Kubik & Uatu vs Aron & In-Betweener

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golem370
Two on Two battle

zopzop
Kubik kills them all.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by zopzop
Kubik kills them all.

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Genii96
The in-betweener's special ability would turn the tables here.

zopzop
Originally posted by Genii96
The in-betweener's special ability would turn the tables here.
No.

What's the 'opposite' of a Cube Being?

abhilegend
Square being?

iceman24567
Originally posted by abhilegend
Square being? Its a sphere bro

Genii96
Originally posted by zopzop
No.

What's the 'opposite' of a Cube Being?

Dunno

But they have one

zopzop
Originally posted by Genii96
Dunno

But they have one
Doesn't work that way. You can't just assume they have an opposite. Besides, Kubik could probably erase IB from the multiverse, like Beyonder did to Death. The very same Beyonder that Kubik beat btw.

golem370
You mean when he killed Death? Because he was a hell of alot more then.

Galan007
^ Beyonder's feat of erasing Death has remained canon over the years, despite his multiple retcons. Said feat was most recently mentioned in the 2015 Secret Wars bio:
http://i.imgur.com/zAj3NdN.jpg
*outlined in red.

Most of his feats from SW I & II are still canon, in fact.

golem370
But saying Kubik could do it because he defeated a weaker Beyonder doesn't mean he could do the same Kubik was no way near that version of Beyonder.

Galan007
That's what you're not quite understanding. The Beyonder that Kubik shit-stomped in F4 #319 is the SAME Beyonder who killed Death in SWII. To this very day that feat remains canon to Beyonder, despite his retcons. So what zop said is correct.

golem370
So what stopped LT from stopping him back then or Eternity?

zopzop
Originally posted by golem370
So what stopped LT from stopping him back then or Eternity?
Nothing stopped Beyonder from killing Death. Not even the LT or Eternity. This event wasn't just confirmed in the Handbooks post retcon, it was also confirmed on panel.

In an issue of Quasar, Quasar travels to the Dimension of Manifestations where abstracts get M-Bodies so they can interact with physical beings. In this dimension, echoes of past events concerning abstracts still play out. Quasar witnesses the 'echoes' of the Trial of Adam Warlock w/IG and Beyonder's judgement against Death.
https://s9.postimg.org/bi338rotr/Dimension_of_Manifestations.jpg

Beyonder ERASED Death across the multiverse and the LT and entire cosmic hierarchy couldn't stop him. Kubik stomped out the Beyonder and threatened to destroy his entire universe.

Kubik destroys everyone else in this thread..............combined, with ease.

Galan007
Originally posted by golem370
So what stopped LT from stopping him back then or Eternity? The bio I posted explains that. Read it. srsly

The upper-end abstracts didn't want(or try) to attack Beyonder -- they only attempted to 'reason' with him... Which obviously didn't work, as he still erased Death after she consented.

golem370
Dumbest thing I ever heard Kubik did something LT or Kubik couldn't

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by zopzop
Nothing stopped Beyonder from killing Death. Not even the LT or Eternity. This event wasn't just confirmed in the Handbooks post retcon, it was also confirmed on panel.

In an issue of Quasar, Quasar travels to the Dimension of Manifestations where abstracts get M-Bodies so they can interact with physical beings. In this dimension, echoes of past events concerning abstracts still play out. Quasar witnesses the 'echoes' of the Trial of Adam Warlock w/IG and Beyonder's judgement against Death.
https://s9.postimg.org/bi338rotr/Dimension_of_Manifestations.jpg

Beyonder ERASED Death across the multiverse and the LT and entire cosmic hierarchy couldn't stop him. Kubik stomped out the Beyonder and threatened to destroy his entire universe.

Kubik destroys everyone else in this thread..............combined, with ease.

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This is why I rate CCU's and Cube Beings in general so highly; their feats are insane...

When a CCU/Cube Being lets lose, you start to see things that are just beyond the scope of most beings in comicbooks...regardless of wether its Marvel or DC.

Genii96
Originally posted by zopzop
Doesn't work that way. You can't just assume they have an opposite. Besides, Kubik could probably erase IB from the multiverse, like Beyonder did to Death. The very same Beyonder that Kubik beat btw.

Everything has an opposite. The only exception was galactus who represented balance and equity. Not to mention that he could use his other ability to summon ab opposing energy to yours and wipe out both . Sure there are some exertions like the upper abstracts.
The same Kubik explained that the abstracts allowed beyonder to do all that so that he could progress
The same Kubik noted that his power was below a celestial

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Genii96
The same Kubik noted that his power was below a celestial

Feats carry more weight than lip service, and Kubik (as well as virtually any CCU/Cube Being) has feats that blow those of almost of all the Celestials away...

Hell a lone CCU imprisoned multiple Celestials seemingly effortlessly...

Galan007
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A single throwaway line does not supersede on-panel feats. And like you said: CCUs and Cube Beings have feats that are infinitely superior to most of the Celestials. Granted some of the Celestials have very impressive high-end showings, but on average the race as a whole are dwarfed by Cubes.

Genii96
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Feats carry more weight than lip service, and Kubik (as well as virtually any CCU/Cube Being) has feats that blow those of almost of all the Celestials away...

Hell a lone CCU imprisoned multiple Celestials seemingly effortlessly...


Seeing as it was kubik himself who noted his inferiority to the celestials, you can't ignore it based on the fact that they have more feats.

Cube beings have feats above most abstracts. Even the multi versions ,I would love to see someone say they could beat a multi abstract too. Better yet why not say they could take on tribunal or Toaa too since their feats are more ?



We have a DIRECT comparison between them which you can't throw away because you don't like it. Kubik has no reason to lie or be afraid

Their universal and co feats don't mean a celestial can't replicate it. I don't remember a celestial failing to do so when it tried and I don't remember a celestial losing to a cubed being In a fight either



That was another reality
Alternate celestials have ranked alternate IGs and UNs
Alternate galactus was stronger than LT
Kong hyperion killed another alternate galactus
Etc

DTM
IMHO, Kubik is no where near as powerful as PreRetcon Beyonder was. Not even in the same galactic ballpark.

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