Muslim man ejected from airplane for speaking a different language

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Impediment
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-passenger-southwest-airlines-khairuldeen-makhzoom-arabic-phone-uncle-baghdad-cair-statement-a7347311.html

Poor guy must feel humiliated.

Time-Immemorial
You feel bad for this guy honestly?

Sins of the father and all.

Surtur
I think it does suck because he didn't do anything to warrant being removed. Though this part:

"I lived under Saddam Hussein. I know what discrimination feels like," he added."

Kind of made me chuckle.

Time-Immemorial
What is that common sense phrase, oh yea I remember,

"Better safe then sorry."

How quickly we forget what happened on 9/11

Bashar Teg
just curious: when exactly did casual racism and bigotry become okay on this forum?

Robtard
Trump supporter probably called the cops

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
just curious: when exactly did casual racism and bigotry become okay on this forum?

Surprisingly, the exact same time you returned to the GDF.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump supporter probably called the cops

It's a possibility. Maybe they can gather some young muslim children together and record them telling Trump to f*ck off a bunch of times. I mean if they exploit little mexican children to go after him..then exploiting little muslim children just seems like the next logical step.

Time-Immemorial
Like here?

http://time.com/4472818/hillary-clinton-kids-campaign-ads-donald-trump

Impediment
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You feel bad for this guy honestly?

What crime did he commit?

This was outright racism.

Time-Immemorial
Would it have been racist to kick off the 9/11 Hijackers?

Tzeentch
Yes.

Robtard
Rm3d43HLyTI
https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI

Surtur
Lois does a great Hilary impression in that clip.

Impediment
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Would it have been racist to kick off the 9/11 Hijackers?

This man was talking on the phone and using his native language.

How absolutely horrifying.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Robtard
Rm3d43HLyTI
https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI

Robbie gets all his political advice from Family Guy.


....that explains Oh So MUCH!!!!!!!


And this guy probably got busted by some panicky rich Liberal in First Class.

Surtur
Originally posted by Impediment
This man was talking on the phone and using his native language.

How absolutely horrifying.

Damn dude the guy was just having a convo on his phone, why would you call that horrifying?

jaden101
Originally posted by Surtur
I think it does suck because he didn't do anything to warrant being removed. Though this part:

"I lived under Saddam Hussein. I know what discrimination feels like," he added."

Kind of made me chuckle.

I know. Genocide always makes he wet myself with laughter too.

Surtur
Originally posted by jaden101
I know. Genocide always makes he wet myself with laughter too.

Here I thought I was the only one. We can be bff's now.

But I was also laughing because he was bringing up the oppression of Saddam Hussein in regards to getting kicked off a flight.

Get checked though bro, you wetting yourself due to laughter might be a sign of bladder issues or even prostate issues. I need my bff healthy and strong.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
just curious: when exactly did casual racism and bigotry become okay on this forum?

When Time Immemorial's mother decided she was pro-life.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Surtur
I think it does suck because he didn't do anything to warrant being removed. Though this part:

"I lived under Saddam Hussein. I know what discrimination feels like," he added."

Kind of made me chuckle.

Lol, let's not pretend like you haven't compared SJW's to Nazis and fascists before.

Surtur
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Lol, let's not pretend like you haven't compared SJW's to Nazis and fascists before.

Okay let's not pretend: quote me doing it. I'm struggling to remember anyone who I legitimately compared to a nazi.

Key word is legitimately. This guy wasn't f*cking around lol, he was dead serious. I don't even recall doing so jokingly, but it's possible. But to seriously say "this person is like a nazi" ?

-Pr-
Originally posted by Impediment
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslim-passenger-southwest-airlines-khairuldeen-makhzoom-arabic-phone-uncle-baghdad-cair-statement-a7347311.html

Poor guy must feel humiliated.

Yay... What a bunch of *****.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay let's not pretend: quote me doing it. I'm struggling to remember anyone who I legitimately compared to a nazi.

