Darth Nihilus vs Various Sith Lords ( Force Only )

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Trocity
Nihilus is typically omitted from many people's top ten Sith lists due to the nature of his character/power. How does he fare in a Force fight against the following Sith Lords?

Darth Nihilus vs Exar Kun

Darth Nihilus vs Darth Krayt

Darth Nihilus vs Darth Plagueis

Nephthys
Clean sweep.

Deronn_solo
Loses to all.

Ziggystardust
All three could fight him together and the result would be the same. Drain ftw.

Trocity
Bump.

So far people think he either shits on all of them or loses to all of them.

Very divided.

chingchangwalla
Kind of gets stomped

Nephthys
Nihilus' opponents? I guess if you want to see it that way.....

MythLord
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Loses to all.

Nephthys
How do these guys defend against Nihilus' drain? Not to mention his superior TK?

NewGuy01
Nihilus probably loses each round provided, yeah.

AncientPower
Originally posted by Nephthys
How do these guys defend against Nihilus' drain? Not to mention his superior TK?

Two of them are exceptionally knowledgable about Force drain and one has used it on mass before. They are all extremely powerful too.

Exar Kun can kill him with a simple Force blast like he did to Freedon Nadd.

Ziggystardust
Originally posted by AncientPower


Exar Kun can kill him with a simple Force blast like he did to Freedon Nadd.
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Nephthys
Originally posted by AncientPower
Two of them are exceptionally knowledgable about Force drain and one has used it on mass before. They are all extremely powerful too.

Nihilus' drain isn't standard, lol. Krayt using the normal version and Kun using it in a ritual mean nothing towards them blocking Nihilus' version which is stated to have no defense.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Exar Kun can kill him with a simple Force blast like he did to Freedon Nadd.

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AncientPower
His drain is the height of a drain variation the ancient Sith learnt, both Kun and Krayt had ridiculously large knowledge about said drain. Kun created the Force Harvester which drains thousands at a time, he created the Golden Globe to drain and encase thousands of Massassi, as a spirit Kun drained Gantoris to ash faster than Gantoris could charge him down in a small bedroom.

Kun's Force blast is stated to kill spirits, one of which was the spirit of Freedon Nadd amped by hundreds of Jedi spirits. Darth Nihilus is an essence/spirit that shedded his own body and used his mask/armor as an anchor.

The Merchant
Stomped by all. Simple power scaling + statement dictates this. Nihilus is strong but over rated. He is only a rival to some ancient Sith although Drain is his edge admittedly.

SunRazer
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nihilus probably loses each round provided, yeah.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Nephthys
Clean sweep.

A more conventional clash would be a spectacle to behold in each case. However, Darth Nihilus's stupendous Force Drain powers tip each contest in his favor.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
All three could fight him together and the result would be the same. Drain ftw.
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S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by AncientPower
His drain is the height of a drain variation the ancient Sith learnt, both Kun and Krayt had ridiculously large knowledge about said drain. Kun created the Force Harvester which drains thousands at a time, he created the Golden Globe to drain and encase thousands of Massassi, as a spirit Kun drained Gantoris to ash faster than Gantoris could charge him down in a small bedroom.
So?

Point is about being on its receiving end. No known conventional technique renders greatest expressions of Force Drain mute. Even Abeloth couldn't do anything about Force Drain powers of Darth Krayt.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Kun's Force blast is stated to kill spirits, one of which was the spirit of Freedon Nadd amped by hundreds of Jedi spirits. Darth Nihilus is an essence/spirit that shedded his own body and used his mask/armor as an anchor.
Spirits/disembodied beings significantly vary in power and capabilities. There is no one-shoe-fit-all regarding them.

We have examples of spirits/disembodied beings such as Valkorion and Abeloth who look unstoppable. We also have examples of spirits/disembodied beings that could hardly do much.

Darth Nihilus was not like a conventional spirit. Jedi Exile and her allies diminished his strength to an extent that he could no longer sustain his form. Pressures of extreme hunger also wore him down.

AncientPower
Both of your states are fundamentally no limits of the fallacious kind, Darth Nihilus will not be capable of draining them to death before they can react. Especially Plagueis and Krayt who are both familiar with Nihilus' infamous Force applications.

A Force blast is proven to be capable of rending spirits, even extremely powerful ones, to pieces. This was only Exar Kun before his prime as a Force user.

Nephthys
Originally posted by AncientPower
His drain is the height of a drain variation the ancient Sith learnt, both Kun and Krayt had ridiculously large knowledge about said drain. Kun created the Force Harvester which drains thousands at a time, he created the Golden Globe to drain and encase thousands of Massassi, as a spirit Kun drained Gantoris to ash faster than Gantoris could charge him down in a small bedroom.

Kun's Force blast is stated to kill spirits, one of which was the spirit of Freedon Nadd amped by hundreds of Jedi spirits. Darth Nihilus is an essence/spirit that shedded his own body and used his mask/armor as an anchor.

No, they don't. They display knowledge of a different drain. Neither if them use Nihilus' variation of the technique and display none of the effects that using it brings. Theres no proof they have a clue how to defend against it when Traya didn't despite being far more familiar with Nihilus' specific technique than either Kun or Krayt are.

Nihilus isn't a disembodied spirit, he's infused with his armor. He isn't dead like Nadd was. Kun can't directly strike his spirit in this manner. Furthermore he won't be able to launch a surprise attack like he did with Nadd, nor would such an attack be impossible for Nihilus to defend against. Lastly, Kun would never be able to get close enough to replicate his attack on Nadd.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by AncientPower
Both of your states are fundamentally no limits of the fallacious kind, Darth Nihilus will not be capable of draining them to death before they can react. Especially Plagueis and Krayt who are both familiar with Nihilus' infamous Force applications.
How long does it takes Darth Nihilus to unleash his Force Drain powers on his opponents? Like instantaneously?

It doesn't matters if a (powerful) opponent is able to make a move while being subjected to stupendously potent Force Drain powers. The opponent would feel his strength diminishing at a rapid pace. In a span of a few seconds, the opponent would loose much of his strength and eventually fall.

Originally posted by AncientPower
A Force blast is proven to be capable of rending spirits, even extremely powerful ones, to pieces. This was only Exar Kun before his prime as a Force user.
Sorry.

Do you really think that a Force blast would have taken out Freedon Nadd during his physical prime? The spirit of an individual is no where near as powerful as his physical prime.

Sith spirits bear extreme pressure of resisting the pull of void for as long as they last; this is why they tend to anchor themselves to an environment (or material) strong in the Dark Side because they lack the strength to resist the pull of the void in a fair manner. Should they be subjected to overwhelming powers, they would find it impossible to resist the pull of a void and seize to exist.

Valkorion and Abeloth are not like Sith spirits. Each would eat Exar Kun for breakfast. So would Darth Nihilus.

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