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Wrath Scourge

Duel takes place on neutral ground

Scourge stomps.

Scourge

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Scourge stomps.
Lol

Either way

They're extremely difficult to compare.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Lol

Either way Can you make an argument for Kolar?

You'll lose this argument in one post.

Scourge is confirmed to have stalemated the HoT at the End of Act II.

Boom, any and all arguments for Kolar are destroyed, he has no chance.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Can you make an argument for Kolar?

You'll lose this argument in one post.

Scourge is confirmed to have stalemated the HoT at the End of Act II.

Boom, any and all arguments for Kolar are destroyed, he has no chance.
The stomping part is lolworthy. Scrouge stomps Kolar, but the Daughter not Ragnos?

Kolar stomped Vos, and is one of the finest Swordsmen the Jedi Order ever had.

Kolar

Originally posted by Ursumeles
The stomping part is lolworthy. Scrouge stomps Kolar, but the Daughter not Ragnos?

Kolar stomped Vos, and is one of the finest Swordsmen the Jedi Order ever had. When did Kolar stomp Vos?

In their fight.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/agen-kolar-respect-thread-1623192/
Here you can find it.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/agen-kolar-respect-thread-1623192/
Here you can find it. Nice, but I still think Scourge wins.

Although I doubt its a stomp now.

Kolar needs to be rated higher then :/

Yeah, he does. Its hard for me to rank Scrouge, tbh.

Kolar is a bad@ss. I've always rated him highly.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yeah, he does. Its hard for me to rank Scrouge, tbh.

Above Baras, below Mid-Act III HoT.

Or, if you want exact specifics, he's shown as a direct equal to end of Act II HoT.

"You've fought Lord Scourge to a standstill".

Which means they stalemated.

Kolar

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Scourge stomps.

Kolar is good, but scourge wins in a decent fight. He has far too many notches under his belt to be undermined by Kolar handily beating Vos, who's wasn't at the height of his abilties.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Scourge is confirmed to have stalemated the HoT at the End of Act II.

Quote?

Jman posted it above.

After the battle with Scourge, your quest log states that:

Meh, cutscenes takes precedence imo, which has Scourge kneeling in front of HoT.

He could've been faking it. He does stand up like immediately after.

Why would he fake it? Besides even if he does, it's still not a standstill whatever the circumstances. Vader held back against Starkiller in TFU II, but a defeat is a defeat.

Maybe... he could have stomped HoT but wanted to cultivate him to destroy the Sith Emperor!

Although that does help to dismiss Neph's claim about Scourge claiming that HoT is the Jedi's finest... he hadn't even met Satele yet.

Regardless, the quest log probably takes precedence. That's essentially BioWare cleaning up any arbitrary interpretations of Scourge kneeling in the cutscene.

Agen stomps.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Regardless, the quest log probably takes precedence. That's essentially BioWare cleaning up any arbitrary interpretations of Scourge kneeling in the cutscene.

It's a quest log ffs, I'm sure not gona take it over actual cutscenes. If it were codex entry then maybe, but even still it would be contradicted.

What we've actually seen happen > quotes.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It's a quest log ffs, I'm sure not gona take it over actual cutscenes. If it were codex entry then maybe, but even still it would be contradicted.

What we've actually seen happen > quotes.

It's written by the actual writers of the game, though. They could well just be trying to clear up misconceptions like this.

It's not like it's some Insider ooga-booga.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Maybe... he could have stomped HoT but wanted to cultivate him to destroy the Sith Emperor!

Although that does help to dismiss Neph's claim about Scourge claiming that HoT is the Jedi's finest... he hadn't even met Satele yet.

Regardless, the quest log probably takes precedence. That's essentially BioWare cleaning up any arbitrary interpretations of Scourge kneeling in the cutscene.

No.

Lol, it isn't a claim. Scourge does say that. And Scourges whole job was to track threats to Vitiate, destroy their strongest Jedi and monitor the Jedi's situation. Not to mention literally everything in the game supports his opinion. Like when Satele does meet Scourge and then says the Hero is their greatest warrior.

A standstill as in the fighting had stopped. Scourge was on his knees without his saber. In the game you can even taunt him about the fact you won and he accepts it.

1. It was a joke.

2. Not the strongest Jedi, just those that Vitiate wanted eliminated. The strongest Jedi are obviously still alive.

3. Fair enough.

So Scourge killed more than a hundred Jedi that were more powerful than Satele. Alright, lol.

Besides, Scourge was active during Act I and early Act II, by which time you claim the HoT was the most powerful Jedi.

I mean, Satele was never unquestionably the strongest Jedi. Warren was superior to her during the war, Aryn eclipsed her, Wyellett maybe. But it's not like the Jedi Grandmaster is someone Scourge can just walk up to and kill at will during peace time. But for there to be 100 Jedi stronger than Satele in 300 years is very plausible.

The Jedi and Sith were technically at peace for most of that and it's clear Vitiate always had plans for the Hero, hence why Scourge leaves to tell him about you on Quesh instead of attacks you. Or at least, why Vitiate bought him doing that.

Scourge wouldn't be killing so many Jedi in the peace-time, lol. The vast majority of his kills should've been from the Great Galactic War and after.

I disagree, but whatever.

The fact remains that Scourge would have the best intelligence on the Jedi available.

Pretty sure that'd be Baras.

Why? Baras wasn't even Minister of Intelligence.

He had spies within the Jedi, lol.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Meh, cutscenes takes precedence imo, which has Scourge kneeling in front of HoT. You don't get to pick and choose.

From now on, I'm going to ignore the TFU Novel and only use TFU Game as evidence.

But that would be retarded now, wouldn't it?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You don't get to pick and choose.

Is that so? Yet you picked the quest log over the actual cutscene mmm

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Is that so? Yet you picked the quest log over the actual cutscene mmm Btw, I love how people assume that whenever people bow, its because they just lost.

Scourge could have easily just re-ignited his lightsaber.

Regardless, yeah, I'd rather believe what the game tells me then taking my own interpretation to heart.

It's a quest log, hardly the most credible source. And yeah, kneeling in defeat in front of your opponent is not a standstill, however you look at it.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It's a quest log, hardly the most credible source. And yeah, kneeling in defeat in front of your opponent is not a standstill, however you look at it. Neither are your eyes and your own opinion.

But I guess your word is > Bioware's word, huh?

No, it's Bioware's cutscene > Game quest log that's only purpose is to tell you where to get your fat ass.

Agen, tbh.