Asajj Ventress vs. Tholme & Quinlan Vos

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|King Joker|
Only Legends feats allowed. Battle takes place on Kashyyyk.

McP
Legends only? Ventress in a very close fight...? Split? Not sure, have to re-read some Republic comics.

Emperordmb
Ventress. Tholme isn't enough to close the gap.

McP
At the end of Republic series, Vos alone was nearly as strong as Bulq (he killed him, but still, I consider Bulq to be stronger) and Thole wasn't far behind. Even Dooku praised his skills during their fight. And Legends!Ventress is far inferior to Dooku.

MythLord
Ventress is canonically greater than Vos, as it is, and in Dark Disciple she seems to kill Tholme rather quickly...

She can take it.

McP
Eeemm... is DD a part of Legends?

MythLord
Just noticed it's only EU... Ventress can still take it, ngl.

McP
She can, but for clear majority?

MythLord
Perhaps. She's no fool when it comes to tooling around with multiple Jedi, and has blitzed droids meant to replicate the ways Jedi fight(so worth about an average Knight, I'd say).

UCanShootMyNova
Ventress.

SunRazer
Ventress wins.

chingchangwalla
Well Vos' knowledge of Vaapad could turn the tables tbh and he has a habit of defeating enemies far greater than him in skill; Bulq and Karkko

MythLord
Karkko isn't more skilled than Vos, lmao. And Vos only sliced Bulq ala Kenobi/Maul, as in he simply took advantage of a defensive lapse.

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by MythLord
Karkko isn't more skilled than Vos, lmao. And Vos only sliced Bulq ala Kenobi/Maul, as in he simply took advantage of a defensive lapse.
Karkko isn't more skilled with a saber obviously, but in terms of combative force power he shits on Quin. So taking advantage of openings doesn't count as a win now?

MythLord
Well you were referring to skill in your original post. And he shat on Vos on a DS nexus, and Quin was pre-prime.

Given how that opening is the equivalent of Maul and Kenobi on Naboo -- the Jedi is already defeated, so the arrogant Dark Sider leaves himself exposed for a final strike -- it is not a showing of skill by any means.

ILS
Would side with the team. By the end of the series, Vos remarks continuously that he feels a stronger connection to the Force and now has the mental clarity he's been seeking for the whole series. Fighting Bulq, he was "seeing red" and couldn't even hear anyone, and is presented as having an internal fight with the embodiment of his Dark Side version in his own mind while trying to take on Bulq at the same time. Not ideal circumstances for a Jedi.

Order 66!Vos is likely going to be much better than conflicted rage-filled Vos, who can already hang on against Sora Bulq for minutes. Add in the improvement and Tholme and I don't see Ventress winning.

MythLord
Asajj is already canonically better than Vos, though this is prior to his improvement, but then again it is prior to her improvement as well. mmm

cs_zoltan
Disney canonically or Legends canonically?

UCanShootMyNova
Believe he's referring to Legends.

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