Fat Shamed Miss Piggy Ends up being being an murder accomplice in a drive by shooting
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Time-Immemorial
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-miss-universe-machado-on-allegation-she-was-a-murder-accomplice-im-not-a-saint-girl/
And threatened to Kill the judge who indicted her brother for the crime that they both committed.

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Another failed Khan Job, Mr. Khan ended up being a muslim activist, immigration lawyer who ran a sex club and brothel and went by the name kinkylicky on Ashley Madison

Time-Immemorial
https://www.facebook.com/hiddenamericans/videos/1242188899155879/
Trump wins again!
Time-Immemorial
Also turns out she is a porn star. LOL
https://s18.postimg.org/lndve4s11/Alicia_Machado.jpg
Surtur
The crazy chick says: he can say whatever he wants, everybody has a past. I wasn't a saint.
Umm...lady, that is the kind of response one would give if asked if they ever sneaked out of the house without their parents permission as a teenager. That is not the answer you give to questions about if you participated in murders.
Has literally everyone gone insane? "Everybody has a past" ? What the f*ck.
Time-Immemorial
This shows how much the Clintons really care about people. They used her for a quick attack, then disgraced and dis guarded her like the trash she is. Threatening to kill a federal judge over her bf being indicted for the crime they both committed which was murder. If you are the get away driver in a murder, you are guilty of murder as well It was actually Clinton who called her Ms Piggy.
This is what trump called her.
https://www.facebook.com/hiddenamericans/videos/1242188899155879/
Surtur
It reminds me of the one newspaper who did some interview with an ex gf of Trumps and basically edited it in a way that made it seem like she was bashing Trump.
Which backfired when literally the next day the women spoke out to various media outlets pointing out how she never bashed Trump and how he never treated her badly.
I will say what I have said before: if Trump is so awful why do people constantly need to make things up about him in order to make him seem bad?
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Also turns out she is a porn star. LOL
https://s18.postimg.org/lndve4s11/Alicia_Machado.jpg
Did you click this.
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watch this?
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or watch this?
https://www.facebook.com/hiddenamericans/videos/1242188899155879/
Surtur
Yeah, the porn thing is hilarious. Plus it says her "baby daddy is a drug lord". Now come on Hilary, surely your people could have found that information out before you started talking about her?
Time-Immemorial
Did you see what Trump actuall said about her in that facebook video?
Surtur
Yeah, and it's funny at the end she goes "this happened 20 years ago". Didn't the shit Trump supposedly did to her..happen 20 years ago?
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, and it's funny at the end she goes "this happened 20 years ago". Didn't the shit Trump supposedly did to her..happen 20 years ago?
It never happened, Hillary made it up. Like she made up landing under sniper fire.
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people will still vote for her cause they are brain dead idiots.
Surtur
Okay but the stuff that SUPPOSEDLY happened..happened a long time ago.
So they feel it's okay to bring that up, but this woman is possibly an accomplice to murder and it's "meh, it's been such a long time".
Seriously I'd love if Trump responded to this by going "Everybody has a past, I am not a saint boy."
Time-Immemorial
Just because a known liar and a murder says something does not make it supposedly true.
But I get your point.
Surtur
But if Hilary is going to make shit up she could have at least found someone else with a better past. I'm sure tons of women would be willing to talk trash about Trump for the right price.
Time-Immemorial
Thats the thing, she dont care, all her supporters and 75% of the people in this world will still believe everything that comes out of her mouth, even if its a lie.
Her fans literally think she has never lied ever. Cause she actually thinks this herself.
33 seconds in
"I dont believe I have ever have."
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Time-Immemorial
GETS BETTER!!
CNN ENDED UP PUBLISHING THIS!!!
Published on Sep 27, 2016
In 1997, Donald Trump talked with reporters about Alicia Machado's weight -- as she sat next to him on a stationery bike.
READ THE COMMENTS
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Time-Immemorial
The story that keeps on giving!
Court documents in 1998 revealed she was accused of driving her boyfriend from the scene of a murder attempt – at a woman's funeral
A judge also claimed on national television that she threatened his life
Unknown if Clinton campaign vetted Machado, 39, before debate and conference call with press on Tuesday which was almost all in Spanish

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3810484/Miss-Universe-fat-shamed-Donald-Trump-accused-threatening-kill-judge-accomplice-MURDER-native-Venezuela.html#ixzz4LedBZ1Wt
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Robtard
If anyone is a actually interested in the truth, she was accused of being the driver and making threats, but never indicted. That's not her in the anal porn scene, it's a clip from a film called "Apprentass 4", the porn actress does have a mild resemblence to Machado, mostly because they're both Latinas.
