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Wanna see where people rank Z in relation to comic characters. mmm

Saiyan Saga Goku, Vegeta, Nappa, and Gohan take on Thor on Earth. Gohan is in his Oozaru form.

Bonus: if team dies, replace them with Frieza Saga Goku/Vegeta/Enraged Gohan when he fought 2nd form Frieza.

Any one of them could take Thor. Well, maybe not Gohan - he'd be pretty much mindless...

Thor has a certain degree of superhuman speed, but it's low. DBZ characters, on the other hand, have superior fighting speed to that of the vast majority of Marvel characters.

Yeah, no way he beats all of them at once.

When they prove too fast he can just zap all of them. He's strong enough to tank anything he doesn't dodge, deflect or absorb with Mjolnir

He flicks them all and they die.

Okay...

Will use the feedback for future threads

I feel Thor could endure long enough to do..something with his magic hammer. Given the power of the hammer there has got to be something it could do to win.

Oh wait, Thor can dimension dump I'm pretty sure. Goku doesn't gain the ability to teleport until after he fights Frieza.

The only thing putting Saiyan Saga characters on par with Thor is the fact that Vegeta blew up that one planet.

Blowing up a planet isn't enough to beat Thor though, imo.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Any one of them could take Thor. Well, maybe not Gohan - he'd be pretty much mindless...

Thor has a certain degree of superhuman speed, but it's low. DBZ characters, on the other hand, have superior fighting speed to that of the vast majority of Marvel characters.

Agreed.

All of them minus Gohan can solo Thor. Also, Vegeta have a crazy durability showing during the Saiyan saga that I know for a fact he couldn't replicate. Vegeta stood in one spot and tanked Nappa attack that was seen from space without flinching.

Originally posted by carver9
All of them minus Gohan can solo Thor. Also, Vegeta have a crazy durability showing during the Saiyan saga that I know for a fact he couldn't replicate. Vegeta stood in one spot and tanked Nappa attack that was seen from space without flinching. Ok?

Nappa's best destructive feats are... blowing up a city, and fighting the military.


And again, Planet Busting attack isn't enough to kill Thor, he's more durable then that.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Ok?

Nappa's best destructive feats are... blowing up a city, and fighting the military.


And again, Planet Busting attack isn't enough to kill Thor, he's more durable then that.

The blast was seen from the out skirt of space and was huge. That's more than city busting.

Prove that Thor is above planet busting.

Originally posted by carver9
The blast was seen from the out skirt of space and was huge. That's more than city busting.

Prove that Thor is above planet busting.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4617005

Just scroll through that. He went through that planet-busting missile.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
And again, Planet Busting attack isn't enough to kill Thor, he's more durable then that.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111216019/4655833-4481041-blackpanther08p12.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111216019/4655833-4481041-blackpanther08p12.jpg Ok, but... the scan I showed tho.

Originally posted by carver9
The blast was seen from the out skirt of space and was huge. That's more than city busting.

Prove that Thor is above planet busting.

I also think you underestimate how big your average city is.

Blowing up your average suburb should be somewhat visible from space too.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/BP_JIM117a.jpg

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Ok, but... the scan I showed tho.

You didn't even post the full scene, bro.

Come on, man. Thor's gotten a lot more powerful since then. Didn't he take hits from Celestials and fight Death Sentry?

At one point in the past few years, he even stood there and got hit by heavy machinegun/artillery fire and just tanked it iirc.

He also got humiliated by Cap's son, rocked by Logan's punches and got his thorgina destroyed by Angela...

He was never on DBZ level. You simply haven't shrugged off Rage's brainwashing yet.

Gohan in SSJ2 got taken out by a grunt with a laser blaster. What's your point?

When? That sounds awfully similar to a certain scene from RoF.

Thor has no speed to compete here. And no durability, either. A quick blitz of punches will tear him to pieces and those pieces to even smaller pieces...

I'm honestly not sure if you're joking or not.

I'm serious.

Dragon Ball characters actually do use their speed all the time in combat, unlike Superman, for example. Thor is a slowpoke in comparison.

Even someone as "weak" as Roshi was able to one-shot a moon and effortlessly catch bullets. And his PL is nothing to Saiyan Saga characters.

I'm not saying Thor is super fast, but he does have a few feats of tagging speedsters.

But my point is, he's more durable than anything Saiyan Saga can throw at him. And he's got magic, plus lightning, etc... He'll have to fight smart to win, but he can win, especially with some of the comic fights he's had.

Originally posted by KingD19
I'm not saying Thor is super fast, but he does have a few feats of tagging speedsters.

