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Who wins?

Good fight. Depends on how powerful you think Sidious became off his draining of Byss.

Sidious stomps either alone. Together, they'll put up something of a fight but die every time.

Galen gets one shotted, Revan doesn't last much longer

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Galen gets one shotted, Revan doesn't last much longer Leave.

Sidious wins.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Galen gets one shotted, Revan doesn't last much longer

Sidious stomps.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Sidious wins.

Originally posted by Azronger
Sidious stomps. He couldn't stomp Galen on his own, let-alone Revan.

Originally posted by Jmanghan Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Galen gets one shotted, Revan doesn't last much longer Leave.

Another huge feat thats overlooked about Galen is that, right before he faces the Emperor, he beats Darth Vader. Which is no easy task...

Originally posted by SunRazer
Sidious stomps either alone. Together, they'll put up something of a fight but die every time.

Team.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Another huge feat thats overlooked about Galen is that, right before he faces the Emperor, he beats Darth Vader. Which is no easy task...

Not to mention Imperial Forces.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Not to mention Imperial Forces. Indeed.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Another huge feat thats overlooked about Galen is that, right before he faces the Emperor, he beats Darth Vader. Which is no easy task...
1. Wasn't it implied that Vader let him win, at least in the novel.
2. Palpatine would oneshot Galen, lol.

1. It is not. It's implied by Witwer that Vader did so in TFUII but that's just the opinion of a non canon source.

2. Except he was incapable of doing so despite noting that he'd grown desperate in their fight.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
1. Wasn't it implied that Vader let him win, at least in the novel.
2. Palpatine would oneshot Galen, lol. No, not even close.

He didn't, because he couldn't. He howled in pain in the novel before Galen went Oneness.

That's not the line you want to use Jman given the wording of the text which is... questionable.

His bones however were being lit up meaning Sidious couldn't shield himself completely from the lightning.

http://i.imgur.com/ni4vuIj.jpg

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
That's not the line you want to use Jman given the wording of the text which is... questionable.

His bones however were being lit up meaning Sidious couldn't shield himself completely from the lightning.

http://i.imgur.com/ni4vuIj.jpg I guess.

I'd just bet on, and hope that Lasciviously means something different in SW then it does irl.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No, not even close.

He didn't, because he couldn't. He howled in pain in the novel before Galen went Oneness.
Eh.

LMAO.
1. Sorry, I wanted to say Vader, but Galen is ~ TFU Vader. Also, Palpatine didn't fight serious-he wanted to make him a darksider.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I guess.

I'd just bet on, and hope that Lasciviously means something different in SW then it does irl.
Lol. It didn't affect Palpatine, like against Windu.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Eh.

LMAO.
1. Sorry, I wanted to say Vader, but Galen is ~ TFU Vader. Also, Palpatine didn't fight serious-he wanted to make him a darksider.

Galen is Vader's clear superior as of TFU.

"Vader prepared for combat again. His power over the apprentice, however, was gone. His lightsaber went skittering and sparking across the floor, twisted out of his grip by telekinesis. The Force wrenched him into the air, as he had once lifted the apprentice's father, and a barrage of missiles struck at him with increasing strength. He raised his gloved hands to defend himself, but the battery continued." - The Force Unleashed.

And Sidious may have wanted to at first but when Galen actively started resisting him he grew desperate meaning he wouldn't have been holding back.

"The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations."- The Force Unleashed.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Lol. It didn't affect Palpatine, like against Windu.

Sidious's pain tolerance and ability to preserve himself with the Darkside has little to do with the actual affect on his body.

Is the quote from Galens perspective?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Sidious's pain tolerance and ability to preserve himself with the Darkside has little to do with the actual affect on his body.
So?

So you're wrong about it not affecting him.

Yeah, affect is the wrong word.
But I don't really care about this debate, tbh.

Then don't jump into one you can't handle.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yeah, affect is the wrong word.
But I don't really care about this debate, tbh. Then why comment?

Btw, on a sidenote, Syn, you should get a PSP or Vita, my favorite version of TFU is the PSP Version, graphics suck, but it makes up for it with tons of single-player content, and a multiplayer mode, and its portable, to boot.

If you want more info, just look it up, but if you can get your hands on it... Trust me, it stomps the PS3 and Xbox 360 Versions.

I can handle it But I don't want too.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Then why comment?

So, I am saying that I don't want to debate anymore, isn't okay, but you quiting because I have Traya on Dooku level and you dismiss sources is okay? Kek.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
So, I am saying that I don't want to debate anymore, isn't okay, but you quiting because I have Traya on Dooku level and you dismiss sources is okay? Kek. What are you talking about?

I'm sorry that you got shat on in our debate, and this debate, but this isnt helping you save face. Rather, it makes you look more pathetic and desperate.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Then why comment?

