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Fight takes place on Had Abbadon.

Team 1.

Let's make it four rounds:

1. Darth Revan

2. KotOR Revan

3. Novel Revan

4. SoR Revan

Malak's at his unamped prime here.

Krayt's a very heavy hitter here, probably takes it for his team.

Even whilst being devoured slowly by his parasites?

I'm thinking that Malak's the weakest one here and should fall to either of team one in a good fight. Revan would probably lose in his Sith incarnation, actually. The more powerful versions might be the strongest player on the field, though. I don't think novel Revan is quite capable of picking up Malak's slack, but SoR Revan might be able to.

Muur/Morne and Krayt take all, ngl.

Team two in all. Malak' better than Muur. Revan's better than his Krayt.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Team two in all. Malak' better than Muur.

You flip-flop on this a lot, don't you?

When it is demanded, yesh. :>

So you don't really have Malak over Muur?

I think they're the same level. With the SF amp, Malak's better though.

In regard to Revan vs Krayt, all incarnations of Revan is above Vong.

Is MW Revan above Vong Krayt?

This isn't SF Malak.

Eh, probably not.

Based on comments by the Rakata, I'm inclined to believe the power Malak was getting from the Star Forge was permanent and would remain off the nexus. It's like saying "Vitiate vs Palpatine," but then meaning pre-Nathema.

Well then do one for pre-SF and post-SF Malak.

Team 1 stomps all rounds.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Well then do one for pre-SF and post-SF Malak.
Team two in both.

A'sharad Hett > SoR Revan

mmm Seems legit.

I put either on team 2 above Malak. Team 1 should have the win, no weak points.

Originally posted by Q99
I put either on team 2 above Malak.

Either on team *1*.

I'm actually not that familiar with how Muur affected Morne. Could someone point me to some context or feats please?

Originally posted by Vixas
I'm actually not that familiar with how Muur affected Morne. Could someone point me to some context or feats please?

Basically, with Morne in the driver's seat drawing power off the amulet (and she was, btw, something like 120 years old learning to fight Muur and do that), she was in a degrading stalemate where Krayt was pushing her around and trying to goad her into surrendering, while Muur similarly was trying to get her to relinquish control since he was stronger.

When Muur took over, he was at *least* equal to Vong-Krayt. They got into a lightning duel where he absorbed some of Krayt's lightning and tossed it back (and then Krayt was stabbed in the back so things were cut short and the final result of a 1v1 didn't play out, but still, as far as they went Muur was impressive).


Also when Vader encountered Muur/Morne a few years after RotS, he had a vision where the amulet would provide a boost to make him strong enough to defeat Sidious... but he was unsure whether it'd just be trading one master for another.



Karness Muur was one of the 5 big guns of the original 12 Sith in life. As in the Dark Jedi who moved to Korriban, took over, and said, "We're the Dark Lords of the Sith now," making the name. And of those 5 viewed as the greatest, he's probably the second most powerful behind the leader.

There is also a quote outright saying Muur's power eclipsed Krayt's on Had Abaddon or something to that effect.

IMO Vong Krayt is on the same level as Vader(but with shittier stamina) so Muur being stronger than that is pretty impressive.

Team 1 against Darth Revan and Malak. But seeing as you added more rounds for each incarnation of Revan,

Team 1 wins all except for when Team 2 has SoR Revan. Malak is enough to give a good fight and allow Revan to pick people off.

I'll agree with that, tbh.