Key word is legitimately. This guy wasn't f*cking around lol, he was dead serious. I don't even recall doing so jokingly, but it's possible. But to seriously say "this person is like a nazi" ?

Your SJW petition had plenty of comparisons to supremacists, totalitarian states, etc., both in the statement and many of the comments.

And we're not Iraq, but that's because the Right doesn't have the power to turn us into one.

Surtur
Okay so based on your last comment you officially have lost the right to question or insult the intelligence of anyone.

Also again: I wasn't being serious when comparing them to totalitarian states. I said serious times when I was legit like "no, these people are just like nazi's".

This guy said this comment seemingly being..100% serious.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by -Pr-
Yay... What a bunch of *****.

Get over it

bluewaterrider
Actually, from what I read about this in other articles, the woman that reported him was a Muslim and native Arabic speaker who herself was concerned about the content of the man's discussion.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, from what I read about this in other articles, the woman that reported him was a Muslim and native Arabic speaker who herself was concerned about the content of the man's discussion.

The truth always comes out. Watch all the people on the other side vanish now.

Surtur
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Your SJW petition had plenty of comparisons to supremacists, totalitarian states, etc., both in the statement and many of the comments.

And we're not Iraq, but that's because the Right doesn't have the power to turn us into one.

Actually you know what, if you mean my topic about social justice courses..I could not find any examples of me comparing them to nazi's or totalitarian states.

Not to say it never happened, but I couldn't even find me jokingly calling them nazi's or anything in that thread.

Surtur
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, from what I read about this in other articles, the woman that reported him was a Muslim and native Arabic speaker who herself was concerned about the content of the man's discussion.

Lol oh shit, this can't be true.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Get over it

lol.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Actually, from what I read about this in other articles, the woman that reported him was a Muslim and native Arabic speaker who herself was concerned about the content of the man's discussion.

Got any links? I'd be interested in reading them.

Time-Immemorial
All the esjw just vanished and popped smoke. Pr you can't change you're stance now since you rushed to judgement.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
All the esjw just vanished and popped smoke. Pr you can't change you're stance now since you rushed to judgement.

lol, my stance was that, based on the article being accurate, they'd be a bunch of ***** to kick him off.

If the article is inaccurate, then yes I can.

Time-Immemorial
No you can't doesn't work that way. You and all the other liberals already rushed to judgment. You can't change your stance on rushing to judgement.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No you can't doesn't work that way. You and all the other liberals already rushed to judgment. You can't change your stance on rushing to judgement.

Because you get to decide what I can and can't do. Okay. And my initial post depends on the article being accurate. If it isn't, then obviously things change.

lol @ calling me a liberal though.

Surtur
But I am hesitant about the whole "the woman who reported it was a Muslim." Since if she could understand him..and he apparently just said "god be with you" then wouldn't she have known he wasn't discussing anything bad?

So if it is true about her being a Muslim it would make me question whether or not all he really said was "god is good" and that he said nothing that could be interpreted as bad or as him being some kind of safety issue.

Astner
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You feel bad for this guy honestly?

Sins of the father and all.
You need counseling.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by -Pr-
Because you get to decide what I can and can't do. Okay. And my initial post depends on the article being accurate. If it isn't, then obviously things change.

lol @ calling me a liberal though.

Rushing to judgement, you cant change that, you can change your opinion after, but you can't change you and everyone else rushed to judgement.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Astner
You need counseling.

Not from you

-Pr-
Originally posted by Surtur
But I am hesitant about the whole "the woman who reported it was a Muslim." Since if she could understand him..and he apparently just said "god be with you" then wouldn't she have known he wasn't discussing anything bad?

So if it is true about her being a Muslim it would make me question whether or not all he really said was "god is good" and that he said nothing that could be interpreted as bad or as him being some kind of safety issue.

She's either the kind of person that would report someone for being brown (which we know happens), or she reported him because he said something he really shouldn't have (which in this case would be a good thing).

