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Battle takes blade in the ruins of the Hidden Leaf post Pain destruction.

I think oozaru is stronger, but if tge fox bites his tail by chance he wins

Oozaru is a weak feeb compared to Kurama.

Woah there....

Originally posted by SquallX
Oozaru is a weak feeb compared to Kurama.

Based on...?

Originally posted by SquallX
Oozaru is a weak feeb compared to Kurama.
Goku's oozaru killed gohan, who was stronger than roshi?

Nine Tails stomps.

Reasons?

Originally posted by SquallX
Oozaru is a weak feeb compared to Kurama.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Nine Tails stomps.

Still waiting for arguments...

Arguments:

Kid Goku Oozaru feats: Trashed a castle.

Kuruma: Breaking free of planetary devastation in a weaker state (of only half his actual chakra)

Also, Gohan wasn't stronger than Roshi.

Roshi was always known as the strongest man on earth. Gohan's advanced power at Baba's castle was due to training in the afterlife. We see an entire culture built on dead martial artists training in Z.

Gohan spent his afterlife hitting on babes, not training

Naruto at 4 tails will win. I don't see oozaro form taking a piercing attack from orochimaru.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Arguments:

Kid Goku Oozaru feats: Trashed a castle.

Kuruma: Breaking free of planetary devastation in a weaker state (of only half his actual chakra)

Also, Gohan wasn't stronger than Roshi.

Roshi was always known as the strongest man on earth. Gohan's advanced power at Baba's castle was due to training in the afterlife. We see an entire culture built on dead martial artists training in Z.

Closing argument: DBZ sucks only slightly less then it's fanboys.

Everyone has their opinions, and they should all be respected, unless they are as ludicrous as saying that Naruto operates on a higher power level than DBZ when people as weak as Saiyan Saga Vegita can destroy planets, and we have yet to see a single person in Naruto destroy so much as a continent. I think it's fair, however, to say that Kurama would win this, even his half form, given that Oozaru Kid Goku is probably mountain-range busting level at best.

Its obvious that Z operates much higher than Naruto Shippuden. But at this stage of ten tailed junjuriki and Kaguya, arguments against DB can be made.

So you saying 4 tail win then? Because I don't see how oozaro is going to catch him or deal with a virus while being knocked around.

I'm giving this to tails but ending game Goku, the one who fought Junior would destroy anyone in Naruto imo.

Originally posted by SquallX
Oozaru is a weak feeb compared to Kurama. No?...

Oozaru' are at least a 10,000 power level.

At least you agree that tail beast naruto beats oozaro.

Who gives a **** about power level in naruto? Tail beast win.

Dvampire making cryptic, confusing statements that seem barely on subject as usual

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No?...

Oozaru' are at least a 10,000 power level.

Actually. By power levels, Oozaru is roughly a 10X bonus.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Actually. By power levels, Oozaru is roughly a 10X bonus.

In other words ~100

You think goku only had a level of ten?

Iirc he was only 4 when he killed Gohan. He only had a PL of 400ish as of his Raditz fight, so it doesn't seem too far fetched that he'd be around that level. Probably more like 50, now that I think about it, given that he trained with Gohan.

Tbh I would put Kurama at like 3k maximum, given that he's a casual mountain-range buster.

That's nearly 3X stronger than raditz. One of the guys whose job it was to wipe out all indigenous life on a planet. I feel 900 would be more than enough to casually take out a mountain or two.

Iirc Piccolo Jr destroyed an entire mountain range during the World Tournament. His pl was only about 400 as of his fight with Raditz, so it stands to reason that he was ~300 back then. I would argue that Kurama is no lower than 500 though.

I could see Kurama clocking in the high hundreds to the low thousands in the Z-verse.

At 50, goku's oozaru would clock in 500. So that's around kurama

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I could see Kurama clocking in the high hundreds to the low thousands in the Z-verse.

Naah, Goku during the end of DB would kill him.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Iirc Piccolo Jr destroyed an entire mountain range during the World Tournament. His pl was only about 400 as of his fight with Raditz, so it stands to reason that he was ~300 back then. I would argue that Kurama is no lower than 500 though.