Btw, on a sidenote, Syn, you should get a PSP or Vita, my favorite version of TFU is the PSP Version, graphics suck, but it makes up for it with tons of single-player content, and a multiplayer mode, and its portable, to boot.

If you want more info, just look it up, but if you can get your hands on it... Trust me, it stomps the PS3 and Xbox 360 Versions.

I'm just a poorfag.

Team wins. Prime Revan could give DE Sidious something of a challenge by himself (not that Revan would come close to winning, just that Sidious would at least break a sweat.) With Galen's help the duo might take it. Galen's raw power and Revan's knowledge would be difficult for Sidious to overcome, if he could overcome them at all.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
What are you talking about?

I'm sorry that you got shat on in our debate, and this debate, but this isnt helping you save face. Rather, it makes you look more pathetic and desperate.
That you said "I'll respond to you later" and then suddenly "I don't will answer because you have Traya on Dooku level".

In this one? IIRC, it was even stated that Sidious could solo Vader and Galen, so :/

Lol. So that I don't want to debate anymore, because I don't care about this debate makes me look pathetic? WTF?

Uh, excuse you? Where does it say Sidious could solo TFU Vader and prime Galen?

Stop.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Stop.
?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Stop.

Urs under your protection Beanie boi?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
That you said "I'll respond to you later" and then suddenly "I don't will answer because you have Traya on Dooku level".

In this one? IIRC, it was even stated that Sidious could solo Vader and Galen, so :/

Lol. So that I don't want to debate anymore, because I don't care about this debate makes me look pathetic? WTF? No, we continued our debate in another thread, and when I said the boulder that Jaden Korr moved was bigger then anything the 3 masters had to moved, you just said "Yeah, but its still impressive."

Whats your point, we know Sidious could solo Vader or Galen?

If you're trying to suggest he could solo both of them, I dunno about that.

It makes you look pathetic because when Syn proved you wrong, you were like "Lol, I don't care about this debate".

Then you said you could handle it.

Just say that you lost or concede. Saying you could win this debate, but you don't feel like it, just sounds stupid.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
? I was addressing Syn, he needs to stop debating.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I was addressing Syn, he needs to stop debating. Yeah, because he won.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I was addressing Syn, he needs to stop debating.

Only if you take that journey with me.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No, we continued our debate in another thread, and when I said the boulder that Jaden Korr moved was bigger then anything the 3 masters had to moved, you just said "Yeah, but its still impressive."

Whats your point, we know Sidious could solo Vader or Galen?

If you're trying to suggest he could solo both of them, I dunno about that.

It makes you look pathetic because when Syn proved you wrong, you were like "Lol, I don't care about this debate".

Then you said you could handle it.

Just say that you lost or concede. Saying you could win this debate, but you don't feel like it, just sounds stupid.
You said that the feat would be replicated by an padawan, lol.

Both at once. Feat wise, he could definietly. He easily dominated DE Luke(who is > Galen and > TFU Vader), and he could just Force Storm them all.

I just used the wrong word. Also, this part of the debate was won by Syn, but I meant that I would win the Sidious vs Galen+Revan part.

Good, my point: None of them would last more than a few seconds against Sidious in a Lightsaber fight, who easily bested DE Luke, blitzed Kolar and Tiin, stomped Fisto and pre-vaapad Windu.
Also, he could just force storm them.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I was addressing Syn, he needs to stop debating.
LMAO

Originally posted by Ursumeles
You said that the feat would be replicated by an padawan, lol.

Both at once. Feat wise, he could definietly. He easily dominated DE Luke(who is > Galen and > TFU Vader), and he could just Force Storm them all.

I just used the wrong word. Also, this part of the debate was won by Syn, but I meant that I would win the Sidious vs Galen+Revan part.

Good, my point: None of them would last more than a few seconds against Sidious in a Lightsaber fight, who easily bested DE Luke, blitzed Kolar and Tiin, stomped Fisto and pre-vaapad Windu.
Also, he could just force storm them.

It was, Jaden Korr, a 14 year old Padawan, who did something superior to what those 3 "strong" Jedi Masters did.

But you can't prove that, and theres more evidence arguing against you then for you, also, Luke won that fight .

Ok, then win it then. Revan > Galen > TFU Vader, and Via powerscaling, ANH and possibly ESB Vader.

He never stomped Windu.

There you have it, Jaden Korr, not any average padawan.
They are powerful, lol.

How is more against me?
Y' know that Luke and Sidious fought more than one time in DE, or? Also, Luke only won when he was heavily amped, lol.

Via powerscaling is what with ESB Vader?

He killed Agen and Tiin before Windu could react, lol.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
There you have it, Jaden Korr, not any average padawan.
They are powerful, lol.

How is more against me?
Y' know that Luke and Sidious fought more than one time in DE, or? Also, Luke only won when he was heavily amped, lol.

Via powerscaling is what with ESB Vader?

He killed Agen and Tiin before Windu could react, lol.

He wasn't even a Jedi for that long when he did that.