I'm genuinely curious now as to which one is true.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Rushing to judgement, you cant change that, you can change your opinion after, but you can't change you and everyone else rushed to judgement.

Okay...

bluewaterrider
Here, Pr; 2 links relevant to your request of me:


http://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2016/04/19/mitch-schnurman-why-southwest-airlines-didn-t-go-too-far-with-arabic-speaking-passenger


https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/passenger-who-heard-remarks-by-muslim-who-was-removed-from-plane-speaks-arabic-says-his-comments-were-threatening

Time-Immemorial
How can you or anyone else who did change rushing to judgmenet when you only have one chance.

Astner
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Not from you
No. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Astner
No. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist.

Its a good thing, clearly you are a sociopath.

Surtur
Originally posted by Astner
No. I'm not a licensed psychiatrist.

Tell me you at least took a semester of psychology at a community college at least?!?!?!

No I'm kidding with you, I know you're a physicist.

Time-Immemorial
Now that this story fell to shit, what else?

Another arabic speaking person turned him inlaughing out loud

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2016/04/19/mitch-schnurman-why-southwest-airlines-didn-t-go-too-far-with-arabic-speaking-passenger

Is that arab a racist biggot now? They would be according to social justice warriors.

-Pr-
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Here, Pr; 2 links relevant to your request of me:


http://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2016/04/19/mitch-schnurman-why-southwest-airlines-didn-t-go-too-far-with-arabic-speaking-passenger


https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/passenger-who-heard-remarks-by-muslim-who-was-removed-from-plane-speaks-arabic-says-his-comments-were-threatening

That first one does NOT paint the airline in a good light, imo.

The second one still doesn't do a great job, imo.

They refunded his ticket, so it does suggest that in the end they found that he wasn't guilty of anything, and it still sounds like they were really jumping the gun by pulling him off.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How can you or anyone else who did change rushing to judgmenet when you only have one chance.

What are you even talking about?

Robtard
Weird, from the other stories I've read, she reported him because he sounded Muslim-y and unsafe.

Which is overall irrelevant to (the issue) Southwest acting like bigoted assclowns. They can't help what their passengers do, but they can choose not to act foolish.

Time-Immemorial
Or he was saying suspicious things? Remember though, common sense these days is few and far between among liberals.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Weird, from the other stories I've read, she reported him because he sounded Muslim-y and unsafe.

Does it shock you the media would try to frame this as racist?

Also if he was legitimately saying suspicious and threatening things..what should have been done?

Time-Immemorial
Story went bust. Now we are seeing everyone crawling and scrambling to salvage the story cause they rushed to judgement.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Does it shock you the media would try to frame this as racist?

Also if he was legitimately saying suspicious and threatening things..what should have been done?

It's bigoted, as fact.

He's apparently not a terrorist, so what's your point? As noted, the airline can't help what a passenger reports and they have an obligation to investigate. Which should have lead them to see that this guy didn't have weapons and was safe to fly.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
It's bigoted, as fact.

He's apparently not a terrorist, so what's your point? As noted, the airline can't help what a passenger reports and they have an obligation to investigate. Which should have lead them to see that this guy didn't have weapons and was safe to fly.

Would it have been biggoted to kick off the 9/11 Hijackers?

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Would it have been biggoted to kick off the 9/11 Hijackers?

Considering they were armed with weapons and if someone reported them and the authorities checked them out like they did this guy, no, it would have been founded.

9/11 doesn't give carte blanche for bigotry against Muslims.

Impediment
I'm so tired of people citing 9/11 as a reason to be anti-Muslim.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Impediment
I'm so tired of people citing 9/11 as a reason to be anti-Muslim.

You know this is wrong. If someone detects a threat on a plane, you are legally obligated to report it, end of story. If someone even says the word "bomb" or "explosion" on a plane, it gets you thrown off and investigated.

This story is just another bullshit story geared to gin up racism and stupid ideas.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
It's bigoted, as fact.

Okay so whatever you want to call it, does it truly shock you the media would try to frame something as such..even if it wasn't?