Piccolo destroyed a huge island and later on blew the moon up at the same power level and that was at a power level of 300. He then later on tanked a super Kamehameha from Goku.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Dvampire making cryptic, confusing statements that seem barely on subject as usual

That is his signature move.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I could see Kurama clocking in the high hundreds to the low thousands in the Z-verse.

Kurama is roughly a mountain buster.

Roshi is a moon buster, as was Piccolo, when his power level was roughly in the 300's.

Oozaru Kid Goku vaporizes Kurama with a single mouth blast. Or he simply rips him apart with his bare hands. It would literally take the Jyuubi just to give a baby Oozaru a decent fight.

4 tail kills the weak ass oozaro form of goku or vegeta from z.

The creator is calling y'all asses dumb if you truly believe that piccolo can blow up the moon without super sight ( look at piccolos expression, basically don't use the feat americans) and the ability to guide his blast toward the planet since the moon can be located any where in space no matter how large it may look out in space from earth. How do you think mankind will survive in darkness? Piccolo is stupid just like y'all if y'all see that as a valid feat. Power levels are bs.😯

Originally posted by dvampire
The creator is calling y'all asses dumb if you truly believe that piccolo can blow up the moon without super sight ( look at piccolos expression, basically don't use the feat americans) and the ability to guide his blast toward the planet since the moon can be located any where in space no matter how large it may look out in space from earth. How do you think mankind will survive in darkness? Piccolo is stupid just like y'all if y'all see that as a valid feat. Power levels are bs.😯

Who's stronger, Super Saipan Blue Vegeta or Namekian saga Frieza?

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Iirc Piccolo Jr destroyed an entire mountain range during the World Tournament. His pl was only about 400 as of his fight with Raditz, so it stands to reason that he was ~300 back then. I would argue that Kurama is no lower than 500 though.

Rememeber with Piccolo, while he was around high 300s his massive KI attacks clocked near 1000.

It important to remember that the Z fighters have signature moves with higher Power levels than their actual bodies.

While I'm at it. I'd wager a guess that the beast bombs work similarly.

Originally posted by dvampire
Who gives a **** about power level in naruto? Tail beast win.
But Oozaru has one thing that 9 tails will never have. THUMBS!!

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Rememeber with Piccolo, while he was around high 300s his massive KI attacks clocked near 1000.

It important to remember that the Z fighters have signature moves with higher Power levels than their actual bodies.

That's when powering up. He didn't power up during the moon busting scene though. It took Piccolo an episode and a half to power up in the 1000's.

Are you guys ****ing retarded? How can mankind see without the moon? ( hint, SEE). Look at piccolos face expression? Not to confident (hint, SEE). 4 tail whoops vegetas oozaro form ass with ease. Can he stop a virus or his regen? I hiiiiiiiiiighly doubt it considering AGRESSION (it ain't vegeta).

Originally posted by dvampire
Are you guys ****ing retarded? How can mankind see without the moon? ( hint, SEE). Look at piccolos face expression? Not to confident (hint, SEE). 4 tail whoops vegetas oozaro form ass with ease. Can he stop a virus or his regen? I hiiiiiiiiiighly doubt it considering AGRESSION (it ain't vegeta).

Reasoning for your (baseless) claims? And are you kidding? He did destroy the moon, it's as clear as Goku's superiority to Naruto

Foxes don't have thumbs, monkeys do. The oozaru has an evolutionary advantage one cannot deny

Four Tails (Son Goku) > Kurama confirmed

You got it dumb ass. 4 tail dominates begets in oozaro form and goku BETTER charge an kamehameha wave or its his death( like death of superman). I know what you thinking, it's your faaaaaaavorite! It's an easy win for 4 tail retard. It's an eaaaaaaaaaasy win for 4 tail retard.

Originally posted by dvampire
You got it dumb ass. 4 tail dominates begets in oozaro form and goku BETTER charge an kamehameha wave or its his death( like death of superman). I know what you thinking, it's your faaaaaaavorite! It's an easy win for 4 tail retard. It's an eaaaaaaaaaasy win for 4 tail retard.

1. I literally couldn't understand what you were saying, but it clearly isn't related to what I was saying.
2. If you're going to respond to me, actually do so with legibility and relevance to what I was saying.

Going off Naruto lore, the original ten tails CREATED chakra. That makes the Sage a high end abstract, given he defeated a being that practically created the universe.

