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Various Republican officials, from lawmakers to diplomats to security experts, have denounced Donald Trump as unfit for the presidential office in recent months. Some extracts:

Given the enormous power of the office, every candidate for president must be judged rigorously in assessing whether he or she has the competence, intelligence, knowledge, understanding, empathy, judgment, and temperament necessary to keep America on a safe and steady course. Donald Trump fails on each of those measures, and he has proven himself manifestly unqualified to be president.

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Some six dozen Republican members of the intelligence and foreign policy communities signed an open letter published Wednesday criticizing Trump as "fundamentally dishonest" and "utterly unfitted" to be commander-in-chief.

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"Mr. Trump lacks the character, values, and experience to be President," they continue. "He weakens U.S. moral authority as the leader of the free world. He appears to lack basic knowledge about and belief in the U.S. Constitution, U.S. laws, and U.S. institutions, including religious tolerance, freedom of the press, and an independent judiciary.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/former-gop-lawmakers-manifestly-unqualified-trump-represents-an-unacceptable-danger/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-national-security-leaders-pen-letter-calling-trump-utterly-unfitted-to-be-president/
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/50-top-republican-national-security-experts-pen-open-letter-denouncing-trump/

Thoughts? Is Donald Trump really capable of being President of the United States?

He's potentially the worst candidate ever to seriously run for the office.

He has the temperment of a spolied angry child. Why his handlers haven't cut him off of Twitter by now, is both alarm raising and hilarious.

Or maybe, the best.

Holy shit some Republicans don't like Trump?

WOgnIe41GmE

It begs the question though, Surtur, is this really even a left/right issue? I feel like every side of the political spectrum can acknowledge Trump is just incompetent in general.

This being within the contexts of Mike Pence, his VP, being forced to deny things Trump has said to make him appear palatable.

Regardless, I'd appreciate an answer to the question, do you think he's capable?

He just consistently attracts stupid people.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It begs the question though, Surtur, is this really even a left/right issue? I feel like every side of the political spectrum can acknowledge Trump is just incompetent in general.

Okay, so do you feel there aren't people on both sides who don't like Hilary and think she is corrupt,etc.?



But I mean, I think you're probably aware that fact checkers have found all kinds of things wrong with certain speeches Hilary has given? Where she is lied or just gave out mistaken information.

I look at it like this, Trump lies more but she lies *better*.



Ah see there is the keyword. Capable. Do I think he is capable of trying to do something more about illegal immigration? Of trying to get rid of Sanctuary Cities? Of trying to stop a large influx of Syrian refugee's? I certainly think he is capable of that. Notice I said trying, not necessarily succeeding.

I think Hilary is certainly capable of that too and could probably have a much easier time getting it done, it's just that I know she would never even bother. She actually wants to more or less do the opposite of all that. So if someone put a gun to my head and said "pick one" I'd pick Trump without hesitation.

When you fail to listen to the people..Trump is what you get. The truth is Trump should have never happened, he should have never even had to happen.

This is why it's just insulting to call all Trump supporters deplorables or half of them deplorables..because there are a large number of people that are just tired of the status quo..as opposed to specifically liking Trump. When politicians and people in general dismiss this all as racism they just flat out miss the god damn point entirely.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
He just consistently attracts stupid people.

People on both sides are stupid, people on both sides are ignorant.

Originally posted by Robtard
He has the temperment of a spolied angry child. Why his handlers haven't cut him off of Twitter by now, is both alarm raising and hilarious.

A book was written on Hillarys temperament, and it is worse his. So nah, read a book for once outside your comfort zone and you might learn something.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, so do you feel there aren't people on both sides who don't like Hilary and think she is corrupt,etc.?I haven't seen her denounced to this extent by anyone of importance, certainly not by her own party. This isn't a question of just not liking the candidate, but slamming them as utterly incapable of holding office.My point had nothing to do with the Trump and Clinton's honesty, but the fact that his VP has been forced to create a false narrative surrounding Trump because the reality is just indefensible.Surely a wider perspective on the president's political responsibilities are required here though. Running a country isn't all about immigration.I understand that much certainly. But this is about Trump, not his supporters. However, being mad at current politicians isn't doesn't justify voting a buffoon into the highest office, so I can't sympathise.

