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Thanos.
Power gem > runes

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Thanos.
Power gem > runes

No.

Rune King Thor can stop time and take the gem from him.

RKT

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
No.

Rune King Thor can stop time and take the gem from him. Depends if he knows about the gem. Plus the titan is too smart to let RKT take that.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Depends if he knows about the gem. Plus the titan is too smart to let RKT take that.

Thanos would have to consciously tap into the gem to maximize its power. Rune King Thor won't allow him that time. In addition, the Runes make Thor omniscient, so he would know.

Thanos w/PG wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos w/PG wins.

DAMN LIES!

Rune King Thor wins. This is another situation that one guy is beyond the physical laws of the immediate universe perhaps even reality, which includes all things physical in the multiverse. While on the other hand the other guy has power. What is all of that power going to do to a guy outside of the laws by which that power exists? What? Is Thanos going to kill the dead? How would that work out exactly?

Thanos, easily.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
DAMN LIES! Originally posted by Stoic
Rune King Thor wins. This is another situation that one guy is beyond the physical laws of the immediate universe perhaps even reality, which includes all things physical in the multiverse. While on the other hand the other guy has power. What is all of that power going to do to a guy outside of the laws by which that power exists? What? Is Thanos going to kill the dead? How would that work out exactly?
Guys, the Power Gem is the most powerful of the gems. It's the one that amps all the other gems to universal+ levels.
http://s21.postimg.org/d30y1w6hf/Power_Gem.jpg

Thanos knows the gems inside out (that's why the trick Warlock used to get the Gauntlet away from Nebula wouldn't work vs Thanos). Thanos with the Power Gem is abstract level. RKT was Elder God level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos, easily.

Prove it, Thanosi.

Just from what he displayed in his fight against the heroes, there's nothing there RKT couldn't have done.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Just from what he displayed in his fight against the heroes, there's nothing there RKT couldn't have done.
He was toying with them to impress Death. Why are we forgetting this fact.

Remember when Strange, with all his artifacts, was facing off against Warlock with the IG? He was countering the Gems, effect for effect till he got to the Power Gem. Then he knew he was about to be obliterated.
http://s15.postimg.org/vqst136hz/5177009_infinitygauntlet2.jpg

The Power Gem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the other gems. It's what amps them to universal+ levels. Thanos knows the gems inside out. Thanos with the Power Gem is abstract level (minimum).

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
No.

Rune King Thor can stop time and take the gem from him. Wouldn't work. Cronos tried time shenanigans and got ruined

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Prove it, Thanosi. It is more powerful than anything Thor can tap into in the hands someone competent and more intelligent than Thor. You're welcome.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Wouldn't work. Cronos tried time shenanigans and got ruined
That was with whole IG.

Thor with power gem got captured in a stasis beam.

Yeah I didn't read the title.

The force block (if that's what you're referring to) is not the same as time stop, it's seems like that's just a physical restraint. Time freezing is a hell of a lot worse

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was with whole IG.

Thor with power gem got captured in a stasis beam.

Agreed. Context is a real thing, which seems to have been sidestepped in favor of Universal+ power. Rune King reached omniscient levels, so how again would Thanos be smarter than this version of Thor with just the power gem? Again, there isn't one thing that Thanos could do to a guy that is beyond death. What's he going to do, kill him? On the flip side, Thanos may likely be able to weather anything that Rune King dished due to the power gem's ability to amplify his defenses to unknown levels. One thing is certain though. Thanos would have no physical effect on this version of Thor. This is something that's been left out in favor of Thanos being overall more powerful, which isn't true. Even with the power gem, Thanos would have to resist being torn apart by never before seen magics.

Thanos may win if he had the entire gauntlet though. Power gem alone? Not very likely.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is more powerful than anything Thor can tap into in the hands someone competent and more intelligent than Thor. You're welcome.

The Runes made Thor omniscient so how could the EMO EGGPLANT be more "Competent" and "Intelligent" than Thor?

Originally posted by zopzop
Guys, the Power Gem is the most powerful of the gems. It's the one that amps all the other gems to universal+ levels.
http://s21.postimg.org/d30y1w6hf/Power_Gem.jpg

Thanos knows the gems inside out (that's why the trick Warlock used to get the Gauntlet away from Nebula wouldn't work vs Thanos). Thanos with the Power Gem is abstract level. RKT was Elder God level.
I am one of the biggest Thanos supporters but come on mate, PG Thanos is nowhere near abstract level.

Abstracts like eternity/infinity/death/oblivion are multiversal in power.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thanos would have to consciously tap into the gem to maximize its power. Rune King Thor won't allow him that time. In addition, the Runes make Thor omniscient, so he would know.
Do runes make him more omniscient than multiversal abstracts like death or eternity? If yes, then maybe he can use his "all knowing knowledge" on thanos, but if not, then I doubt he can do anything , because Thanos has gotten around multiversal abstracts without them knowing what he is up to.
Also, even mere champion was able to tap into the power of gem subconsciously, let alone Thanos who perfectly understands the workings and can control the gems fully.

