Meetra Surik vs. Savage Opress
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carthage
Force sabers all out
chingchangwalla
Probably Savage
AncientPower
Rofl, Meetra solidly.
chingchangwalla
Originally posted by AncientPower
Rofl, Meetra solidly.
Is a Savage win worthy of a ROFL? I think not.
You must have Meetra decently high AP, Kenobi level?
AncientPower
Higher than Kenobi, but she's a completely different kind of Jedi from Kenobi.
Savage would be raped against Meetra's precognition and form analysis, she also isn't going to be phased by his saberstaff.
His strength could factor in, but Meetra has vast reserves of endurance and stamina.
chingchangwalla
Originally posted by AncientPower
Higher than Kenobi, but she's a completely different kind of Jedi from Kenobi.
Savage would be raped against Meetra's precognition and form analysis, she also isn't going to be phased by his saberstaff.
His strength could factor in, but Meetra has vast reserves of endurance and stamina.
Solid points.
Tondemonai
Originally posted by AncientPower
Higher than Kenobi, but she's a completely different kind of Jedi from Kenobi.
Savage would be raped against Meetra's precognition and form analysis, she also isn't going to be phased by his saberstaff.
His strength could factor in, but Meetra has vast reserves of endurance and stamina.

SunRazer
I'd give Savage a bit more credit, but yeah, he loses.
Azronger
Originally posted by AncientPower
Rofl, Meetra solidly.
ILS
You're all heathens.
Savage cracks her spine.
Beniboybling
Meetra's attempt to copy his form makes her a sloppy rubbish fighter, Savage kills her with his horns.
TenebrousWay
Originally posted by SunRazer
I'd give Savage a bit more credit, but yeah, he loses.
JKBart
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Meetra's attempt to copy his form makes her a sloppy rubbish fighter, Savage kills her with his horns.
Zenwolf
I guess Calo Nord could copy Boba and Jango's bounty hunting tactics and beat them too.
Vixas
Meetra. Her victory over a Master of the unpredictable form 7 in Atris has me, rightfully, convinced anything Savage's own brute-force powered and comparatively sloppier fighting style could achieve would be null and void.
cs_zoltan
Qui-Gon beat a Juyo master too, that means he beats Savage as well?
cs_zoltan
They sparred and Anoon acknowledged Qui-Gon as his superior.
cs_zoltan
Sorry that I didn't make my post retardproof.
SunRazer
How does Savage win? I'm not seeing him being more skilled, and he's not using his strength nor raw telekinetic power to bowl over Surik.
Ursumeles
What are Meetras best force feats btw?
I am interested if she would also win against an angry Savage.
Probably, as I see even an Angey Savagas TK<<Trayas on a DS Nexus. Still interested, I will wank her, too

SunRazer
Originally posted by Ursumeles
What are Meetras best force feats btw?
I am interested if she would also win against an angry Savage.
Probably, as I see even an Angey Savagas TK<<Trayas on a DS Nexus. Still interested, I will wank her, too
Scourge thinks she's stronger than Satele Shan, and Kreia thinks that Surik's powerful enough to telekinetically haul one of the ships orbiting Malachor V and in its gravity well, whilst "drowned in the dark side".
Then there's the fact that Traya on a colossal geyser of dark side energies couldn't overcome Surik with her powers, and on neutral ground, Traya's Drained to death the remnants of the Jedi Council, comprised of three Masters, each of whom could do this:
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/5374267-twoenclaves.jpg
Regarding my point about strength, Traya wasn't even moved by an enraged Wookiee's strike (Chewbacca tore apart TIE fighters, IIRC), and Surik overcame Traya on a colossal geyser of DS energies, before improving. Can't see Surik being majorly affected by Savage's strength.
Of course, I'm using KotOR II versions here. The novel version would lose, yeah.
cs_zoltan
Hmmm, I shouldn't talk to the sock again. When they delete his comments it looks like I'm talking to myself.
NewGuy01
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Hmmm, I shouldn't talk to the sock again. When they delete his comments it looks like I'm talking to myself.
Use the quote function.
cs_zoltan
Nah, it's not like he says anything worth keeping around.
Ursumeles
Originally posted by SunRazer
Scourge thinks she's stronger than Satele Shan, and Kreia thinks that Surik's powerful enough to telekinetically haul one of the ships orbiting Malachor V and in its gravity well, whilst "drowned in the dark side".
Then there's the fact that Traya on a colossal geyser of dark side energies couldn't overcome Surik with her powers, and on neutral ground, Traya's Drained to death the remnants of the Jedi Council, comprised of three Masters, each of whom could do this:
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/5374267-twoenclaves.jpg
Regarding my point about strength, Traya wasn't even moved by an enraged Wookiee's strike (Chewbacca tore apart TIE fighters, IIRC), and Surik overcame Traya on a colossal geyser of DS energies, before improving. Can't see Surik being majorly affected by Savage's strength.
Of course, I'm using KotOR II versions here. The novel version would lose, yeah.
Hmm....is that good enough to put her above Obi-Wan in Sabers and/or All-out? Force she imo wins, not getting ragdolled by an Dooku-Tier opponent on a DS Nexus is impressive.
Ursumeles
Not you again

That is Plagueis .
SunRazer
@Zoltan - Pretty sure you were talking to a Jack sock.
Ursumeles
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Hmm....is that good enough to put her above Obi-Wan in Sabers and/or All-out? Force she imo wins, not getting ragdolled by an Dooku-Tier opponent on a DS Nexus is impressive.
@SunRazer
SunRazer
I put her around the same level as Obi-Wan in sabers by her prime.
Traya's above Dooku as a Force user, by the way.
TheKnight
Originally posted by SunRazer
I put her around the same level as Obi-Wan in sabers by her prime.
Traya's above Dooku as a Force user, by the way.
Where do you have her as a force user ?
SunRazer
Originally posted by TheKnight
Where do you have her as a force user ?
At her absolute strongest? Above Traya, as both Sion and Traya forecast in KotOR II.
She doesn't keep that status for long, though. Also, she's much more of the "inherently powerful" type, rather than the "dominate everyone/destroy everything" type. She's much more of a generalist with regards to the Force as well, specializing only in Sever Force and Force Bonds.
EDIT: Never mind, I thought you were asking me about Meetra. For Traya, she's above Dooku's tier, clearly. I wouldn't quite put her on par with someone like Vader in terms of raw power, of course. With knowledge and mastery, I'd put her above Vader, tbh.
Ursumeles
I have Traya>Dooku as force User as well -and I wank Dooku pretty hard, nearly Wollf Level

-, but she is imo in his Tier.
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