Hillary Clinton Blames Abe Lincoln for her lies

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Time-Immemorial
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Its2016
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
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N99W6Zt8nek I forgot about that. Lol, "Secretary, youre no honest Abe"

Time-Immemorial
Can you believe the nerve of her on this. This right here is completely disqualifying. She lied about the email content, then blames in on Abe Lincolnlaughing out loudlaughing out loudlaughing out loud

Surtur
Look I know Trump has lied about things, but it's still just great to finally..finally see Hilary just flat out called on her lies. It's awesome to see someone just flat out talk about all of the accusations of sexual abuse that have been hurled at Bill Clinton over the years. Nobody wants to directly address these things.

Trump did much better in this debate.

Its2016
I predicted Trump to go hard and bringing rape victims in the studio was a good move. He attacked her hard on her emails and attacked the moderators.

Third debate will really hit her home and Hillary will probably beg for votes at that point. Im glad she apologised for the deplorable comment. Hopefully the moderators will attack her on her emails. Trumps been attacked enough and its getting tiresome ( he said mean things over and over again) emails will be the focus next debate.

Time-Immemorial
Guess what, all the liberals on huff post and every where else will say "She didn't lie!"

They will say look right here she said she never lied. She literally says "I don't believe I have ever lied I don't believe I ever will lie."

GWqt31A2R0k

Bashar Teg
she was explaining the context of her words. but believe what you will. none of it matters. your orange messiah has failed you. the GOP backed the wrong pony. best to just count your losses, blame obama, and start worrying about those senate seats.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
she was explaining the context of her words. but believe what you will. none of it matters. your orange messiah has failed you. the GOP backed the wrong pony. best to just count your losses, blame obama, and start worrying about those senate seats.

Oh and you of coarse believe the context of her words, even though nothing was mentioned in that speech about Abraham Lincoln having a two faced public and private policy? Are you really that dumb to fall for that lie?

Trump won the debate, and he is still in this, so nah. What you said is inaccurate.

Surtur
Lol yeah what was the context then? So was she saying Abe Lincoln was the one who was two faced?

Surtur
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh and you of coarse believe the context of her words, even though nothing was mentioned in that speech about Abraham Lincoln? Are you really that dumb to fall for that lie?

Trump won the debate, and he is still in this, so nah. What you said is inaccurate.

Have you read the speech? Just curious what she was really saying these things to.

Its2016
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
she was explaining the context of her words. but believe what you will. none of it matters. your orange messiah has failed you. the GOP backed the wrong pony. best to just count your losses, blame obama, and start worrying about those senate seats. hillarys integrity is being exposed. Shes literally saying one thing doing another.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
she was explaining the context of her words. but believe what you will. none of it matters. your orange messiah has failed you. the GOP backed the wrong pony. best to just count your losses, blame obama, and start worrying about those senate seats.

I love how guilable you are to believe anything she says, literally about anything. You can't come to terms with she is a criminal and a liar, and will say or do anything. Even Anderson Cooper has the balls to call her out on it, how dumb does that make you feel to still support this warhawk?

Bashar Teg
i don't believe or disbelieve her. i just know that she never "blamed" lincoln. it's just an incorrect interpretation of what was said. again though, have fun with it. run to the nearest rooftop and shout it for all to hear. doesn't matter. trump is done.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Surtur
Have you read the speech? Just curious what she was really saying these things to.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't believe or disbelieve her. i just know that she never "blamed" lincoln. it's just an incorrect interpretation of what was said. again though, have fun with it. run to the nearest rooftop and shout it for all to hear. doesn't matter. trump is done.

She did blame him, she directly said it. Sure Trump is "done" and now you are going to have this woman start ww3 with Russia, how does that make you feel to support her?

How does it make you feel to support a woman that is going to kill more people and have more blood on her hands.

The fact that you are voting for shows you care nothing about human life and are pretty disgusting person.

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't believe or disbelieve her. i just know that she never "blamed" lincoln. it's just an incorrect interpretation of what was said. again though, have fun with it. run to the nearest rooftop and shout it for all to hear. doesn't matter. trump is done.