Originally posted by Stoic


Thanos may win if he had the entire gauntlet though. Power gem alone? Not very likely. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How does Thanos kill what is already dead? He can have all power over physical constructs or beings, but he wouldn't over a character that isn't bound to universal laws like life and death. So this is something that should be thought about carefully. No Thanos can not win, although he would have greater power than RKT, he would not be able to put him down, because he's already dead. Do you get it? However the Rune magic may be able to mess with a creature tethered to the physical plane. The problem comes when people rely on the tiers, and power levels as a means of making decisions, instead of looking at the topic for what it is. Beating RKT with power alone instead of by divine edict would be like defeating Namor and Aquaman with a bucket of water. Thanos simply doesn't have the tools to win this.

Originally posted by Stoic
How does Thanos kill what is already dead? He can have all power over physical constructs or beings, but he wouldn't over a character that isn't bound to universal laws like life and death. So this is something that should be thought about carefully. No Thanos can not win, although he would have greater power than RKT, he would not be able to put him down, because he's already dead. Do you get it? However the Rune magic may be able to mess with a creature tethered to the physical plane. The problem comes when people rely on the tiers, and power levels as a means of making decisions, instead of looking at the topic for what it is. Beating RKT with power alone instead of by divine edict would be like defeating Namor and Aquaman with a bucket of water. Thanos simply doesn't have the tools to win this. wait are you saying that the avatar of death herself couldn't kill RKT if required?

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Do runes make him more omniscient than multiversal abstracts like death or eternity? If yes, then maybe he can use his "all knowing knowledge" on thanos, but if not, then I doubt he can do anything , because Thanos has gotten around multiversal abstracts without them knowing what he is up to.
Also, even mere champion was able to tap into the power of gem subconsciously, let alone Thanos who perfectly understands the workings and can control the gems fully.


How would the Power Gem negate Rune King Thor stopping time and attacking Thanos?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
How would the Power Gem negate Rune King Thor stopping time and attacking Thanos?
Why would power gem negate time stop? It won't. However, a case can be made for Thanos being immune to time stop, as he is outside the order of reality as said by Eternity himself. However, it would be basing this battle on statements, so I won't go there.
But on topic, we do know that power gem has universal+ level of power (atleast in Thanos's hands), and rkt has done nothing to show himself above universal+. So while it is unlikely that rkt will start the fight with a time stop, and also unlikely that time stop of rkt level will even affect Thanos, even if it does, what will rkt do to a universal+ level being in power?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The Runes made Thor omniscient so how could the EMO EGGPLANT be more "Competent" and "Intelligent" than Thor? When did they make him omniscient ? Thanos has more substantial experiences than Thor has. Intellect wise with both in the same story Thanos is the brains while Thor is the warrior. This isn't groundbreaking news.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
wait are you saying that the avatar of death herself couldn't kill RKT if required?

Yes because RKT was outside of those laws. Death ceased to have any meaning to him. The same thing applies to DS Sentry. I'm not arguing that RKT is more powerful than Thanos could become with the PG. I'm saying that fighting RKT would be a lot like us trying to grab a guy made of air. He'd simply have no power over RKT.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes because RKT was outside of those laws. Death ceased to have any meaning to him. The same thing applies to DS Sentry. I'm not arguing that RKT is more powerful than Thanos could become with the PG. I'm saying that fighting RKT would be a lot like us trying to grab a guy made of air. He'd simply have no power over RKT. death the entity is above RKT, if he was meant to kill him as avatar of death RKT would die.

Oh, and Thanos can kill immortals as far as I'm aware.

It's not that Thor doesn't die, it's that he can resurrect himself. This may or may not count as a forum win, but I don't think people care about a scenario where Thor would endlessly ressurect until he wins via attrition...lol

The reason he died at the end of Ragnarok was because he used all the rune magic to break the cycle.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
death the entity is above RKT, if he was meant to kill him as avatar of death RKT would die.

Death the entity only has power over those that are in line with it's rules. RKT was outside of Death's influence. There are several characters that are outside of Death's influence. It becomes less about the displays of power, when that power is not felt because the other being was completely out of phase with the physical universe. Thor pierced the veil in that story, and once he did, he was no longer affected by the laws of the physical universe, because he had become metaphysical. Thanos would have no power over him, because he wasn't like the rest of the dead, who lay in a helpless state that can be mainipulated and/or called on at any time, but without any power to resist. RKT was autonomous. Check it out. That conversation that was given to Thanos and Adam Warlock by what seemed the almighty indicated where Thanos really measured up overall. RKT's boss is that guy, not Death. Since Thanos would not possess a divine edict, RKT would simply be beyond his grasp. He pulled off an all father's head like a grape. Treated Mangog like he didn't even exist. Rume magic would be beyond Thanos' physical capacity.

Lot's of people tend to get so stuck on the tier systems beyond Superman and those guys, that they refuse to see the truth staring right at them. RKT would obliterate Galactus, for example.
No way does Thanos win this. He doesn't have the authority. Sorry.

Realize who RKT's boss is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did they make him omniscient ? Thanos has more substantial experiences than Thor has. Intellect wise with both in the same story Thanos is the brains while Thor is the warrior. This isn't groundbreaking news.

Rune King Thor clearly displays omniscience. You can see the difference once he elevated beyond King Thor level.