I like how you call it "being mad" when it's a fundamental disagreement with someone about their policies.

Anyways, I do feel Trump is capable because this isn't a country run by one man. Trump, on his own, without any support..is a lot different than what the reality would be if he wins.

People seem to forget presidents actually have people they need to answer to and work with in order to get things done.

Also what I said about why Trump has gotten so far can't be ignored. Because this will just happen again if it is.

And entire book called "Crisis of Character" was written on her temperament.

Her extreme cussing rants, her throwing thing at people, her giving bill a black eye and hundreds of other things

Book>meditate opinion

Why are people worrying about Trump? He's losing.

Originally posted by Astner
Why are people worrying about Trump? He's not getting elected.

Which is exactly why I worry more and more about Hilary each day. It's like the shittiest oncoming storm ever.

But it's also why I feel we need to look at how and why Trump got as far as he did. We will have more Trumps in the future, and there is no guarantee they will go up against someone whose lies and corruption are as well protected as Hilary's.

Originally posted by Astner
Why are people worrying about Trump? He's losing.

According to the polls taken from people with landline phones that are stacked with more democrats then republicans?

Originally posted by Surtur
Which is exactly why I worry more and more about Hilary each day. It's like the shittiest oncoming storm ever.

But it's also why I feel we need to look at how and why Trump got as far as he did. We will have more Trumps in the future, and there is no guarantee they will go up against someone whose lies and corruption are as well protected as Hilary's.

Dude you have nothing to fear, how can you even think she is going to win? He is beating her in all the states he needs to to secure the nomination.

Originally posted by Robtard
He has the temperment of a spolied angry child. Why his handlers haven't cut him off of Twitter by now, is both alarm raising and hilarious.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
A book was written on Hillarys temperament, and it is worse his. So nah, read a book for once outside your comfort zone and you might learn something.

https://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Character-Discloses-Firsthand-Experience/dp/1455568872

Originally posted by Surtur
Which is exactly why I worry more and more about Hilary each day. It's like the shittiest oncoming storm ever.


Originally posted by Surtur
But it's also why I feel we need to look at how and why Trump got as far as he did. We will have more Trumps in the future, and there is no guarantee they will go up against someone whose lies and corruption are as well protected as Hilary's.
If anything the drama and fear-mongering got Trump the nominee, and though he will lose the election his elaborate marketing campaign will put his company on the map.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Dude you have nothing to fear, how can you even think she is going to win? He is beating her in all the states he needs to to secure the nomination.

I can tell you why: President Obama emailed her on one of her servers under a pseudonym.

No, that fact in and of itself certainly isn't why I think she will win. The fact that..that bomb was f*cking dropped and..nothing, nada, zilch. I've seen no follow ups at all and if any were done I'm guessing the stories were buried under 1,000 anti Trump articles and articles about BLM and all that shit.

I just don't know how anyone can go up against someone who could potentially have had the PRESIDENT lying for them and nobody gives enough of a shit to even look into it.

You tend to hear about more stories than me: have you heard of *any* followups on this issue?

Trump is going to win by a landslide, the people here just have not figured it out yet.

The polls are weighted to favor Hillary by 10 points.

Once he wins, you will see bellyaching like never before.

Originally posted by Astner



If anything the drama and fear-mongering got Trump the nominee, and though he will lose the election his elaborate marketing campaign will put his company on the map.

I think the reason Trump became so popular needs to be examined and I feel we'd be doing a disservice to ourselves to lay all of that on fear mongering or racism or any of the things people like to claim all Trump supporters are.

There is just this need for change in the air, and people just don't think they are going to get that with Hilary.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Trump is going to win by a landslide, the people here just have not figured it out yet.

The polls are weighted to favor Hillary by 10 points.

Once he wins, you will see bellyaching like never before.

Yeah but..have you seen any followups at all on this Obama pseudonym email shit? Any politicians asking "why did this happen?" or anything?

People are out there willing to pay you for dirt on Trump, but it seems people want to ignore even potential dirt on Hilary.

That is what worries me. I'm not even saying for sure Obama did something wrong or that he lied, but the mere fact people don't even seem to want to bother to find out..disturbs me to no end.

I mean people got mad because Bill lied about getting blown lol.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Trump is going to win by a landslide, the people here just have not figured it out yet.