See? That's what I meant by Rage's brainwashing.

What is he going to do? A ground-pound? Too bad for him, all combatans sans Oozaru are airborne.

Originally posted by KingD19
But my point is, he's more durable than anything Saiyan Saga can throw at him. And he's got magic, plus lightning, etc... He'll have to fight smart to win, but he can win, especially with some of the comic fights he's had.

He cannot take a blitz of punches from super-strong characters. They may be weaker than him, but they can punch literally thousands of times faster...

That's not even mentioning ki attacks - he was hurt by a repulsor spam at point-blank. Renzoku Energy Dan would disintegrate him.

This is recent for Thor.

http://i68.tinypic.com/4iecdd.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2uxwza1.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2m5x8h5.jpg

This wouldn't even happen to DragonBall Era Goku. I don't know why people are clinging to Thor highs (even though I can't recall him ever surviving a planet busting attack). The things that the Z fighters shrugged off during the Saiyan saga would NOT happen for Thor. Thor isn't shrugging this off...

https://youtu.be/JJ1mEaMXDgw

It just ain't happening. He would probably die.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Ok?

Nappa's best destructive feats are... blowing up a city, and fighting the military.


And again, Planet Busting attack isn't enough to kill Thor, he's more durable then that.

Nappa best is a holding back attack that destroyed the city but was seen from the outskirts of space as clear as day. A city busting will not be seen like that.

Lol...less than a planet busting has killed Thor. Be quiet.

Bakuhatsuha, yes. And Thor can't hope to block that sort of a ki attack.

Didn't Thor survive in the sun though?

Thor also got slammed into a planet after being bumrushed for a few million lightyears by Death Sentry. That impact force alone is staggering.

Originally posted by Surtur
Didn't Thor survive in the sun though?

He sure did. Goku at a powerlevel of 300 survived being right at the sun. I dont get it though, even if he did survive being in the sun, are you implying people like Superman and Hulk couldn't hurt him?

Originally posted by KingD19
Thor also got slammed into a planet after being bumrushed for a few million lightyears by Death Sentry. That impact force alone is staggering.

And it temp dropped him.

Thor easily solos.

Thor's speed is very inconsistent. At his best he's many thousand times faster or more than Saiyan saga characters, at his worst he's slower than Wolverine. On average though yeah, he doesn't use his speed.

Thor does however have feats of physically devastating planets while fighting Gorr, before he then physically stopped the planet's destruction. This shows his physical power is in a ballpark well outside of the Saiyan saga characters.

Ultimately though, Thor is just too durable for these characters to significantly inconvenience, especially physically. Any energy attacks that could harm him are easily absorbed by Mjolnir.

They can't win, and while it can be feasibly argued that Thor is too much of a sluggish fatass to tag a Z fighter, he has far more means at his disposal to kill them.

Originally posted by carver9
And it temp dropped him. Compared to a Saiyan saga Z fighter who would have died.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Compared to a Saiyan saga Z fighter who would have died.

They wouldn't have survived the initial bumrush as well, no one there could breathe in space for one thing.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thor easily solos.

Thor's speed is very inconsistent. At his best he's many thousand times faster or more than Saiyan saga characters, at his worst he's slower than Wolverine. On average though yeah, he doesn't use his speed.

Thor does however have feats of physically devastating planets while fighting Gorr, before he then physically stopped the planet's destruction. This shows his physical power is in a ballpark well outside of the Saiyan saga characters.

Ultimately though, Thor is just too durable for these characters to significantly inconvenience, especially physically. Any energy attacks that could harm him are easily absorbed by Mjolnir.

They can't win, and while it can be feasibly argued that Thor is too much of a sluggish fatass to tag a Z fighter, he has far more means at his disposal to kill them.

Show me these speed fts. How will he counter a blast if he doesn't even see it coming. The Z fighters are strong enough to drop him.

Naah, it wouldn't have killed them but it probably would've koed them. They wouldn't have any issues harming him, blitzing him and surviving his attacks. Any of them here minus Gohan solos.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me these speed fts. How will he counter a blast if he doesn't even see it coming. The Z fighters are strong enough to drop him.

I've already posted the Gorr feats to you before. You ignored them before. I have no reason to think you won't now, and as such I feel no particular inclination towards doing so.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir50-EnergyAbsorptionSS04.jpg

He can draw the energy towards Mjolnir, he doesn't need to react to it.



Thor's taken way better than characters who are just beginning to verge onto planet busting, and who aren't nearly as physically strong.

How will they harm a man who physically breaks planets with the shockwaves of his blows and can then repair the damage physically?

