Prime Vader (with Muur Talisman amp) vs ROTJ Sidious

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Dark-Kenshin
This is a Vader who readily embraced the Muur Talisman as opposed to hesitating. Who wins?

Ursumeles
Sidious

Ziggystardust
Still Sidious.

Dark-Kenshin
Pre-prime Vader sure seemed pretty confident he could win.

Ziggystardust
Even if his raw power overtakes Sidious in this state, I'd still give it to Sheev. The vastly better speed and lighting make it swift victory.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Pre-prime Vader sure seemed pretty confident he could win.
1. Could
2. His own opinion
3. RotJ Sidious>19BBY Sidious

MythLord
Not to mention, Vader has yet to actually see Sheev's true power by 19 BBY.

Deronn_solo
He knew he beat Yoda, so he wasn't completely in the dark as far as Sheev's power go.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
He knew he beat Yoda, so he wasn't completely in the dark as far as Sheev's power go.
But did he known Yoda's true power?

Deronn_solo
Pretty sure he had a good idea, yeah. Unless there is reason to believe Yoda was suppressing it, I don't see why I should buy into that line of reasoning.

UCanShootMyNova
Vader without trouble.

SunRazer
The Emperor wins.

BazookaMaster
Sidious

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