IIRC, it was Leia using a form of Battle Meditation.

Depends on where you rank Ben Kenobi next to ANH Vader, you probably think Vader would stomp him though.

That counts as stomping him?... Lol.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
That's not the line you want to use Jman given the wording of the text which is... questionable.

His bones however were being lit up meaning Sidious couldn't shield himself completely from the lightning.

If you only take the novel seriously then stop using other sources you shitstain.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
He wasn't even a Jedi for that long when he did that.

IIRC, it was Leia using a form of Battle Meditation.

Depends on where you rank Ben Kenobi next to ANH Vader, you probably think Vader would stomp him though.

That counts as stomping him?... Lol.
Yes, but that doesn't mean sh!t. Kyp did sh!t that is >>>that after a few weeks, too.

Yes, which unleashed most of Lukes potential. It wasn't a fair battle.

Please answer the question. Who is > Vader, because of powerscaling?
ESB Vader wouldn't stomp Ben, no. Not sure about ragdolling tho

He couldn't react, lol.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
If you only take the novel seriously then stop using other sources you shitstain.

I know other people take the other sources seriously so I'll use them to prove my point to those people.

Yet when we use them you dismiss them. Hypocritical f-uck.

Because I don't take them. Or rather, I do so only where they don't contradict the novel.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yes, but that doesn't mean sh!t. Kyp did sh!t that is >>>that after a few weeks, too.

Yes, which unleashed most of Lukes potential. It wasn't a fair battle.

Please answer the question. Who is > Vader, because of powerscaling?
ESB Vader wouldn't stomp Ben, no. Not sure about ragdolling tho

He couldn't react, lol.

Thats not the point, you asked me to prove if a Padawan could do what the Jedi Masters did, he did.

I don't even think it was a few weeks, honestly :/

Battle Meditation doesn't unleash someone's true potential, it can't do that.

Ok, well, Lord Starkiller, who is the main character of Ultimate Sith Edition, and who is commonly agreed on as the weakest version of him, is stomping Ben Kenobi in single combat while distracted, and also stomping an Amped ESB Luke, who has Force Lightning.

He didn't try to react.

You said that an padawan can do that.

It is stated to do unleash Luke's potential. IIRC, in the Audiodrama.

An non canon versio, which plays 4 years after TFU? I don't care.

Wat?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
You said that an padawan can do that.

It is stated to do unleash Luke's potential. IIRC, in the Audiodrama.

An non canon versio, which plays 4 years after TFU? I don't care.

Wat?

Ok, see, Boulders, aren't hard to move for force users, in general.

Boulders are about the same size as the rocks Korr moved.

I don't see why you're trying to argue against that.

You really should care, nothing has changed as far as power level's go, and this is the weakest version of Starkiller, not just by our opinion, but by Palpatine's.

He didn't try to react, he thought Tiin and Kolar could handle themselves.

I don't argue against it.
Like I said often enough, only because Korr can do it doesn't mean any padawan can do it-after Nova it was weven an padawan in the enclave.

Starkiller =/= Galen and non-canon. Or Anakin ragdolls Yoda and Sidious.

He didn't even known that who was attacked first. Also it says, before he could react, that means that It wasn't possible for him.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
I don't argue against it.
Like I said often enough, only because Korr can do it doesn't mean any padawan can do it-after Nova it was weven an padawan in the enclave.

Starkiller =/= Galen and non-canon. Or Anakin ragdolls Yoda and Sidious.

He didn't even known that who was attacked first. Also it says, before he could react, that means that It wasn't possible for him.

Fair enough.

Galen Marek is above Starkiller, definitely.

Ok, then you, nor Nova, can use Vrook fighting with the Exile in the DS Version of the game.

On a sidenote, Anakin did that after being given the power of The Son. Not via his own power.

Fair enough.

Nah. 'Killers feats are better.

I don't do. The only problem I have with that is that it plays at the time of ESB, seemingly. If it would be TFU time, then we could maybe use it-but only for 'Killer, not Galen.

Post-Force shift ritual Sidious wins. DE stomps.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Nah. 'Killers feats are better.

I don't do. The only problem I have with that is that it plays at the time of ESB, seemingly. If it would be TFU time, then we could maybe use it-but only for 'Killer, not Galen.

I'd say his domination of Vader and ability to drive Sidious to desperation places him above his clone.

,

Prime-Revan and Galen Marek should be enough to stop DE Sidious.

They charge and die

Originally posted by CuckedCurry
They charge and die kMrxRaHZT68

CuckedCurry

The fact that they always charge into fights using sabers first

And from the get go they will lose sabers

CurriedCuck

What about the droid attack on your mother?

I have no mother :/

Originally posted by CaveDude33211
What?


CuckedCurry probably places Grievous above Dooku and Vader.

No point in even questioning him on it.

DarthThor I distinctly remember you saying one time than Canon > Legends you have no right to pipe up on anything my good friend