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They're at the top of their game. Luther Strode has just finished his story, and Midnighter is as he was prior to the reboot. As for stipulations this is a straightforward fight. So, no BFR or use of Doors is allowed.

They fight in the deserts of the Land of Nod.

Not very familiar with Midnighter.

What's he done to put him in the same ballpark as Luther?

Originally posted by Galan007
Not very familiar with Midnighter.

What's he done to put him in the same ballpark as Luther?

Super computer brain, can predict a bunch of moves ahead of time, super strength and speed. A lot like Luther Strode really.

I know what his general abilities are, but what feats does he have that put him on par with Luther?

Originally posted by Galan007
I know what his general abilities are, but what feats does he have that put him on par with Luther?

I recall kicking a tank shell away. Generally tearing people apart with his bare hands.

Hmm.

I guess I'll have to wait and see if any Midnighter fans respond, because I'm generally curious. As you well know, Luther has TONS of absurd feats.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not very familiar with Midnighter.

What's he done to put him in the same ballpark as Luther?

Vs a speedster who is nearly as fast as the Flash...

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR_zpsashkeaq7.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR2_zpsmnitatqi.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR3_zpsxjqbfvee.jpg

Vs The Suicide Squad (Deadshot, Harley, Parasite)

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR4_zpsfrtuvwrl.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR5_zpsg3x96gpo.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR6_zpsatrynbye.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR7_zpsiqudu8t0.jpg

Preboot, Golgo, damn.

Anyways...

Strength levels? He can hurt Apollo. Has healed from a snapped neck. Beat AIDS in six weeks. Fast enough to blitz superhumans who were Apollo level speedsters. Has enhanced senses enabling him to discern things. Fought Jack Hawksmoor in the carrier. That kinda thing.

Midnighter kills Prometheus, despite him taking away his enhancements and blindsiding him (Prometheus disguised himself and befriended Mids).

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR8_zpscerl8jkx.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR9_zpsz21yyteh.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR10_zpsrfhescjz.jpg
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR11_zps0qh9nkgk.jpg

Note, that Prometheus all the skills of all the top fighters from around the world and even notes that Midnighter is one of them.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/MR12_zpsmco9xcn5.jpg

Preboot!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Preboot, Golgo, damn.

Anyways...

Strength levels? He can hurt Apollo. Has healed from a snapped neck. Beat AIDS in six weeks. Fast enough to blitz superhumans who were Apollo level speedsters. Has enhanced senses enabling him to discern things. Fought Jack Hawksmoor in the carrier. That kinda thing.

I thought the Midnighter from the last series is the WS one, thanks to the reboot from Stormwatch.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Preboot, Golgo, damn.

Anyways...

Strength levels? He can hurt Apollo. Has healed from a snapped neck. Beat AIDS in six weeks. Fast enough to blitz superhumans who were Apollo level speedsters. Has enhanced senses enabling him to discern things. Fought Jack Hawksmoor in the carrier. That kinda thing.

So, the Midnighter hits harder enough to destroy countries and continents now? Can you show me the Midnighter doing this outside of his fights? Has he moved as fast as Apollo outside of them as well?

What has Midnighter done that can't be attributed to any obscure scaling from a fight against people who have much better feats than he does?

Originally posted by Zack M
I thought the Midnighter from the last series is the WS one, thanks to the reboot from Stormwatch. I'm pretty sure he was given a different origin.

Originally posted by Sharivan
So, the Midnighter hits harder enough to destroy countries and continents now? Can you show me the Midnighter doing this outside of his fights? Has he moved as fast as Apollo outside of them as well?

What has Midnighter done that can't be attributed to any obscure scaling from a fight against people who have much better feats than he does?

Are you asking for....what, space cheese type feats? I posted battle feats for a battle board, lol. He doesn't have feats like, say, Superman benching the earth for five days, or Batman leg pressing 1600lbs (or whatever it is). He just goes out and wrecks people. That's what the Authority books were all about.

Another one: Still standing after being hurled through four cars by a superhuman. This the kinda thing you were looking for?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119495/3967693- durability%2C+tanks+being+thrown+through+4+differe
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Luther speed blitzes Mids, and tears his arms off.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Are you asking for....what, space cheese type feats? I posted battle feats for a battle board, lol. He doesn't have feats like, say, Superman benching the earth for five days, or Batman leg pressing 1600lbs (or whatever it is). He just goes out and wrecks people. That's what the Authority books were all about.

Another one: Still standing after being hurled through four cars by a superhuman. This the kinda thing you were looking for?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119495/3967693- durability%2C+tanks+being+thrown+through+4+differe
nt+cars.jpg

Yeah, that works.

Along with the tank shell stuff, and I believe he has kicked cars away before.

This is why we don't go by handbooks or bios. But feats.

And in a battle thread, Midnighter has the battle feats to win.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is why we don't go by handbooks or bios. But feats.

And in a battle thread, Midnighter has the battle feats to win.

I wasn't agreeing with you on showings over others. I was agreeing with you regarding Midnighter's durability feat there, and that was the kind of feat I was looking for.