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Rank each of them next to someone you find most comparable (ie. Baras, Thanaton, Wrath, etc.)

For each of Sidious' apprentices, make a ranking based on sheer Force power, then Force knowledge, and finally, Force mastery.

MAUL
Raw power: Actually, dunno
Knowledge: sub-Yuon Par
Mastery: Lana Beniko

DOOKU
Raw power: Act 2 Hero of Tython / Scourge
Knowledge: Darth Zash
Mastery: Darth Zash / Hero of Tython / Emperor's Wrath II

DARTH VADER
Raw power: Act 3 Hero of Tython / Act 3 Darth Nox
Knowledge: Darth Zash?
Mastery: Dunno

Maul - Barsen'thor

Dooku - Malgus.

Vader - Jadus.

I'd like an intelligent human to answer this pls.

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All in excess of Vitiate

Maul is Wrath-tier, Dooku is Nox-tier and Vader is Jadus-tier, yeah.

Originally posted by ILS
All in excess of Vitiate

I don't think dooku and vader are nox/jadus tier. Vader maybe closer than dooku but I'd put dooku on wrath level and maybe vader on nox level.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Maul is Wrath-tier, Dooku is Nox-tier and Vader is Jadus-tier, yeah.

This really hurts my eyes.

Wait Beni, you have Jadus > Revan?

Er, no.

Maul is a bit tricky in terms of force mastery, as it never seemed like he reached a high level of precision, power definitely, but he was always more rage-fueled and the "lash out" type than compared to say Dooku. Thus...

Raw Power: N/A (Baras level?)
Knowledge: No idea TBH; I'd assume not much though considering the limited abilities he showcases and it's fairly clear the saber is more Maul's MO.
Mastery: < Baras

Dooku I have as moderately below Nox as of Act 3 at full amp. Enough for Nox to win a Force only confrontation. Thus....

Raw Power: > Thanaton
Knowledge: < Thanaton
Mastery: ~ Thanaton

Vader is somewhere between the protags and Revan. With Revan being > Vader IMO purely in force capabilities.

Raw Power (realized): < Revan (potential) > All force-users obviously
Knowledge: < Revan
Mastery: < Revan

Originally posted by Vixas
Knowledge: > Revan
Mastery: > Revan
You mean <, right?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You mean <, right? [/QUOTE

That was a typo on my part, meant to be the other way around.

Wait a second.. How does dooku have more knowledge and mastery than thanaton? And then how does vader have more knowledge and mastery than vader?


Edit: just saw mistake

Number of techniques isn't the only indication of mastery, especially in canon where most characters are pretty much TK/TP/Lightning and that's about it.

An example I'd cite is a dark side novice in the form of Quinlan Vos conjuring a small storm of Lightning around an enemy he was choking based on raw instinct. There's varying degrees of mastery in every realm of the Force.

Maul and Dooku are probably above Malgus and the Protags, with Dooku probably being on par with Arcann.

Vader would be closest to Revan, and above Arcann and the Outlander and the protags.

Originally posted by ILS
All in excess of Vitiate
And Revan, I suppose.

Originally posted by carthage

Vader would be closest to Revan

I'm surprised that you have Revan above Vader tbh.


Anyway, I'd put Vader in the league of Revan and somewhat below Vitiate right after Nathema. Dooku is on par with Arcann, Maul is somewhat below Jadus.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Maul - Barsen'thor

Dooku - Malgus.

Vader - Jadus.

Vader - between Revan and Arcann

Dooku - around Arcann or Jadus level

Maul - around Wrath or Nox level

I remember the days when Jadus was above Vader and Thanaton was Dooku tier.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I remember the days when Jadus was above Vader and Thanaton was Dooku tier.

I see them to this day

I still have Jadus above Vader, as a force user at least.

Thanaton's pretty good in terms of knowledge, tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqg538IU_nM

Impressive.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I still have Jadus above Vader, as a force user at least.

facepalm

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I still have Jadus above Vader, as a force user at least.
This is interesting. Is it based completely off Jadus' teleportation? And as a combative force user or just in power? I'd like to hear your reasoning.

It's based off his feat of constantly holding his ship together with the Force similar to Nihilus.

So non-combatively. I can somewhat accept that

Jadus should be capable of applying his power combatively.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Maul is Wrath-tier, Dooku is Nox-tier and Vader is Jadus-tier, yeah.

How high is maul ranked now?

Scourge tier.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Scourge tier.
Maul fanboy.

Maul is Act 1 Nox tier.

Dooku and Vader are ahead of Arcann and Jadus, but below Revan.

Originally posted by MythLord
Maul is Act 1 Nox tier.

Dooku and Vader are ahead of Arcann and Jadus, but below Revan.
Tho Vader is Revans near equal, imo.

Maul is honestly inferior to the protags

Dooku and Vader are still their superiors though

Originally posted by carthage
Maul and Dooku are probably above Malgus and the Protags, with Dooku probably being on par with Arcann.


lol how people change.