Ben Kenobi vs. Shaak Ti
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Ben as of A New Hope; Ti as of The Force Unleashed.
Round 1: Lightsabers
Round 2: Force
Round 3: All out
Fight 1: Setting is Lothal
Fight 2: Setting is the Ancient Abyss on Felucia
MythLord
Ti should take it, but it'd be a good fight.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by MythLord
Ti should take it, but it'd be a good fight. I can't see Shaak Ti being a huge threat to Vader like Ben was.
In the comic, Ben does really good.
Plus, adding on all the other missions in TFU, coupled with the fact that TFU takes place 2 years before ANH.
I can't see Shaak winning this.
chingchangwalla
Shaak is a threat to Vader. And I'm a massive Ti hater.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Shaak is a threat to Vader. And I'm a massive Ti hater. But she isn't, considering all the circumstances.
Only after everything he'd been through, was Galen actually able to face Vader.
IIRC, Vader stomped Galen after his fight with Shaak.
Also, again, TFU takes place at least 2 yeas before ANH.
TFU II takes place 6 months before ANH.
Jmanghan
Unless you think TFU Vader = ANH Vader.
In which case... Just... what?
chingchangwalla
All Vaders are shit
Ziggystardust
Ben in sabers, Shaak ti in force.
cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Jmanghan
IIRC, Vader stomped Galen after his fight with Shaak.
Also, again, TFU takes place at least 2 yeas before ANH.
Shaak died in 3 BBY, and Vader didn't stomp Galen, he cheapshotted him.
Darth Thor
Vader >> Felucia Galen.
Ben wins.
UCanShootMyNova
Vader >> Old Ben. So you're logic confuses me.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Vader >> Old Ben. So you're logic confuses me.
The gap between Old Ben and ANH Vader is not that big :/
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Jmanghan
The gap between Old Ben and ANH Vader is not that big :/
The fight confirms Vader couldn't ragdoll Ben and that he was a challenge but I don't know why you're assuming the gap was small because of that.
Ziggystardust
As per the commentary in Death Star from the perspective of Darth Vader, Vader thinks he has the upper hand until Obi Wan unleashes a furious assault that Vader admits could kill him, and the Fightsaber article states Vader can not break Obi Wan's guard until the latter voluntarily yields.
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
As per the commentary in Death Star from the perspective of Darth Vader, Vader think he has the upper hand until Obi Wan unleashes a furious assault that Vader admits could kill him, and the lightsaber article states Vader can not break Obi Wan's guard units the latter voluntarily yields.
I acknowledged that first quote by admitting that Obi Wan is a challenge.
Can you provide the quote for the second? Because as far I'm aware it says Vader breaches Obi Wan's defenses once he voluntarily yields not that HE COULD NOT break Obi Wan's defenses until he voluntarily yielded. Might be wrong on that though.
Ziggystardust
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I acknowledged that first quote by admitting that Obi Wan is a challenge.
Can you provide the quote for the second? Because as far I'm aware it says Vader breaches Obi Wan's defenses once he voluntarily yields not that HE COULD NOT break Obi Wan's defenses until he voluntarily yielded. Might be wrong on that though.
"The tall and powerful Sith Lord cannot break Obi-Wan's defenses until Kenobi voluntarily yields."
- Source: Fightsaber
Trocity
Such a stark difference from the ANH novel, where Vader just straight up kills Kenobi.
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
"The tall and powerful Sith Lord cannot break Obi-Wan's defenses until Kenobi voluntarily yields."
- Source: Fightsaber
*Shrug* Fair enough.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The fight confirms Vader couldn't ragdoll Ben and that he was a challenge but I don't know why you're assuming the gap was small because of that. I don't believe Shaak would give TFU Vader trouble, let-alone ANH Vader, who is superior.
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