She did pose topless for Playboy though, so have at it.
Surtur
I feel her answer to the question though was very strange. It's obvious English isn't her first language so perhaps that is why?
But it still stands that she is going "this happened 20 years ago" to brush it off, but she's supposedly bringing up stuff about Trump from that long ago.
Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Robtard
If anyone is a actually interested in the truth, she was accused of being the driver and making threats, but never indicted. That's not her in the anal porn scene, it's a clip from a film called "Apprentass 4", the porn actress does have a mild resemblence to Machado, mostly because they're both Latinas.
She did pose topless for Playboy though, so have at it.
are you actually suggesting that someone just went on the internet and posted lies?
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
If anyone is a actually interested in the truth, she was accused of being the driver and making threats, but never indicted. That's not her in the anal porn scene, it's a clip from a film called "Apprentass 4", the porn actress does have a mild resemblence to Machado, mostly because they're both Latinas.
She did pose topless for Playboy though, so have at it.
So the judge is lying now, and she is telling the truth, odd way of believing people. I mean are you even listening to what you are saying? She flat out didn't even deny it, she admitted it.
we8OnvlWSHg
Is Anderson lying now?
I didn't know you had to be indicted, to be a criminal.
Robtard
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
are you actually suggesting that someone just went on the internet and posted lies?
I'm new to this interweb thing
Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So the judge is lying now, and she is telling the truth, odd way of believing people.
I'm not sure where you got that from my post, as I noted that she was accused, but never formally brought up on charges.
Time-Immemorial
And? That makes her A-Ok? Is that how liberals operate now?
"Well she was never charged"
Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
are you actually suggesting that someone just went on the internet and posted lies?
In this day and age when networks like CNN can easily, purposefully lie with the blink of an eye..of course it's possible for someone on the internet to lie silly.
Time-Immemorial
Man look at this, Trump defending the woman with the utmost class. I love how everyone on the left swallows up the lies like candy now.
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Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And? That makes her A-Ok? Is that how liberals operate now?
"Well she was never charged"
If just being accused of crimes is enough for you to condemn someone, you better take another look at Trump
Time-Immemorial
Who did Trump drive away from a murder scene. You better take another look at Hillary, or you under the assumption she has never done anything wrong criminal? Should we go down the criminal malfeasance list for her resulting in dead people?
Surtur
I still wonder about her response because it just doesn't necessarily sound like something someone who was 100% innocent would say. She did at one point try to say people just made it up about her because she is famous.
Which hey fair enough that shit happens, but then that should have really been all she said.
Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
If anyone is a actually interested in the truth, she was accused of being the driver and making threats, but never indicted. That's not her in the anal porn scene, it's a clip from a film called "Apprentass 4", the porn actress does have a mild resemblence to Machado, mostly because they're both Latinas.
She did pose topless for Playboy though, so have at it.
Since you seem to know information about her, what about the part where the father of her child was a drug lord? Was that also false?
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Originally posted by Surtur
Since you seem to know information about her, what about the part where the father of her child was a drug lord? Was that also false?
According to Rob, Every claim she made about trump is true, every claim made about her is false, get how that works?
Surtur
Well the drug lord part was left out so I assumed that was one of the things that were true.
Time-Immemorial
Like I said, According to Rob, Every claim she made about trump is true, every claim made about her is false. Funny Rob knows about her anal porn..
Surtur
I don't suppose she gave any evidence about what Trump supposedly did? Or was it just a "take my word for it" type of deal?
Time-Immemorial
Here is the evidence, have you watched it?
It really looks like he is calling her a fat piggy huh?
"She is so beautiful"
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Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Well the drug lord part was left out so I assumed that was one of the things that were true.
She claims the father of her child while a Mexican man, isn't a drug lord.
Surtur
First of all..LO f*cking L. At the end when he makes fun of the weight of the reporters..hilarious.
Second, the absolute worst thing he said was she was one of those people who eat a lot when under pressure. But he said he was one of those people too. I don't see the problem.
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
She claims the father of her child while a Mexican man, isn't a drug lord.
Yes and we are automatically supposed to believe here, when everything in her past points to be her being a crazy Venezuelan gangster gf, and a liar.
