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TFU II Starkiller - Fighting on Kamino

Vader+

Same as what Nova said, anybody Vader or above.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Same as what Nova said, anybody Vader or above.

This made me chuckle.

Me too.

I take it you were either being sarcastic or I used the wrong nickname or something.

Just call me Syndi.

Also I do actually believe Vader level opponents and above can beat Starkiller. I just have a much higher of opinion then Vader then you probably do and I don't believe the clone is as powerful as the original template.

I'll do that from now on.

Killer's Vader level, but give him proper motivation and he can be a lot more deadly.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Vader+

Between the four of you, I expect Vader+ tier includes a wide array of characters that vary from person to person. Who is Vader+ and why do they beat Galen?

Caedus, any version of Sidious, Luke, possibly Mara Jade, Revan, Yoda, Vitiate, Valkorion, possibly Arcann, there are a few more that aren't coming to mind at the moment.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Caedus, almost any version of Sidious, Luke, possibly Mara Jade, Revan, Yoda, Vitiate, Valkorion, possibly Arcann, there are a few more that aren't coming to mind at the moment.
Seems legit

Remove Mara and Arcann; the rest beat him, yeah.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Seems legit Mara Jade is roughly equal to Vader in her prime, so I think she's have a shot at beating Starkiller.

Arcann, the Outlander, Revan, Malgus, Bane, Zannah, Luke, Hord, Caedus, Krayt, Yoda, Sidious, Plagueis, the Masters, Jadus (?), Traya, Nihilus etc.

Marek is fairly hard to pin down. I wouldn't be adverse to suggest him to be a high Dooku level. The Count could possibly beat him.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Mara Jade is roughly equal to Vader in her prime, so I think she's have a shot at beating Starkiller.

This is exactly what I mean.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Also I do actually believe Vader level opponents and above can beat Starkiller. I just have a much higher of opinion then Vader then you probably do and I don't believe the clone is as powerful as the original template.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Between the four of you, I expect Vader+ tier includes a wide array of characters that vary from person to person. Who is Vader+ and why do they beat Galen?

Vader doesn't beat Galen. He beats the character you put at the top of your thread, Starkiller.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
This is exactly what I mean. I see what you mean then.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Mara Jade is roughly equal to Vader in her prime, so I think she's have a shot at beating Starkiller.
Seems legit

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Vader doesn't beat Galen. He beats the character you put at the top of your thread, Starkiller.

Supposedly, Vader improves after both fights.

While I heavily disagree with you on a number of topics, you're quite a pleasant person to interact with.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Supposedly, Vader improves after both fights.

Yes. I see Galen as Starkiller's superior.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Seems legit Is Mara not even close to Vader or something? I thought she was just based on what I know of her, I'll admit that the NJO isn't where most of my knowledge lies.

Mara is solid and most of the forum has her about RotS Obi Wan level.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Mara is solid and most of the forum has her about RotS Obi Wan level. I can see that, seems I overrated her a bit then.

*Kind smile*

Just a bit.

I have her below that.

I have her below that as a duelist but due to her versatility and combat ingenuity probably about on par as a general combatant.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I have her below that. Where do you have her?

Below that.

Vader, Yoda, Sheev, Plagueis, Kun, Revan, Krayt, Talzin, SOD Maul ( for a slim majority IMO), Luke, Mace, Anakin

Prolly Jaina too

Originally posted by Nephthys
Bane, Zannah

Tbf you put Maul in there. Don't really have room to talk.

Maul one-shots Bane

+_+

Not if it's next to a cliff Maul can trip off of.

****in come at me

xD

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not if it's next to a cliff Maul can trip off of.
That's why it's SOD, Rebels Maul would fall straight onto Bane's saber and then Bane would slip over onto Maul's horns

Among the characters not mentioned - Darth Malgus, Darth Nyriss, Wrath II, Nox, HoT, Barsenthor.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I have her below that as a duelist but due to her versatility and combat ingenuity probably about on par as a general combatant.

Kenobi is definitely neither versatile or ingenious so I agree.