches from those guys.

carver9
Originally posted by krisblaze
Riv.

He's not taking real punches from those guys.

I agree with this. When Hulk hit Deadpool with a serious punch, someone who is comparable to Daredevil physically, it atomized him. Any of the guys Riv named ever decided to get serious with Daredevil, he would die instantly.

StiltmanFTW
He didn't take any real hits from those guys, excluding maybe Spiderpussy.

riv6672
Haha, okay kris, Carver & Stilt.

http://www.theothermurdockpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Daredevil-263-Daredevil-in-the-Hospital.jpg

When i start ****ing with you guys in the future, dismissing your points because the characters arent "fighting for real", remember you all decided to go CBR first. wink

jrodslam
Something people need to take into consideration when it regards Daredevil. Its not entirely DAMAGE SOAK. Many of the hits he take from powerhouses is because they cant land clear hits on him. He dodges a large majority of them, and he constantly takes this. He rolls with punches reducing their effectiveness.

riv6672
I can see that. GL with the 3 amigos, though; all they see is no blood lust murder-death-kill. smile

Zack M
Originally posted by jrodslam
Something people need to take into consideration when it regards Daredevil. Its not entirely DAMAGE SOAK. Many of the hits he take from powerhouses is because they cant land clear hits on him. He dodges a large majority of them, and he constantly takes this. He rolls with punches reducing their effectiveness.

Sucks that Bane has enhanced speed. Grayson wasn't able to out agile Bane. Neither did Batman.

jrodslam
Many believe Matts more agile than Bats and to a degree, NW too. More or less on the same agile level. Radar, puts it over though.

riv6672
All the characters i listed are likely faster than Bane, unless he's caught tank shells and bullets. stick out tongue

Zack M
Originally posted by jrodslam
Many believe Matts more agile than Bats and to a degree, NW too. More or less on the same agile level. Radar, puts it over though.

Certainly to a degree, but not by much. Bane basically tooled NW. Bane has enhanced stats WITHOUT venom. With venom, Bane would crush DD.

riv6672
Nah.

jrodslam
Different things to consider. Always. Lets take DD, BAts and NW.

DD more agile that bats and maybe/maybe not more agile than NW. Not much difference.

DD a better fighter than NW, but not much less of a fighter than Bats.

DD has the radar. Makes him harder to hit or fully land a clean blow than both NW and Bats.

Honestly the fight is hard to call. In the previous links, bats took a lot of damage, but yet put bane down without gadget use really. When bane broke the bats back, wasnt bat previously in a gauntlet?

StiltmanFTW
You do know that Nu Bane beat Batman's rogue gallery while they were on Venom? stick out tongue

His track record was insane. World War Bane, basically.

Zack M
World War Bane would pretty much crush any street leveler. I wouldn't even give Batman odds over him.

riv6672
I read in this site (regarding the venom'd villains) that it wasnt clear to what extent it amped them. Not taking away from the feat, but it was established all the villains werent summarily on Bane's level.

Zack M
His feat of ripping 2 Talons in half was also uber. Especially with their amped stats.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by riv6672
I read in this site (regarding the venom'd villains) that it wasnt clear to what extent it amped them. Not taking away from the feat, but it was established all the villains werent summarily on Bane's level.

They were also half crazed from the intense pain Venom put them in, something Bane was used to and able to block out.

riv6672
Originally posted by Zack M
His feat of ripping 2 Talons in half was also uber. Especially with their amped stats.

DD would have crushed them with a limo.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They were also half crazed from the intense pain Venom put them in, something Bane was used to and able to block out.
That would suck.
Also doesnt put them at their best.

StiltmanFTW
They couldn't handle the withdrawal, that's what Lightsinner meant.

Zack M
Originally posted by riv6672
DD would have crushed them with a limo.


That would suck.
Also doesnt put them at their best.

DD wouldn't be able to take down the best Talons. If batman had a tough time, DD would too .

Supermutant
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StiltmanFTW
laughing

leonidas
i'd bz this.

RadZoa
Daredevil is more on Tim Drakes level TBH

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by RadZoa
Daredevil is more on Tim Drakes level TBH

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abhilegend
Yeah, that's just nonsense.

riv6672
Originally posted by Zack M
DD wouldn't be able to take down the best Talons. If batman had a tough time, DD would too .
Uh huh.

Zack M
Originally posted by riv6672
Uh huh.

yes

riv6672
Not sure what you're smiling at, as DD already crushed the Talons with a limo. thumb up

Zack M
Nope, nope.

riv6672
smile

^^^Right back at ya.

deathslash
Originally posted by Supermutant
end of thread

http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/39001/4446353-mrnoital.jpg that's actually the sound of bane breaking his knee. It's so loud that it startled DD.

Zack M
Originally posted by riv6672
smile

^^^Right back at ya.

And right back at ya! shifty

riv6672
Guess you're all questioned out. Concession accepted.

riv6672
Originally posted by deathslash
that's actually the sound of bane breaking his knee. It's so loud that it startled DD.
I laughed out loud! laughing

Zack M
Originally posted by riv6672
Guess you're all questioned out. Concession accepted.

Concession accepted. wink

riv6672
^^^if i wanted my own comeback i'd wipe yer chin. smile

Aaand on that note, i'm done in this thread. DD FTW.

Zack M
Nope. DD dies a horrible death. Pretty stupid to think he would have a chance, TBH.

krisblaze
Bane is a rough matchup for street levelers.

Especially in new 52 where he has absurd superhuman feats.

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