They have an obligation to investigate, but in what way would you have done that? The only way to know he had no weapons would be to cavity search him. Or at least a pat down. Then if they found no weapons, they let him back on the flight.

Maybe I'm just cynical, but I feel like if they had pulled this guy aside and strip searched him for weapons and then sent him back on his merry way..I feel like this would still be a story, just not as big of a story. I feel like people would still have issues that he was pulled aside at all.

Time-Immemorial
The Arab speaking person who reported this guy is the one to blame if he even needs to be, if he heard something suspicious, it was his obligation to, not the airline or the pilot, who is taking the word of the person who heard what was said.

Thats why I said "Better safe then sorry."

But I guess this guys suspicious phone and safe space due to "racism, or biggotry" call was more important then then all the people on that plane.

Robtard
Originally posted by Impediment
I'm so tired of people citing 9/11 as a reason to be anti-Muslim.

Aye. thumb up

Especially telling from a war vet who was wounded in action.

Surtur
Here is a question for everyone: what if the man was overheard talking about joining ISIS, but he was also found to have zero weapons on him?

In such a situation, what should happen? I'm not saying the guy was talking about joining it, btw. Just curious how some think the situation should be handled.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Aye. thumb up

Especially telling from a war vet who was wounded in action.

What does being a war vet and wounded in action have anything to do with this? laughing out loud

Its comparing apples to oranges.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Surtur
Here is a question for everyone: what if the man was overheard talking about joining ISIS, but he was also found to have zero weapons on him?

In such a situation, what should happen? I'm not saying the guy was talking about joining it, btw. Just curious how some think the situation should be handled.

http://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac90-103.pdf

Thread destroyed.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay so whatever you want to call it, does it truly shock you the media would try to frame something as such..even if it wasn't?



They have an obligation to investigate, but in what way would you have done that? The only way to know he had no weapons would be to cavity search him. Or at least a pat down. Then if they found no weapons, they let him back on the flight.

Maybe I'm just cynical, but I feel like if they had pulled this guy aside and strip searched him for weapons and then sent him back on his merry way..I feel like this would still be a story, just not as big of a story. I feel like people would still have issues that he was pulled aside at all.

How is that relevant when it in fact is bigoted (kicking an innocent person off a plane because he spoke in Arabic) and you apparently agreed on the first page but for some reason now are spinning elsewhere.

They did search him.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
What does being a war vet and wounded in action have anything to do with this? laughing out loud

Its comparing apples to oranges.

How is that funny? Because Imp was directly affected by 9/11 and he still finds the "9/11!" excuse to be silly.

Time-Immemorial
I am pretty sure I was directly affected by 9/11 since I joined because of 9/11 and because I have PTSD and my dad lost his job because of 9/11.

Dont play kiss ass to Imp rob, we had this convo already.

Bashar Teg
i wish politico was still here. would love to read his opinion on this. smile

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I am pretty sure I was directly affected by 9/11 since I joined because of 9/11 and because I have PTSD and my dad lost his job because of 9/11.

Dont play kiss ass to Imp rob, we had this convo already. And you're welcome to think how you like.

We did? We're friends and he said something I agree with, so why wouldn't I agree? Are you really going to jump on my back for giving a thumbs up? Cos you might want to think about that considering.

Time-Immemorial
No its the way you are tying to play it, you know it.

Robtard
Okay. Well played, sir.

Time-Immemorial
Did you just try and Kirk me?

Robtard
Try? Got Kirked http://images.killermovies.com/forums/custom_avatars/avatar73571_54.gifto the nth

Impediment
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You know this is wrong. If someone detects a threat on a plane, you are legally obligated to report it, end of story. If someone even says the word "bomb" or "explosion" on a plane, it gets you thrown off and investigated.

This story is just another bullshit story geared to gin up racism and stupid ideas.