But she did seem to suggest she was speaking in direct reference to Lincoln when she said that, would you agree?

She says that was something she about "about" Lincoln. Yet this is what happened:

“But If Everybody's Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.”* CLINTON: You just have to sort of figure out how to -- getting back to that word, "balance" -- how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that's not just a comment about today. That, I think, has probably been true for all of our history, and if you saw the Spielberg movie, Lincoln, and how he was maneuvering and working to get the 13th Amendment passed,"

It wasn't about Lincoln, he was just an example she used.

Time-Immemorial
Yea I saw that movie, it had nothing in it about having a public and a private policy, its a complete lie.

Bashar Teg
she said that general context was the lincoln film. was she lying? i don't know. i just know she didn't blame abraham frikin lincoln at the debate last night.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
she said that general context was the lincoln film. was she lying? i don't know. i just know she didn't blame abraham frikin lincoln at the debate last night.

Are you serious? She flat out said "I said I have a public and private policy because of Abe Lincoln movie."

Nothing in that movie even has the tones of this.

Its a complete lie.

If everything in these speeches was hunky dory, then why did she refuse to release them??????

Surtur
Even if it was 100% about private and public policy, she was still just citing that as an example. Yet her response seems to suggest she said that quote in specific reference to Lincoln. When what she was really doing was trying to pivot away from her shadiness by name dropping Lincoln.

Oh boy did she fail spectacularly.

Surtur
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
she said that general context was the lincoln film. was she lying? i don't know. i just know she didn't blame abraham frikin lincoln at the debate last night.

But she was lying in her quote. She says what she said was about Lincoln. It wasn't about Lincoln at all.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Surtur
Even if it was 100% about private and public policy, she was still just citing that as an example. Yet her response seems to suggest she said that quote in specific reference to Lincoln. When what she was really doing was trying to pivot away from her shadiness by name dropping Lincoln.

Oh boy did she fail spectacularly.

well yes it did seem to be an attempt to shift attention to a seemingly unimportant context...when said context really doesn't diminish her words as it relates to the current general context. maybe if trump had hit her with that instead of "hur dur she blame lincoln" he might have wounded her case, instead of a just making people giggle with another silly-yet-false one liner.

Surtur
It's true she didn't blame Lincoln. She just more or less did a "Lincoln did id too" defense.

In other words "Lincoln was two faced in getting the 13th amendment passed, thus me being two faced isn't so bad" was the general theme.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
well yes it did seem to be an attempt to shift attention to a seemingly unimportant context...when said context really doesn't diminish her words as it relates to the current general context. maybe if trump had hit her with that instead of "hur dur she blame lincoln" he might have wounded her case, instead of a just making people giggle with another silly-yet-false one liner.

Pretty much a lie, he did wound her with it, as its all over the news and everyone is running in on all channels.

Bashar Teg
it was more of a try at 'all politicians are 2 faced, even lincoln'. a shitty thing to say, but also 100% accurate.

Its2016
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't believe or disbelieve her. i just know that she never "blamed" lincoln. it's just an incorrect interpretation of what was said. again though, have fun with it. run to the nearest rooftop and shout it for all to hear. doesn't matter. trump is done. she said she said it because it was something lincoln said, when really she just lied, and she covered it with talking about lincoln and the 13 th amendment. "I lied because i watch films about lincoln, remember slavery? Hint hint, Trump is racist."

Blaming Lincoln on your lies is a shitty thing to do.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Surtur
It's true she didn't blame Lincoln. She just more or less did a "Lincoln did id too" defense.

In other words "Lincoln was two faced in getting the 13th amendment passed, thus me being two faced isn't so bad" was the general theme.

Nailed it.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Nailed it.

ah good, so you agree that the thread title is a falsehood. i knew we were bros

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
ah good, so you agree that the thread title is a falsehood. i knew we were bros

She blamed Lincoln for her problem. Just like you are trying to do right now.

Its funny the hoops you are jumping through to correct this, almost pathetic.