Did you even actually watch the video Rob?
Surtur
Also wait a minute, when he mocks OTHER people's weight she laughs and does a thumbs up.
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Surtur
First of all..LO f*cking L. At the end when he makes fun of the weight of the reporters..hilarious.
Second, the absolute worst thing he said was she was one of those people who eat a lot when under pressure. But he said he was one of those people too. I don't see the problem.
Its great right, he handled those people and had her back. What a bunch of clowns. Of coarse liberals will deny the videos existence even though CNN reported on it

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Like I said, According to Rob, Every claim she made about trump is true, every claim made about her is false. Funny Rob knows about her anal porn..
I did not comment on any of her claims about Trump, I commented on her being accused of two crimes, her supposed porn career and that she modelled for Playboy. So you're just trying to pick a fight.
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Surtur
Also wait a minute, when he mocks OTHER people's weight she laughs and does a thumbs up.
So in your opinion is he calling her Ms. Piggy?
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
I did not comment on any of her claims about Trump, I commented on her being accused of two crimes, her supposed porn career and that she modelled for Playboy. So you're just trying to pick a fight.
Im not, you are using claims on her side as a fact, and claims against her as here say.
Surtur
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So in your opinion is he calling her Ms. Piggy?
Just so I understand this, she said that Trump called her Ms. Piggy literally during that clip you just played? She said he called her Ms. Piggy on national television?
Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yes and we are automatically supposed to believe here, when everything in her past points to be her being a crazy Venezuelan gangster gf, and a liar.
Did you even actually watch the video Rob?
You can believe whatever you like.
No, I saw the still from your post and then looked into to see if that was really her.
Time-Immemorial
Sure she denies it, does that make it not her? Did you even see the video of her and trump, or you wont watch it?
Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Im not, you are using claims on her side as a fact, and claims against her as here say.
Below is what I wrote, which part(s) are lies and/or do you have an issue wth?
Originally posted by Robtard
If anyone is a actually interested in the truth, she was accused of being the driver and making threats, but never indicted. That's not her in the anal porn scene, it's a clip from a film called "Apprentass 4", the porn actress does have a mild resemblence to Machado, mostly because they're both Latinas.
She did pose topless for Playboy though, so have at it.
I did make an error, turns out the real porn actress in the video isn't a Latina. She just has the darker skin and hair.
Time-Immemorial
Ok so someone that looks almost identical to her is not her. The porn videos are labeled with her name for what reason? She's not even that famous.
As far as the death threats to the judge for indicting her bf whom of which committed the murder , and her being the get away driver.
Anderson Cooper asked her and instead of denying it, she said, "That was a long time ago, we all have a past, and I was no saint."
That is an admission of guilt.
Robtard
The re-labeling is easy. Anyone can post a porn clip to an open porn site and name it whatever.
Okay, my comment was that she was accused but never charged; that is the truth.
Time-Immemorial
Yes, I agree, but she admitted it.
So why are we going to take her claims as fact when we have video of Trump being the exact opposite to her and defending her weight, even making fun of himself and the reporters for weighing to much?
Time-Immemorial
Turns out the only person that called her Mrs Piggy is Hillary Clinton, who would have thought.
After all she called all the women who claimed bill raped them a "bimbo eruptions."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/90s-scandals-threaten-to-erode-hillary-clintons-strength-with-women.html?_r=0
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jaden101
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Sure she denies it, does that make it not her? Did you even see the video of her and trump, or you wont watch it?
Hopefully the video of her and Trump isn't the porno one. That'd make it exceptionally difficult to crack one out to it.
Time-Immemorial
Spanish media is reporting she did have a kid with a drug king pin.
And she did have sex on camera.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1875985/alicia-machado-live-sex-the-farm/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1869475/who-is-alicia-machado/
Surtur
Here is what I especially don't get though: they are saying Trump didn't like the fact she gained weight. Thing is..she won a beauty pageant, right? Which is mostly based on looks? So I'm confused why it's necessarily wrong or sexist for Trump to not want the looks of someone who won a competition for her looks..to change. Since isn't it usually policy that like..the winner does various shit for a year? Essentially you ARE Miss Universe until the next competition.
I mean am I missing something? Back then was the "Miss Universe" pageant about..I dunno, intellect more than your physical appearance?
Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Spanish media is reporting she did have a kid with a drug king pin.