Even if we assume Thor is too slow to react to them (he's not, DBZ characters at this point are only around the speed of average lightning), he can genuinely kill them all with a single omnidirectional blast. Just for fun he can do it with their own ki blasts he absorbed, which would be returned tenfold.

Thor can't lose this.

He can possibly beat Gohan but Nappa stomps him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I've already posted the Gorr feats to you before. You ignored them before. I have no reason to think you won't now, and as such I feel no particular inclination towards doing so.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir50-EnergyAbsorptionSS04.jpg

He can draw the energy towards Mjolnir, he doesn't need to react to it.



Thor's taken way better than characters who are just beginning to verge onto planet busting, and who aren't nearly as physically strong.

How will they harm a man who physically breaks planets with the shockwaves of his blows and can then repair the damage physically?

Even if we assume Thor is too slow to react to them (he's not, DBZ characters at this point are only around the speed of average lightning), he can genuinely kill them all with a single omnidirectional blast. Just for fun he can do it with their own ki blasts he absorbed, which would be returned tenfold.

Thor can't lose this.

You showed me Thor flying around with Mjlonir. He isn't as far as his hammer.

Lol...he will not be able to lift his hammer by the time the Z fighters are done with him.

Thor isn't withstanding planet busting attacks and he sure as he'll isn't tanking hits from the Z fighters before their blitz is done. You think extremely high of him.

Thir didn't break a planet. If so, show scans and also, even if he did break a planet with his swing, it was Mjlonir doing it, not Thor fist.

He's not killing them with a single attack.

Originally posted by carver9
You showed me Thor flying around with Mjlonir. He isn't as far as his hammer.

Lol...he will not be able to lift his hammer by the time the Z fighters are done with him.

Thor isn't withstanding planet busting attacks and he sure as he'll isn't tanking hits from the Z fighters before their blitz is done. You think extremely high of him.

Thir didn't break a planet. If so, show scans and also, even if he did break a planet with his swing, it was Mjlonir doing it, not Thor fist.

He's not killing them with a single attack.

Thor has issues with characters far less powerful, fast and skilled than the Z-Fighters.

I'm pretty sure he would get dropped at the 23rd Budokai Tournament by every of the Z-Fighters.

Originally posted by carver9
You showed me Thor flying around with Mjlonir. He isn't as far as his hammer.

Does he not have Mjolnir in this thread?



Why not? Their punches will only tickle him and their big ki blasts take time to charge. That's more than enough time for Thor to begin drawing surrounding energy into Mjolnir.



I guess it's a good thing you can't actually show me any Z fighters throwing any at this point in the manga.

Though he certainly can. I hope you're not going to dispute that Thor has dealt with much worse than planet busting attacks.



How strong do you think they are at this point?



So once again, does Thor not have Mjolnir for this fight?

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee224/Pyronftw/Untitledhghgg_zps6be0203c.png

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee224/Pyronftw/Untitledjub_zps06703837.png

The shockwave of Thor's fight with Gorr was "shattering (...) worlds" around them, and we see that one of them is populated, so Thor flies at superluminal speeds into the planet and repairs it physically. I should also point out this is a durability feat, since Thor would have to withstand the blows that were causing worlds to crumble around them and would be taking far more of the force than they were.



Evidence that the Z fighters can withstand their best ki attacks being thrown back at them with ten times the power?

Or that they can withstand an attack that can break apart worlds from hundreds of thousands of miles away?

That's how Thor manages against a character skilled as using his speed.

Mongoose:

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/36/1473031780-thor-1989-408-09.jpg

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/36/1473031783-thor-1989-408-10.jpg

Now let's put this in perspective and look at how fast and powerful the characters are in the 23rd Budokai Tournament.

Goku Vs Tienshinhan

Goku and Tien are way too fast and powerful for Thor, they could drop him in a few seconds without breaking a sweat.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/36/1473034527-dragon-ball-v15-112.jpg

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/36/1473034549-dragon-ball-v15-113.jpg

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/36/1473034550-dragon-ball-v15-114.jpg

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/36/1473034546-dragon-ball-v15-115.jpg

It is really easy to understand that Mongoose would be a slow and weak character compared to those ones.

Winning the Saiyan Saga is out of question for Thor.

He would never pass any of those combat thirsty characters.

By the way I want to apologize for the formatting because I really don't know how to use it better so if anyone can help I would be glad.

Sorry, I don't respond to child-molesting retards who were raped by their fathers.

NGl people are making a decent case for Thor here

What is NGI?

Not gonna lie