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Hammond would be a better fight. Hercules stomps John.


Unless thats mortal herc that you're using from the pic then Herc loses

Not Hammond, not mortal.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not Hammond

You don't say?

did the number 4 give it away.

Not to Sin, it didnt.

well, the coolest ever version of herc, who actually lacks the feats of 616 herc dealt with this without trouble:

http://imgur.com/a/4XXmM

that herc is from a potential future 616 who referenced many of his 616 adventures but is by definition an alt herc. still, worth showing.

Ah, thanks man.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not to Sin, it didnt.

Except she didn't pick Jim Hammond, Only said it would better with Hammond.

She didnt pick Johnny either, technically.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Except she didn't pick Jim Hammond, Only said it would better with Hammond.

You should totes start that thread once you unstick that thumb.

Yet another Riv vs KMC thread

Torch should win... flight, maneuverability, ranged attacks, featureless environment.

Can Torches heat hurt guys like Herc, Thor, Superman?

I think I can recall torch being thunderclapped before

He can burn the oxygen around Herc... that trick worked for GR when he faced the Hulk. Herc is no Hulk and Johnny's control over flames is greater.

Thunderclap would work in comics, but in a forum scenario, HT is not likely to get close enough to Herc for that strategy to work...

don't think i've seen johnny pull that trick... in a ring scenario, johnny also has only so far he can run. and herc can jump...really far. herc could launch debris and as johnny deals with it follow it and ko him easily with a hit or t-clap. not impossible for torch to take one, but i can't see him doing more than that.

He's done better things, like absorbing all the heat from Graviton's body:

http://i.imgur.com/VIZWiuh.jpg

Replicating GR's feat should be a piece of cake with that degree of control, imho. But I can't recall HT doing it either, so let's leave it for now.

Originally posted by leonidas
in a ring scenario

Not a ring

Originally posted by leonidas
herc could launch debris

Could he? Even though it's a completely featureless environment?

See, a default forum scenario is helping HT a lot...

He's burnt oxygen around people before.

Sucked all the moisture out of She Hulk.

I reckon he can do similar to Herc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sucked all the moisture out of She Hulk.

Correct

http://i.imgur.com/HGwOwrb.jpg

Does IH require oxygen?

^^^thats a really good question. Gotta look for scans.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yet another Riv vs KMC thread
Only if you make it one. And since thats never worked out for you...https://raypeatforum.com/community/styles/smilies/smug.gif