And she did have sex on camera.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1875985/alicia-machado-live-sex-the-farm/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1869475/who-is-alicia-machado/
It's still alleged, one person who can't be named because they're a "protected witness" said the baby's father is the drug-lord Gerardo Alvarez Vazquez. I read the story, as I speak and read(bit rusty, but it works) Spanish.
Her having sex on a "Big Brother" like show while no nudity was shown is a far cry from doing hardcore pornography. Not that doing porn is a bad thing, she's an adult, which makes these smear attempts all so funny. Let's say she did actually do porn, who cares?
Time-Immemorial
You cant be serious Rob, quit trying to duck and weave for her. She drove the get away car while her brother gunned down a women at a funeral.
Shes trash.
You still cant get around her admitted to it. When you can, let me know.
Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
Her having sex on a "Big Brother" like show while no nudity was shown is a far cry from doing hardcore pornography. Not that doing porn is a bad thing, she's an adult, which makes these smear attempts all so funny. Let's say she did actually do porn, who cares?
Actually, she appeared in bed with a man in a soap opera, but was not nude. And the porn videos are actually of an adult film actress who happens to have the same name as her.
Time-Immemorial
She also happened to be in the car driving it while her boyfriend gunned down a innocent person at a funeral. Then threatened to kill the judge who indicted her scumbag boyfriend. And here you are making excuses for her. Is this the type of person you are Adam?
Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
She also happened to be in the car driving it while her boyfriend gunned down a innocent person at a funeral. Then threatened to kill the judge who indicted her scumbag boyfriend. And here you are making excuses for her. Is this the type of person you are Adam?
Who is making excuses? By all means, quote the excuses being made. I am merely pointing out that the person who had sex on camera is a different woman with the same name as her. It makes you wonder what else the people who are saying these things about her are wrong about. But since you care so much about integrity, what do you have to say about a presidential candidate encouraging people to watch pornography? Are you going to defend that, and if so, what kind of person does that make you?
BackFire
I've always dreamed of a presidential candidate telling me to watch porn, personally. It's a utopia dream.
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Who is making excuses? By all means, quote the excuses being made. I am merely pointing out that the person who had sex on camera is a different woman with the same name as her. It makes you wonder what else the people who are saying these things about her are wrong about. But since you care so much about integrity, what do you have to say about a presidential candidate encouraging people to watch pornography? Are you going to defend that, and if so, what kind of person does that make you?
What do you think about a presidential candidate that uses porn stars to attack Donald Trump, what does that make you?
And yes you have condoned her atrocious behavior by not condemning it and refusing to talk about it, read your own posts, you are trying to skirt the issue.
For the record, the only person who has called her Mrs. Piggy is yours truly, Hillary Clinton, not Trump/
Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What do you think about a presidential candidate that uses porn stars to attack Donald Trump, what does that make you?
And yes you have condoned her atrocious behavior by not condemning it and refusing to talk about it, read your own posts, you are trying to skirt the issue.
For the record, the only person who has called her Mrs. Piggy is yours truly, Hillary Clinton, not Trump/
I care about the message, not the messenger. Her argument rises or falls on its own merits, not on hers.
Time-Immemorial
Even CNN says her claims are completely unsubstantiated. There you go again believing lies that not even the liberal media calls facts.
For the record, the only person who has called her Mrs. Piggy is yours truly, Hillary Clinton.
Go ahead on your own, and prove he called her Mrs. Piggy.
Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You cant be serious Rob, quit trying to duck and weave for her. She drove the get away car while her brother gunned down a women at a funeral.
Shes trash.
You still cant get around her admitted to it. When you can, let me know.
You're shifting it again, the stories you posted were about her alleged porn career (she doesn't have one) and the veracity of the claim that the father of her baby is a drug lord. Both stories don't really support either claim.
Her involvement in a drive-by were only accusations, no charges were filed.
Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Actually, she appeared in bed with a man in a soap opera, but was not nude. And the porn videos are actually of an adult film actress who happens to have the same name as her.
From what I understand, she was on a reality TV show and she supposedly had sex with another guest on the show; while fully covered by the bed sheets. No nudity was shown, so it really was nothing worse than the "sex" we see in R rated films.
Not that any of that matters, Trump being Trump took the bait; Trump attacking her on and on only makes him look immature, unstable and foolish.
Time-Immemorial
And what does it make clinton look like who called her Mrs. Piggy?
