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1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All out

Obviously the Outlander.

Outlander, I might be inclined to say Kyp has a slight advantage in the Force; but if he does then the advantage isn't a very big one.

1. Kyp, 10/10.
2. Outlander, 10/10.
3. Outlander, 7-9/10.

Kyp is too powerful, but as combatants they are like totally different.

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Outlander wins Sabers, Kyp wrecks in force and all-out I would give to Kyp.

Outlander

Kyp takes all.

Outlander may take sabers.

Kyp takes the rest.

Kyp is too powerful for the Outlander.

Durron

Resisting opponents with superior raw power and taking them down in close quarters is what HoT does for living.

Originally posted by Sinious
Resisting opponents with superior raw power and taking them down in close quarters is what HoT does for living.

I dunno, Arcann ragdolled him pretty badly, and Kyp is more powerful than Vader.

Exactly, all the feats he had, still got ragdolled by Arcann, and then defeated Arcann.

As you can see, I didn't deny Kyp's superior power.

He didn't defeat Arcann in that fight.

Kyp
Outlander
Outlander

Not sure

Outlander doesn't impress me

The Outlander is almost certainly the better swordsman, but I can't imagine them overpowering Kyp in a telekinetic showdown.

If Kyp actually uses his power effectively I don't see how anyone in TOR below novel Vitiate can beat him.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
If Kyp actually uses his power effectively I don't see how anyone in TOR below novel Vitiate can beat him.
I have Kyp beating Novitate for a majority, tbh. He could lose some rounds to Revan, tho.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
I have Kyp beating Novitate for a majority, tbh.

I'm not sure. I would be open to that possibility.

Kyp defeating Vitiate in any incarnation after Nathema is pure and unadulterated cancer. That being said, he probably could take the Outlander in Force only.

I don't think it's a question that he'd take the Outlander in Force only if he was written well.

He isn't beating Vitiate, though, indeed.

Didn't Corran deflect Kyp's force blast with a force shield when he was under control by Kun?

Kyp has the feats (dovin basal manipulation, freighter flinging, etc.) and the accolades (suggested to have more raw power than Luke) to take on novel Vitiate. If his performance in combat matched his raw power, I could buy it.

He still got ragdolled. And again in DNT when the playing ground was more even.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I don't think it's a question that he'd take the Outlander in Force only if he was written well.

He isn't beating Vitiate, though, indeed.
Novel Vitate didn't impressed me so much, tbh.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Kyp has the feats (dovin basal manipulation, freighter flinging, etc.) and the accolades (suggested to have more raw power than Luke) to take on novel Vitiate. If his performance in combat matched his raw power, I could buy it.
That is my reasoning. He also should have a ridiculous growth between JA and FotJ.

Kyp's much less than impressive in a number of appearances as well.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Kyp's much less than impressive in a number of appearances as well.

Yeah. He isn't as impressive in combat as his signature feats and hype would predict.

Novel Vitate isn't either, tho.

More impressive than Kyp is on average in terms of combat showings.

What do you mean with low-showings, btw? Getting stomped by a slayer?

It's not even a matter of low showings. Kyp just doesn't have any combat showings befitting a character of his potential and hype.

Yeah, that is his problem. He has nearly none at all.

Originally posted by SunRazer
He still got ragdolled. And again in DNT when the playing ground was more even.

Fair enough then.