Darth Maul and Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Plagueis

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Jmanghan
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All-Out

JKBart
They should win sabers, and they get stomped in the Force. Not sure on all out. Area? Distance?

The Ellimist
Plagueis sweeps.

Ursumeles

chingchangwalla
If Hego is caught off guard with a small starting distance, he dies.
Otherwise, the duo gets ragdolled or blitzed

The Ellimist
This duo loses to Dooku, let alone Plagueis.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
This duo loses to Dooku, let alone Plagueis. This duo is not losing to Dooku.

AOTC Kenobi gave him trouble.

chingchangwalla
Christ.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Christ. You wanna do this again little buddy?

Or do you need help?

chingchangwalla
What the fck are you talking about?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
What the fck are you talking about? You know exactly what I'm talking about. smile

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Jmanghan
This duo is not losing to Dooku.

AOTC Kenobi gave him trouble.
It could.

Wat. Dooku ragdolled RotS Kenobi, lmfao.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Ursumeles
It could.

Wat. Dooku ragdolled RotS Kenobi, lmfao. Dooku admitted that it was a cheapshot, and it says that he could've broken out of it.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Jmanghan
This duo is not losing to Dooku.

AOTC Kenobi gave him trouble.

Dooku does what he initially did to Anakin and Obi Wan, and then beats Maul.

Dooku was playing with Obi Wan, and the novelization makes a note that he went faster and stronger against Yoda than he had against the pair.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Dooku does what he initially did to Anakin and Obi Wan, and then beats Maul.

Dooku was playing with Obi Wan, and the novelization makes a note that he went faster and stronger against Yoda than he had against the pair. It also says that Dooku "fought furiously" to keep Kenobi's blade at bay.

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by Jmanghan
You know exactly what I'm talking about. smile
You act like we've been here before?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
You act like we've been here before? ...We have erm

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by Jmanghan
...We have erm
confused

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Jmanghan
It also says that Dooku "fought furiously" to keep Kenobi's blade at bay.

Yeah but he still incapacitated him in a single move...

In either case, he took on Obi Wan with a superior combatant that also has substantially better chemistry with Kenobi, and still managed to get it down to a one vs. one with Anakin. I don't see why he couldn't do this now that you've replaced Anakin with a weaker fighter.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yeah but he still incapacitated him in a single move...

In either case, he took on Obi Wan with a superior combatant that also has substantially better chemistry with Kenobi, and still managed to get it down to a one vs. one with Anakin. I don't see why he couldn't do this now that you've replaced Anakin with a weaker fighter. In all honesty, Anakin and Obi-Wan, for as long as they've known each other, have horrible chemistry.

They genuinely don't do as well in teams as they do on their own.

GM Yoda
1. Team
2. Plagueis
3. Could go either way.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Jmanghan
In all honesty, Anakin and Obi-Wan, for as long as they've known each other, have horrible chemistry.

They genuinely don't do as well in teams as they do on their own.

Apparently they do, seeing as how Dooku was getting demolished by them when they starting getting serious. But that won't happen here, because a) Maul is weaker than even a restricted Anakin, b) Obi Wan and Maul would have actively inhibiting chemistry, and c) once Dooku dispatches of Obi Wan like before, he certainly isn't losing to Maul.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Apparently they do, seeing as how Dooku was getting demolished by them when they starting getting serious. But that won't happen here, because a) Maul is weaker than even a restricted Anakin, b) Obi Wan and Maul would have actively inhibiting chemistry, and c) once Dooku dispatches of Obi Wan like before, he certainly isn't losing to Maul. IMO, Maul = ROTS Kenobi.

And Maul > TCW Kenobi.

But thats if Dooku has a chance to ragdoll either of them in the same fashion.

Theres a chance Kenobi could have broken out, and the novel notes that.

UCanShootMyNova
Plagueis in all.

Emperordmb
Plagueis stomps in all rounds, this thread is ****ing stupid.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Plagueis stomps in all rounds, this thread is ****ing stupid. Nah.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Jmanghan
IMO, Maul = ROTS Kenobi.


In the Force, probably. But with a blade it isn't clear that he's as good as TCW Obi Wan, and RotS Obi Wan is significantly improved.



Unless if there's evidence that what we see happen was a fluke, I'm going for Dooku winning with telekinesis a majority of the time.

carthage
Plagueis wins

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
In the Force, probably. But with a blade it isn't clear that he's as good as TCW Obi Wan, and RotS Obi Wan is significantly improved.



Unless if there's evidence that what we see happen was a fluke, I'm going for Dooku winning with telekinesis a majority of the time.

Maul has beaten Kenobi in every scenario they've fought in.

Maul beat him when he fought with Ventress.

Beat him solidly in TPM, and won using the Force when it was him and Opress vs him.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
In the Force, probably. But with a blade it isn't clear that he's as good as TCW Obi Wan, and RotS Obi Wan is significantly improved.



Unless if there's evidence that what we see happen was a fluke, I'm going for Dooku winning with telekinesis a majority of the time. Dooku admits it was a cheapshot, and it says Kenobi could have broken out of it.

Yeah, it was a fluke.

Trocity
Where does Dooku admit him telekinetically dominating Kenobi is a cheap-shot?

And Plagueis stomps, yeah.

Azronger
Plagueis
Plagueis one-shots
Plagueis one-shots

The Ellimist
I'd like to see the source too.

Dooku pushes him twice, mind you.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Trocity
Where does Dooku admit him telekinetically dominating Kenobi is a cheap-shot?

And Plagueis stomps, yeah. Edit: Misread.

Kurk
Plagueis could speed-blitz both them.

RHaggis
Plagueis wrecks.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I'd like to see the source too.

Dooku pushes him twice, mind you.

Ok, do you think Kenobi is equal with a blade then?

SunRazer
Since when has Dooku ever admitted that Obi-Wan could break out?

And Plagueis laughs this duo off.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Ok, do you think Kenobi is equal with a blade then?

I think he's close, like TPM Qui-Gon vs. Maul.

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