Ajunta Pall vs. Karness Muur

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BazookaMaster
Who believes Ajunta remained superior?

Ursumeles
I do. Pall wins.

Trocity
Muur appears more impressive but Pall was supposed to be the leader and the best. Kind of tough to say if Muur surpassed him at some point after they fled to Korriban.

UCanShootMyNova
Muur by feats. Not sure looking at in context though. Pall lost control of Muur and the other Sith but then again none of them challenged him for the mantle of Dark Lord. *Shrug*

SunRazer
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
but then again none of them challenged him for the mantle of Dark Lord.

Based on what?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by SunRazer
Based on what? Based on it saying that none of them challenged him for the mantle of Dark Lord.

UCanShootMyNova
By what I've been told. But apparently most of that's inaccurate anyways.

SunRazer
Where is that ever said? Ajunta Pall was a victim of the Sith power struggles. It would seem as if each of them wanted supremacy for themselves, and openly declared war on the others for it.

UCanShootMyNova
Pall wasn't defeated by the others though and none of them took the mantle of Dark Lord and stabilized he Empire right?

SunRazer
Pretty sure Ajunta says or implies that they all died from the infighting in KotOR.

UCanShootMyNova
So essentially none of them were strong enough to rise above the rest and gain control.

SunRazer
Not when they were all fighting each other, no. It's possible that Ajunta was only overthrown through an alliance of some sort, but that's never suggested.

UCanShootMyNova
Ajunta wasn't overthrown was he? Like, no one killed him right?

SunRazer
Pretty sure he implies that he was a victim of the Sith fallout in KotOR, as I already said.

UCanShootMyNova
You said that he says they all died from it.

NewGuy01
Ajunta was presumably crushed by rubble, if you take his dialogue literally.

Karness wins, btw.

SunRazer
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
You said that he says they all died from it.

Yes. None of the other Exiles are documented as succeeding him as the Dark Lord. Presumably, even if they outlived him, they were still in the process of war, which inevitably destroyed them all.

UCanShootMyNova
So Pall died to what?

SunRazer
Infighting, apparently. There's no specifications.

UCanShootMyNova
K.

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