Even if this article is bullshit, the fact that a man was ejected from an airplane simply because the language he was speaking was deemed "terrorist-like" or "threat worthy" is racist and profiling.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Impediment
Even if this article is bullshit, the fact that a man was ejected from an airplane simply because the language he was speaking was deemed "terrorist-like" or "threat worthy" is racist and profiling.

But thats only one story, the one you posted, the dallas news says something else entirely.

Look here. A arabic speaking person reported him for saying suspicious things.

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2016/04/19/mitch-schnurman-why-southwest-airlines-didn-t-go-too-far-with-arabic-speaking-passenger

bluewaterrider
It's worth pointing out 2 things:

1. The man was not kicked off the plane merely for speaking Arabic.
The woman who reported him was both Muslim and a native Arabic speaker.

2. Formal battle between visibly armed and uniformed combatants is different from recognizing the threat posed by people in peacetime who are ordinary looking people and also APPARENTLY weaponless.

The following tragedy wasn't prevented because the crew saw someone waving around a gun, for instance ...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_failed_shoe_bomb_attempt

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
It's worth pointing out 2 things:

1. The man was not kicked off the plane merely for speaking Arabic.
The woman who reported him was both Muslim and a native Arabic speaker.



Kiss the racist, biggoted, sexist, narrative of this thread and story goodbyethumb up

NemeBro
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No you can't doesn't work that way. It actually does, you stupid retard, lol.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by NemeBro
It actually does, you stupid retard, lol.

So once you jump the gun, you can take it back and say "no I didn't".

NemeBro
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So once you jump the gun, you can take it back and say "no I didn't". No, but you can change your opinion when more information presents itself, which is a natural response to new information.

We all make judgments and form opinions based on the information were are presented, and most can reevaluate those positions when new information is acquired.

Time-Immemorial
He never took it back, he ran from the thread. Like everyone else did when they realized there was no race bait left. Embarrassing. Shows exactly what they were doing, instead of admitting they were wrong, they popped smoke.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He never took it back, he ran from the thread. Like everyone else did when they realized there was no race bait left. Embarrassing. Shows exactly what they were doing, instead of admitting they were wrong, they popped smoke. Pr outright asked bluewater for the links showing that side of the story and addressed them, giving his own opinion.

He only left the thread when you started aggressively and homoerotically flaunting your stupidity in his face, probably making him uncomfortable.

Because that's what you do.

-Pr-
I checked the thread, saw that nobody had responded to my last post, and thought there was no more reason to post.

I think TI wants to wrestle me or something, though.

Time-Immemorial
Nah you ran off when you ran out of ways to make this a racist thread, and then tried to imply I was racist because I disagree with the premise.

-Pr-
Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. thumb up

Time-Immemorial
So explain how this was racist?

ArtificialGlory
I find it a little troubling how none of the articles that have been posted mention what phrase exactly got the guy kicked off the plane. Right now I'm getting the impression that the offending phrase was "inshallah"(God willing) and kicking someone off a plane for saying that is ridiculous.

BackFire
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's strange that the excuse of "Well the person who reported him (may) have been a native speaker" is seen as in itself an explanation when we don't really know what words he was saying that was threatening. If it actually was just God Willing and a passive reference to ISIS then that's a bit much to remove someone for.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I find it a little troubling how none of the articles that have been posted mention what phrase exactly got the guy kicked off the plane. Right now I'm getting the impression that the offending phrase was "inshallah"(God willing) and kicking someone off a plane for saying that is ridiculous.

This is incorrect, he said he was kicked off for saying inshallah. That does not mean its true. How do you know he didn't actually say something suspicious? Also, is the Muslim woman who reported him a biggot?

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This is incorrect, he said he was kicked off for saying inshallah. That does not mean its true. How do you know he didn't actually say something suspicious? Also, is the Muslim woman who reported him a biggot?
Then why aren't we given the exact phrase(s) that the woman who reported him felt was threatening? Then we could decide whether what he said was suspicious or threatening. And I really don't know enough about the whole situation to decide whether the woman is a bigot or not.

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