Robtard
Clinton called her Mrs. Piggy now? Interesting, do you have a valid link/source?
BackFire
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Even CNN says her claims are completely unsubstantiated. There you go again believing lies that not even the liberal media calls facts.
For the record, the only person who has called her Mrs. Piggy is yours truly, Hillary Clinton.
Go ahead on your own, and prove he called her Mrs. Piggy.
You also called her Miss Piggy in the title of the thread.
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Clinton called her Mrs. Piggy now? Interesting, do you have a valid link/source?
Watch the debate.
Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by BackFire
You also called her Miss Piggy in the title of the thread.
Cute but irrelevant.
The Nuul
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Cute but irrelevant.
you should report backfire.

BackFire
Originally posted by The Nuul
you should report backfire.
I've been wanting an excuse to ban Backfire for a long time now.
Also as far as the topic goes, as far as I know Trump hasn't even denied calling her Ms Piggy, but has attempted to excuse it by basically saying "Well she got fat and did porn".
Time-Immemorial
He did deny it
BackFire
Did he? What did he say?
Time-Immemorial
He said "I never said that." Even CNN said the claim was completely unsubstantiated.
BackFire
When did he say that? I'm having trouble finding anything to back that up online, the only thing I can really find him saying is how she gained a bunch of weight and so on.
Time-Immemorial
He said "where did you find this."
So he didn't say "I didn't"
but
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BackFire
So he objected to her knowing this story and didn't deny that it happened. I mean, I wouldn't believe him anyways because Ms Piggy sounds like one of the various dumb little nicknames the dimwit has been giving people throughout this campaign.
Time-Immemorial
Why do you believe every lie you hear about Trump?
Flyattractor
She only ASSISTED in a Murder. That would explain why LIBERALS have no probs with this.
BackFire
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why do you believe every lie you hear about Trump?
He's not done anything to make me think this isn't true.
Besides I don't believe every lie about Trump. There's tons of rumors about him that I don't believe. Like him being a pedophile and what not, I don't believe that one.
Surtur
Okay so I just want to once again be clear: do we have Donald Trump on video or any recordings of him calling this woman "Miss Piggy" or anything like that? Or are we going solely on the word of this woman?
BackFire
It's her word vs his word. However he hasn't denied it, and he does tend to call people names, so it's not like it doesn't fit his personality or anything.
Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
It's her word vs his word. However he hasn't denied it, and he does tend to call people names, so it's not like it doesn't fit his personality or anything.
You say he didn't deny it, but then what about her creepy ass answer to the questions about her involvement in a murder. "It's all in the past" she says. Even though if Trump called her Miss Piggy that is also in the past, but we can't expect logic here.
Some random chick who may or may not have participated in a murder isn't the most reliable source to me.
Plus the insult, IMO, makes no sense. Miss Piggy wasn't even fat.
BackFire
What does her answer about her involvement in a murder have to do with him calling her a name? The two things have no connection. Whether he did or didn't has nothing to do with her being a getaway driver in a murder.
Him not denying it does matter. If he didn't say it, he'd like say that. The fact that he hasn't, and instead has gone on various twitter rants about it, and continued to bring it up in interviews shows that this accusation has rattled him a bit, I doubt it would rattle him so much if it wasn't true.
Personally I don't care, I'm surprised this story has gotten much traction at all, but then again, the reason it has is because Trump has handled it so badly.
Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
What does her answer about her involvement in a murder have to do with him calling her a name? The two things have no connection. Whether he did or didn't has nothing to do with her being a getaway driver in a murder.
I don't trust some chick who might have been involved in a murder.
Except no, it's not just due to how Trump handles it lol. It's because it's Trump. The media will focus on him more than the shit the Clintons do. Hilary lies, like..a lot. But hey Trump supposedly called someone fat! She is totally trust worthy, obviously, because reasons.
BackFire
No it's exactly because of the way Trump handles it. Most of the media focused on how he reacted to it rather than the story itself. Had he handled it like an adult and just either said "I never said that, I stood up for her and blah blah" or "I did say it, that was a long time ago and we all say things we regret sometimes, I should not have said it" then the story would have essentially been over after less than a day. Instead he kept it alive by excusing the idea of calling a woman fat by saying that she's fat and made a sex tape at 3 am on twitter.
I'm not saying the media is not biased against Trump, however in this case I don't think that's a reasonable complaint, Trump did this one to himself and you can't blame the media for covering him exploding on twitter.