The polls are weighted to favor Hillary by 10 points.

Once he wins, you will see bellyaching like never before.

By how many electoral votes or states are you expecting Trump to take it?

I still expect Clinton to win, not by a huge/yuge margin, but a win nonetheless. Though she could potentially slaughter Trump if he keeps up his antics in the next two debates.

I also expect waterworks form the Trumpanistas once she wins. "Cheated", "rigged election", "corrupt government" etc. etc. etc.

This thread is embarrassing.

Hurr durr, everyone who is republican is stupid. Hurr durr, even republicans are smarter than Trump. Hurr durr, we all hate Hillary but she aint Trump.

I see nothing wrong with career politicians who gain financially if Trump isnt elected insulting him. It only makes him stronger.

Trump will win, its already been predicted by a guy who was never been wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
By how many electoral votes or states are you expecting?

I expect Clinton to win, not by a huge/yuge margin, but a win nonetheless. Though she could potentially slaughter Trump if he keeps up his antics in the next two debates.

And where are you getting all these talking points, which media channel? CNN or MSNBC are both, Honestly, have you ever asked yourself "is being liberal right?"

If he gets the overwhelming popular vote, the electoral college will have no choice to follow suit, I think he will get 271-275.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And where are you getting all these talking points, which media channel? CNN or MSNBC are both, Honestly, have you ever asked yourself "is being liberal right?"

If he gets the overwhelming popular vote, the electoral college will have no choice to follow suit, I think he will get 271-275.

Rather hostile when I just asked a question from a statement you made, eh.

271-275. Cool, thanks.

You keep saying the same thing the media is saying is why I am asking. Since when was the media the court of public opinion?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You keep saying the same thing the media is saying is why I am asking. Since when was the media the court of public opinion?
What exactly are you talking about with "what the media is saying"?

Which reliable news outlets are you getting your information, and which polls are they posting?

Polling is not what it used to be 8 years ago. The polls said Brexit a no go.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Trump will win, its already been predicted by a guy who was never been wrong. Himself?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-headed-for-a-win-says-professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/

I regret not betting on Brexit when the odds were 5/1 I might bet on Trump winning though.

I am thinking of doing the same

Virginia going Republican has crazy odds 9/1

Is it worth the bet?

To soon to tell.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-headed-for-a-win-says-professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/

Interesting.

But I'd not put money on the election because of that guy. There was some college that had since the (iirc) late 70's successfully predicted the election via mock elections. They came up with a Sanders Vs Trump 2016 election and Sanders winning.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
To soon to tell. But then the odds will change. If Trump does really well, hell pull states like VA and CO back to red before he starts to gain in traditionally blue states.

Originally posted by Robtard
Interesting.

But I'd not put money on the election because of that guy. There was some college that had since the (iirc) late 70's successfully predicted the election via mock elections. They came up with a Sanders Vs Trump 2016 election and Sanders winning. Sanders winning among college voters.

Yeah, college is stupid.

Oh my god youre actually being sarcastic, arent you? A group of young people, most of whom are unemployed and rely on student loans to drink a lot of beer while still relying mostly on their parents but feel entitled to have everything convenience them and barely understand economics or geopolitics support a socialist candidate who barely works and doesnt understand geopolitics or economics.

Who would have thought it?

Your idiotic and childish views of college aside, the point I was making that just because someone has predicted the elections correctly for X amount of years, you may not want to use that as a reason to bet money and here's why:

Western Illinois University has successfully predicted every single presidential election with 100 percent accuracy since 1975.

Despite their previous flawless record, they were wrong this time.

Your idiotic and childish views of college aside, the point I was making that just because someone has predicted the elections correctly for X amount of years, you may not want to use that as a reason to bet money and here's why:

Western Illinois University has successfully predicted every single presidential election with 100 percent accuracy since 1975.

Despite their previous flawless record, they were wrong this time.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your idiotic and childish views of college aside, the point I was making that just because someone has predicted the elections correctly for X amount of years, you may not want to use that as a reason to bet money and here's why:

Western Illinois University has successfully predicted every single presidential election with 100 percent accuracy since 1975.

Despite their previous flawless record, they were wrong this time. Sounds like a bullshit article designed to meme Sanders into presidency.

