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Scenario one:
●Mace and Dooku as of TPM; Anakin as of TCW S6

Scenario two:
●Everybody as of RotS

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Round 1:
●Unarmed

Round 2:
●Sabers

Round 3:
●The Force

Round 4:
●All-out

Round 5:
●Dooku has a permanent Vjun amp (the one he got against Yoda).
●Mace has a permanent Vaapad amp (the one he got against Sidious).
●Anakin has a permanent Force rage amp (the one he got against Dooku).
●Morals off, bloodlust on for everyone

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Applies to all rounds:
●Win by death/KO.
●Force augmentation is allowed in each round.
●Location: The Krayt Dragon cave from KotOR.
●No prep.
●Everyone knows each other to the extent they know each other in the lore.
●Morals on, bloodlust off (save round 5), but everyone is willing to kill.
●Everyone is fully healed after each round.
●Commentors must provide extensive reasoning when posting, not just "Round 1: Mace," or "Round 3: Anakin."
●Legends sources take priority; Canon applies only if it doesn't conflict with Legends.

I'll just cover Scenario two, as TPM Windu/Dooku are too speculative.

1. Anakin. He is just by far the fastest and strongest here.

2. Also Anakin, if they don't gang up on him. He already has beaten Dooku, and Windu is "only" Dooku's equal.

3. Again, Anakin. He could dodge|reflect Tyranus lightning, and is the most powerful here.

4. Anakin. See above, lel.

5. Dooku loses. Honestly, Anakin should be able to trash Dooku and Windu, before latter sinks to deep into Vaapad. If not, Anakin is still more powerful.

Anakin has shown Tutaminis? When?

Nice thread.

Originally posted by Azronger
Round 1:
●Unarmed


Scenario 1: Anakin. Best physicals, most raw power.
Scenario 2: Probably Anakin, but Mace Windu has some really good unarmed feats, and his vaapad/shatterpoint work well here.



1. Anakin. He's already giving TCW Dooku a hard time, so TPM Dooku/TPM Mace are likely below him. Dooku is probably > Mace as of TPM, because he was mentioned to have been Yoda's greatest student, I'm pretty sure he was stated to beat Windu in sparring matches somewhere, and because the two are suggested to be equals as of Dark Rendevous, by which Windu would probably have had more room to grow due to his younger age.
2. Anakin, he was already beating Dooku before his Zonakin moment, with his moments of weakness coming from plot-specific points of emotional instability. Mace edges out Dooku via vaapad and shatterpoint.



This one's interesting. I'd say Dooku > Mace in scenario 1 for similar reasons to round 2, while Mace takes over in scenario 2 thanks to vaapad and shatterpoint. I'm honestly not sure where Anakin lies. He doesn't have the same feats in telekinesis that the other two do; or rather, he doesn't reliably demonstrate them, but instead seems more bound to his emotional state. I'd say that Anakin isn't on their level yet in terms of force mastery.



Anakin takes both. His potential disadvantage in telekinesis isn't enough to prevent a close quarters combat. Scenario 1 is followed by Dooku, 2 is followed by Windu.



Dooku loses; he still had to flee from Yoda, whereas Windu was able to defeat Palpatine.

Between Windu and Anakin, Anakin probably has a lot more power backing his attacks; his raw power already rivals Yoda's, and now is amped to the nth degree. We can compare Sidious's domination of pre-amp Windu to Anakin's domination of Dooku, and it seems from the language that Anakin's was more thorough. So I'd give Zonakin the edge, but, it's possible that Windu's vaapad could feed off of his anger, and that his shatterpoint could exploit a loophole. So I'm unsure.

Assuming RotS...

1. Undecided between Anakin and Mace
2. Anakin
3. Dooku (sans bloodlusted rounds, which would favor Anakin)
4. Anakin

1. Mace Windu
2. Mace Windu
3. Dooku via mastery; Windu is more powerful, but has less tools to offer; Anakin is more powerful than either, but has incredibly small amount of tools to offer.
4. Undecided.
5. Mace.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Assuming RotS...

1. Undecided between Anakin and Mace
2. Anakin
3. Dooku (sans bloodlusted rounds, which would favor Anakin)
4. Anakin

Scenario 2 only b/c TPM Mace and Dooku are too speculative

1. Hand-to-Hand. Anakin simply because of age advantage giving him the edge over whatever small force augmentation/endurance power Mace might possess. His cybernetic hand is an underrated plus here as well. Dooku is out of the running for this round. A younger Mace might be able to take this though.