As far as the Clintons go, they do lie, but so does Trump, just as much if not more. The difference is she doesn't keep creating controversy for herself every few days simply by speaking. Her lies are essentially "Well Benghazi and emails that were deleted and blah blah", these aren't new stories, people already know about these and have made up their mind about how they feel about one way or another, so you can't expect the media to keep bringing them up randomly when they are old news. The news media is more interested in viewers than getting any individual person in the white house, and covering Trump lashing out will get eyeballs on the screen, and so they will continue to do that. Don't like it? Tough. Trump should stop acting like a child all the time.
Surtur
But isn't it possible this happened because these utter pieces of shit are always so bias? That he eventually had some kind of breakdown?
I mean, CNN is trying to frame him and say he wants racial profiling. The media constantly attacks him and corrupt Hilary just smiles and waves and we all drink it up.
I'd be going crazy too over the shit people pull. Trump, even though he hasn't exactly been a hermit, isn't used to this much scrutiny and attention I imagine. He had some attention before for his shows, but not on this level and nobody cared much to scrutinize.
I'm not making excuses, but we have to look at why shit like this is escalating. CNN isn't the first media outlet to flat out lie about Trump. But we'll just shrug our shoulders, say he had a twitter meltdown, and then we'll put a corrupt manipulative liar into the White House.
Hilary will be our president, and everybody loses with that. I wish Trump had gone after something smaller, I wish he had started his political career not going for president right off the bat. He could have gotten used to the increase in attention, to the lies and manipulation by the media and liberals, etc.
We've lost, as a country. The one hope we had just isn't ready for the job, and the alternative is just so..ugh, it's bad. It really just destroys morale when we literally are in a lose lose situation. I don't even see the point in voting, it won't change anything. Hilldawg will be in the White House, and it will be 4 more years of the same BS, and people will clap and cheer because hey she's the first president with a vagina.
I've officially lost all hope.
BackFire
I think it's pretty absurd to blame the media for Trump having a meltdown whenever things don't go his way. I mean the guy is running for President, if he can't handle negative attention and scrutiny from the media then that doesn't speak highly of his ability to deal with world leaders and their propaganda arms that will slander the hell out of him, or world leaders just not respecting him. I mean hell man, Clinton has been able to manipulate him like a puppet over the last week, she randomly brought up the beauty queen expecting Trump to take the bait and he did exactly that and made it so much worse for himself it's incredible.
I have my problems with Clinton, I don't like her and she obviously is extremely shady and does coverups and all that. But at least she will be able to control herself when things don't go her way in the white house. At least she won't be easily manipulated by foreign entities. The way I see it Clinton is the safe choice. She will keep things, for better or worse, how they are currently, for the most part. Where as Trump is just a huge gamble. Yes, it's possible he could improve the economy, and it's possible he could make things better. But I think it's just as likely, if not moreso, that he could make things much worse.
And how is CNN framing him by saying he wants racial profiling. He has admitted as much. He has flat out said he's in favor of profiling. See this is the kind of thing that just makes the complaints about the media so bewildering to me. Trump says something, the media covers it, but then Trump says he meant something besides the words that came out of his mouth, the media continues talking about it, then his supporters ***** and moan that the media is biased. Like they're gonna engage in mental gymnastics to try and come to the best conclusion about what he said. It's not the media's job to sit there and morph what he says into something less stupid.
Surtur
He didn't say racial profiling, he said profiling. They added in the word racial.
I agree, Trump can't control himself. I'm not 100% blaming the media, but I think it's utterly absurd to think it hasn't played it's part.
But as I said, I've lost hope. Clinton will be president and this country will go down the shithole.
NemeBro
Originally posted by Surtur
He didn't say racial profiling, he said profiling. They added in the word racial.
I agree, Trump can't control himself. I'm not 100% blaming the media, but I think it's utterly absurd to think it hasn't played it's part.
But as I said, I've lost hope. Clinton will be president and this country will go down the shithole. You think she will put the country further in the shithole than an emotionally fragile retard with no experience in politics?
Also, he didn't use the "words" racial profiling, but I mean...
O'REILLY: Now, another thing you said that was very controversial is that you want to profile. You want to profile Arab or Muslim men. How would that work?