Adam_PoE
The actual email from WikiLeaks:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/super_hottie_2/Clinton-Lincoln.jpg

Time-Immemorial
Thanks for posting proof she said what she said, and Lincoln never did what she claimed in that movie. He never said you have to tell the public one thing and privately do something else.

Owned yourself again.

Hows it feel to vote for a warhawk?

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The actual email from WikiLeaks:



next TI thread: "Hillary blames sausage for her lies!!"

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Thanks for posting proof she said what she said, and Lincoln never did what she claimed in that movie. He never said you have to tell the public one thing and privately do something else.

Owned yourself again.

Hows it feel to vote for a warhawk?

Its2016
The issue is should she use Lincoln to justify her flip flops.

Time-Immemorial

Bashar Teg
wow i was joking, but okay. have fun with that.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
wow i was joking, but okay. have fun with that.

Pretty sure I was following along with the joke, since she actually did talk about sausage.

Robtard
This thread is hilarious

dadudemon
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it was more of a try at 'all politicians are 2 faced, even lincoln'. a shitty thing to say, but also 100% accurate.

Again, this is the best summary of what is up. thumb up

Except Trump. He seems to not have a filter.

Its2016
Trump has 20 faces. Even he doesnt believe Trump.

Darth Truculent
The definition of politics - lies wrapped in a neat bundle which people believe

Hicere
It might be.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The actual email from WikiLeaks:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/super_hottie_2/Clinton-Lincoln.jpg

Interesting. I took it as if she's saying you have to be flexible. You have to bend in order to appease everyone. Maybe im interpreting words but without delving deeper that's what i got. Good post

Time-Immemorial
Hence why you are a brain dead voter. Clearly thats not what Abe said to do. That was her interpretation in her sick head, to be a liar.

Surtur
But again people are trying to say she was talking ABOUT Lincoln when she said this. She wasn't lol. People need to stop saying that, what she did was use Abe as an EXAMPLE.

Whether she was right or wrong to do so, people need to realize this was said in general, it wasn't just about Abe.

Surtur
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Interesting. I took it as if she's saying you have to be flexible. You have to bend in order to appease everyone. Maybe im interpreting words but without delving deeper that's what i got. Good post

But..you see that isn't how she explained what she said lol. She tried to say she was talking about Lincoln, she wasn't.

It's irrelevant if she was saying "be flexible". What is relevant is she tried to say "der I was talking about Lincoln" when no, she wasn't lol. The way she phrased it would imply there was nothing at all to what she said besides talking about Abe, which is an outright lie.

Time-Immemorial
I would like to see a quote of abe saying "you have to lie to the american people, and in private tell your donors you got their back.

Surtur
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I would like to see a quote of abe saying "you have to lie to the american people, and in private tell your donors you got their back.

Yeah since if this was his legit philosophy the whole "calling him honest Abe" doesn't actually make any sense at all.

But we have Hilary, on video, saying she said it about Abe. The transcript posted by Adam shows she lied(I'm assuming he wasn't intending to expose a lie, but meh)

Time-Immemorial
You notice how she tried to tarnish the record of abe with her lies and corruption and people like sin and adam believe herlaughing out loud

Its2016
Lets for a moment suppose shes talking about Abe. Lets suppose she is saying that even the country disagrees with her private opinion, she may have to superimpose her private moral opinion onto the country, 13th amendment, for example. This could spell into a lot of things, ill name a few.

SuperObamacare closely related to socialised medicine she planned in the 90s
Super LGBT rights and transgender culture laws, bathroom laws, for eg
Dey gon take arr guns!
Exposing the vast right wing conspiracy that hates her
Shipping Donald Trump personally onto the moon for lulz
Giving herself a baby to feed on
Selling gold to ayy lmaos in exchange for super death rays to give to IS
Making Bernie Sanders great again.

Feel free to add a few.

Adam_PoE

Time-Immemorial
Yea, no, Abe never advocated for lying to the American people what she did is disgraceful;, so just stfu.