2. Sabers. With morals on, Anakin and Mace are going to hammer on Dooku first while exchanging their own blows. This then comes down to Anakin vs Mace, which in pure sabers could go either way IMO. I believe it comes down to who will tire first as both utilize extremely demanding light-saber forms. Mace might have greater skill over Anakin, but not endurance. If Mace doesn't find an opening within the first few moments of the fight, he goes down due to fatigue.

3. Force. This one is pretty clear cut. Anakin is out of the running here due to lack of force skill. We never see him demonstrate a skill capable of contending with Dooku or Mace outside of basic telekinesis techniques. Mace and Dooku is closer, but Tyranus can draw from both his knowledge of the dark and light side whereas Windu only has the light. Both are close in terms of force potential, but Dooku is more skilled.

4. All-Out.
With morals on, Windu and Anakin hammer Dooku. There is a chance that Tyranus might be able to blast Anakin temporarily into submission, but since Mace is already a challenge by himself, it's only a matter of time until Dooku tires and goes down. As for Mace vs Anakin, ditto what I said for the sabers round except for the fact that Windu has Anakin outclassed here with the force. Again, it's close, but I'm giving Windu the slightest advantage due to superior force skill. Could still go either way.

Round 5: All-out with amps. This is the toughest round to come up with verdict for. With morals off, Anakin is probably going to be the biggest aggressor, followed by Mace, and Dooku with a defensive approach. Zonakin and Sidious amp Mace are too close for me to really choose. Either way, if Dooku plays defensive, he can wait for the other two to tire and become sloppy with their technique in which case Makashi takes advantage of a wild strike and someone loses a limb.

In summary:
H2H: Anakin decisively
Sabers: Either way between Mace & Anakin with slight leanings towards the latter
Force: Dooku decisively
All-Out: Either way between Mace & Anakin with slight leanings towards Mace
All-Out, morals off, amped: Either way between Mace & Anakin and Dooku kills the victor.

wtf lmfao

Mace wins the H2H rounds.

Mace Windu h2h, I haven't seen any Jedi smash droids with their bare hands like Mace did in Clone Wars 1st cartoon

Sabers Dooku would take that, yes Anakin beat him but with Mace in the mix Anakin can't zone in and take the fight so easily. Dooku is the best pure swordsman in this fight as well.

All out Anakin takes it, especially if he's in Zoanakin mode.

Dooku stops going easy on Anakin and pwns him, then Mace and Dooku start their own Empire

Anakin should just about sweep this, besides sabers maybe.

Uh, why is there a big difference between Season 6 Anakin and ROTS Anakin?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Uh, why is there a big difference between Season 6 Anakin and ROTS Anakin?

The former was dominated by Dooku, the latter was dominating Dooku.

Originally posted by Azronger
Anakin has shown Tutaminis? When?
IIRC, he has shown barrier.

Dominating is the term for someone who gets backhealed into a wall whilst he was dueling someone else. Tyranus got tired, Skywalker got angry, he didn't dominate shit.

Funny people are only using the RotS novelization as if it's the only source portraying the fight

Originally posted by Azronger
●Legends sources take priority; Canon applies only if it doesn't conflict with Legends.
That's the reason.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nice thread.

Thanks, I appreciate the detailed answers.

So people really think anakin could beat sidious and yoda then? Ok

Anakin Skywalker vs Mace Windu vs Count Dooku - a threeway fvck

Unarmed: Windu should be a clear winner here. Not because he destroyed an army of droids; Anakin and Dooku as of CW problably should be able to do the same, and Dooku could almost fly... nope. Windu, lucky man, wasn't showing as often in TCW as Anakin and Dooku. And, which might be funny, Anakin's feats are inferior to even Dooku's - he lost his h2h to Obi-Wan (when he pretended to be that bounty hunter), and he wasn't Obi-Wan's superior in their duel in ROTS. Dooku did a pretty well in h2h against Obi-Wan in TCW, stunned Anakin by kicking him in ROTS and - according to ROTS novel/comic - defeated Obi-Wan by kicking him.