Nine Tails should be well and above all of dbz.

The creator of the Naruto universe has never even been remotely discussed, and the notion that Obito is on that level is rediculous and hilarious.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
The creator of the Naruto universe has never even been remotely discussed, and the notion that Obito is on that level is rediculous and hilarious.

No, the ten tails was most definately said to be the source of chakra.

And chakra is the Naruto-verses whole world. It's what everyone depends on. Just like ki is DBZ is their whoke universe, money is the real worlds.

Or what, you thought I was speaking literally? Your assumption.

SMH

Originally posted by Tondemonai
1. I literally couldn't understand what you were saying, but it clearly isn't related to what I was saying.
2. If you're going to respond to me, actually do so with legibility and relevance to what I was saying.

Probably because you a fan and using a passive agressive tactic in this debate. That's why you don't understand. 4 will literally kill both goku and vegeta in oozaru or normal form with ease. They don't have enough hitting power. Can they take a virus?

foxes don't have thumbs dude.

I think Kurama does, though. mmm

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
foxes don't have thumbs dude.
But they have tails. Passive aggressive much lately? 4 tails win easy. They can't handle the suffering.

I can't even tell if you're talking about Naruto anymore

Originally posted by dvampire
But they have tails. Passive aggressive much lately? 4 tails win easy. They can't handle the suffering.

foxes' tails are just for balance, while a monkey tail can be used to grasp. thats another evolutionary advantage for the oozaru

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
foxes' tails are just for balance, while a monkey tail can be used to grasp. thats another evolutionary advantage for the oozaru
Can they evolve pass rotting to death? Ok no. Good!

At least they're not so weak they need nine tails just to keep them from falling over.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
At least they're not so weak they need nine tails just to keep them from falling over.
But 4 tails ain't weak that that it'll lose its power from having its tail cut off. Still think they can resist rotting to death? Living single.

9 tails> 4 tails> no tails. Foxes do indeed loose their power when you chop off its tails. Facts. Check yours. Monkeys are inherently superior to foxes.

Well I think we can all agree that the new KMC stupidest poster award, goes to dvampire.

But in all seriousness, Oozaru Kid Goku would be on par with the ten tails. He would eat Kurama.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
9 tails> 4 tails> no tails. Foxes do indeed loose their power when you chop off its tails. Facts. Check yours. Monkeys are inherently superior to foxes. just not 4 tail. Can he stop the virus dumb nut? It's obvious who wins. Who's faster? 4 tail. Who's more durable? 4 TAIL. Orochimaru will kick his ass. And I'm talking about vegeta. 4 tail wins.

Goku loses. GG.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Goku loses. GG.

Again, Great Ape's are all moon/planetary level at the least. The Jyuubi is the weakest thing at that level of power, in Naruto.

Goku eats Kurama.

Goku dies easily by 4 tail. Where's the strength? It's a massacre.

Pretty bold words for a man backing a beast with no thumbs.

How much can goku lift? It's below 40 tons. Waaaaay below.

How much can a fox lift? Zero pounds because they don't have the grasping appendages. No thumbs bro. Can't win without thumbs.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Again, Great Ape's are all moon/planetary level at the least. The Jyuubi is the weakest thing at that level of power, in Naruto.

Goku eats Kurama.

Statements are neat but how about a feat?

Oozaru Goku has absolutely no showings that put him in the realm of moon busting. Vegeta's certainly might be able to since he used his mouth ki blast but Goku never has.

Kurama has been shown using attacks capable of leveling mountains and more importantly has physically clashed with Sasuke's Ultimate Susano'o, which destroys them casually. All Oozaru Goku has done is wreck a few buildings and throw a castle tower. Not like the landscape near Goku's house was ravaged by him that we can see.

It should also be noted that Goku was explicitly not sent to destroy it but to live/hide from Freeza. If Bardock though Goku would cause that much destruction he would have found somewhere else to send him.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
How much can a fox lift? Zero pounds because they don't have the grasping appendages. No thumbs bro. Can't win without thumbs.
How much do you think the earth guy from the sound 4 can lift? It should be muuuuuch clearer once you see him lift choii with one arm. 4 tails is greater than him in strength period.