TRUMP: Well, we have no choice. Look, Israel does it. And Israel does it very successfully.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/20/donald-trump-doesnt-call-his-position-racial-profiling-it-is/
Now he does try to downplay it like the pussy ass beta male he is, but I mean, like, what do you think he means, lol?
Either he's saying "we should racially profile Arab and Muslim people" or he's a ****ing moron whose statements are too vague and clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
Surtur
But he never used the word racial, and they added it. That is called manipulation, that is called flat out lying. They did similar shit with the Milwaukee riots. It is irrelevant what he has said before, you quote the shit the man says, period. You do not add shit, and to see anyone defend it is just pathetic as hell. What he said to Bill O'Reilly is irrelevant. That's not even debatable, it's irrelevant. This is about misquoting him on purpose, it's not about the shit he has said to others.
Also yes,I do think she will turn this country into a shithole. It will just be a different kind of shithole. It won't be an obvious one, because this kunt likes to do her shady shit behind the scenes and not out in the open like Trump.
She won't have public melt downs on twitter, she'll just f*ck us over and we won't find out until long after she has left the office.
Surtur
They certainly could have commented that it sounds like racial profiling, but nope: you don't frickin add or subtract words to quotes. Quote the person as is and then perhaps give an opinion on it, but you don't just add shit because you feel like it. You don't add words to a quote because you feel it captures what the person is trying to say better.
This is why the media is so untrustworthy, especially CNN. Tell us EXACTLY what someone has said, and let us judge. Do not manipulate shit.
Just like if a dead thugs sister is telling people to go burn down the suburbs, you don't frickin only show the part where she is telling people to stop, you show the whole damn thing, this isn't rocket science. It's called not being deceitful. Can you explain to me why that is so hard for the media? To not be deceitful? Any thoughts on that..at all?
Surtur
You know what guys just don't mind me or the things I say. I'm just burnt out. This is one of the first elections I really paid a lot of attention to, really cared about it and I'm realizing it's all irrelevant, I am irrelevant, we all are.
We lack power, so we're irrelevant in the grand scheme of things when it comes to politics. There isn't even a point in arguing about it anymore.
This has shown me it's not worth it to care, because I can't change a damn thing. I'm just going to go back to what I did before and just not care at all about it.
NemeBro
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/19/politics/donald-trump-racial-profiling/
"Trump did not say on what attributes he would encourage police to profile possible suspects, but It's illegal for police to subject US persons to disparate treatment based on their race or other protected status."
They didn't add any words to his quote lol.
Surtur
In the specific quote they claimed he said the word "racial" he didn't say it.
This isn't about if Trump talked about racial profiling at other times. This is about CNN manipulating stuff.
I'm confused at what you think the link shows, because it doesn't have any quotes where Trump uses the word "racial".
In fact just to be sure I will do a word search for "racial" on the article.
*Does it*
Word racial was used three times in article, none of which were quotes from Trump.
It's fine if you want to say "well, he MEANT racial profiling" but CNN is a news network and they shouldn't be changing the shit people say in order to reflect their own opinions on what the guy means.
jaden101
Originally posted by Surtur
You know what guys just don't mind me or the things I say. I'm just burnt out. This is one of the first elections I really paid a lot of attention to, really cared about it and I'm realizing it's all irrelevant, I am irrelevant, we all are.
We lack power, so we're irrelevant in the grand scheme of things when it comes to politics. There isn't even a point in arguing about it anymore.
This has shown me it's not worth it to care, because I can't change a damn thing. I'm just going to go back to what I did before and just not care at all about it.
Maybe instead of caring about whether someone did or didn't call someone Miss Piggy or whether someone does or doesn't have pneumonia and instead cared about what their policies are and how they're going to be implemented and what they want them to achieve and most importantly, where compromise can be reached between different visions and where it can't and a singular vision would be more effective you might actually feel that the election has some relevancy.
With every passing election the US slips further and further into partisan entrenchment where policies are a side show and the main attraction is how much vitriol each side can spew at the other.
Now I'm not saying that these issues are totally irrelevant. Anything that stands as testament, good or bad, to a candidate's statesmanship, trustworthiness and effectiveness is obviously worth bringing up. But it's all you people seem to focus on. Policy ideas are reduced to moronic soundbites and there's no pressure put on the candidates to flesh them out and explain them so when one does get into power they are totally useless.
Surtur
The problem is that doesn't sell. Just talking about policies is boring to most people. They want people to keep paying attention, keep tuning in.
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