They picked the wrong meme.

Originally posted by Its2016
Sounds like a bullshit article designed to meme Sanders into presidency.

They picked the wrong meme.

Cool then. Go bet all your dole money on Trump winning then, make your fortune

http://12160.info/video/video/show?id=2649739%3AVideo%3A1639778&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

WOW

Originally posted by Its2016
http://12160.info/video/video/show?id=2649739%3AVideo%3A1639778&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video

Holy shit that is daming. The MSM should be playing this video on loop instead of the video of Trump saying stupid things like that he sexually assaults women 10 years ago.

Of course the libtards will just say he's grabbing her knee and nothing more but why does the video cut out there? Very suspicious. And where's Hillary in all this? Probably off planning Benghazi, that's where.

Its pretty lolworthy. Here we have two womanisers, one is running for president, the other as first lady.

Originally posted by BackFire
Holy shit that is daming. The MSM should be playing this video on loop instead of the video of Trump saying stupid things like that he sexually assaults women 10 years ago.

Of course the libtards will just say he's grabbing her knee and nothing more but why does the video cut out there? Very suspicious. And where's Hillary in all this? Probably off planning Benghazi, that's where.

Great post

I just wonder where Rob was when someone was bringing up something similar, but as a reason for why Hilary win..because *insert name of some dude* has corrected predicted this shit.

I'm sure he just didn't see it, there is no other explanation.

Theyre now predicting SC to go for Hill. This is so retarded.

Originally posted by BackFire
Holy shit that is daming. The MSM should be playing this video on loop instead of the video of Trump saying stupid things like that he sexually assaults women 10 years ago.

Of course the libtards will just say he's grabbing her knee and nothing more but why does the video cut out there? Very suspicious. And where's Hillary in all this? Probably off planning Benghazi, that's where.

I think everyone knows why this isn't being played on a loop lol. Because the person involved has the last name of "Clinton".

These people literally can do no wrong. So if she becomes president we're essentially just saying "hey, all your corruption and lies in 30 years of politics is no biggie, please keep on keeping on".

So now people said this audio will finish Trump. I'm sure those same people will now say this will finish the Clintons, right?

Though re-reading the post..I can't help but wonder if you were being sarcastic.

I think backfire was being sarcastic with a little hint of conviction because even a rapist such as himself cant work out which rapist he likes more.

Originally posted by Surtur
I just wonder where Rob was when someone was bringing up something similar, but as a reason for why Hilary win..because *insert name of some dude* has corrected predicted this shit.

I'm sure he just didn't see it, there is no other explanation.

What exactly are you asking me to answer? Your post is jumbled and confusing.

Rob thinks Romney was ousted by the party even though they used him to slate Trump.

Its loberal logic, my friends.

Originally posted by Surtur

So now people said this audio will finish Trump. I'm sure those same people will now say this will finish the Clintons, right?

I doubt very much this will be the last or most damaging revelation about Trump over the next few weeks.

Trump is a wealthy person appealing to the normal people, Hill is a nprmal person whp raised tp the establishemnt. Make your pick, murka.

This debate is going to be the best debate we have ever seen.

Originally posted by Its2016
Rob thinks Romney was ousted by the party even though they used him to slate Trump.

Its loberal logic, my friends.

You're really dumb.

Originally posted by jaden101
I doubt very much this will be the last or most damaging revelation about Trump over the next few weeks.

We should take bets on what's coming out next. Eg Trump sleeping with an underage ladyboy in Thailand. Murdering a prostitute. Dropping the N-word. Being in a three-way with Cruz and his wife. Who knows.

I'm thinking the next thing will be a full blown Trump sex tape from the 90's. Apparently the media has now been saying there's a lot more out there that's worse than this leak from yesterday. Some have hinted at a potential sex tape. We'll have to wait and see.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
This debate is going to be the best debate we have ever seen.

That depends on what you consider good. I'd think that fleshed out policies of why each candidate's plans for the future would be better than their opponents would be best as opposed to two a$$hole candidates arguing over who's less of an utter s4it-cvnt.

I hope you get to watch it

Originally posted by Robtard
You're really dumb. no, you are.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I hope you get to watch it

They show it here live and repeated. Cringed a lot at the last one although didn't watch it all.

Cool