Also I like how this is the only defense you can mount, you skipped on all the emails cause you got nothing but shit and lint in your pocketlaughing out loud

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Surtur
But..you see that isn't how she explained what she said lol. She tried to say she was talking about Lincoln, she wasn't.

It's irrelevant if she was saying "be flexible". What is relevant is she tried to say "der I was talking about Lincoln" when no, she wasn't lol. The way she phrased it would imply there was nothing at all to what she said besides talking about Abe, which is an outright lie.

I wasnt referencing the Lincoln quote i was referencing the post i quoted.Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Hence why you are a brain dead voter. Clearly thats not what Abe said to do. That was her interpretation in her sick head, to be a liar.

I ❤ u too time

Time-Immemorial
Cut that shit out please

Sin I AM
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Cut that shit out please

Whatever do you mean my love?

Surtur

Time-Immemorial
This is the only defense they can mount is this single threadlaughing out loud

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Surtur
Why are you saying no? She was using Lincoln as an example. That is all.

She did not lie about Lincoln as you claimed. The email shows that and the article shows that.

Time-Immemorial
Adam still here fighting the good fightlaughing out loud

Her excuse was the lie.

Abe never said to lie to the American people. Or to make $250 million off selling the American people out.

Its2016
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The actual email from WikiLeaks:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/super_hottie_2/Clinton-Lincoln.jpg so now were praising wikileaks?

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Its2016
so now were praising wikileaks?

laughing out loudlaughing out loudlaughing out loud

Busted.

Robtard
All this "Clinton is the devil, she hates Honest Abe" aside, Lincoln was far from a saint as POTUS.

Time-Immemorial
She was in on Scalia's assassination tho. So yea.

Robtard
Well, add another one to the Clinton deadpool...

Time-Immemorial
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6008#searchresult

See Rob, you really dont care.

Robtard
Honestly, what exactly am I supposed to take from that?

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Its2016
so now were praising wikileaks?

Whose praising WikiLeaks? This entire thread is predicated on the leak of this email. This entire discussion is based on the thread starter's characterization of this email. I simply posted an image of the actual email so that people could see for themselves what it says. I am not making any claims about the veracity of WikiLeaks. But what I am doing is calling into question the thread starter's characterization of what the email actually says.

Time-Immemorial
I am calling into question your character for defending Hillary Clinton. Prove the email says Abe said to lie to people, I notice you are to much of a coward to try and defend anything else she has saidlaughing out loud

Its2016
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Whose praising WikiLeaks? This entire thread is predicated on the leak of this email. This entire discussion is based on the thread starter's characterization of this email. I simply posted an image of the actual email so that people could see for themselves what it says. I am not making any claims about the veracity of WikiLeaks. But what I am doing is calling into question the thread starter's characterization of what the email actually says. My problem is there is a lot of question with regard to these leaks. A lot. Nobody seems to care, nobody seems to even question them.

Robtard
Originally posted by Its2016
My problem is there is a lot of question with regard to these leaks. A lot. Nobody seems to care, nobody seems to even question them.

Likely two main reasons:

-The Republicans beat the words "Email" and "Clinton" into the ground long ago, everyone except the most staunch Hillary haters is sick of hearing about "emails", even though these emails are an entirely different issue

-These wikileaks are mostly ridiculous so far. Aliens. Vague "wet works", which as we learned from the internet could mean piss-play

Honestly, blame the Republicans in jading the country to email scandals concerning Clinton. Wikileaks is going to need a solid email from Clinton doing something criminal that is believable, to have any real affect on her campaign.

Time-Immemorial
Except that wont work Rob, the emails came from the campaign. What you just said is its the republicans fault for upholding the law. And not the Clintons fault for the law breaking and the content of the emails.

In other words blame everyone but the clintons.

Nice job

Robtard
I really wish you'd read my post and take the words as I say them, not what you think I'm saying

My comment had nothing to do with excusing Clinton, it was about the ineffectualness of the emails and reasons therein.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Robtard
Likely two main reasons:

-The Republicans beat the words "Email" and "Clinton" into the ground long ago, everyone except the most staunch Hillary haters is sick of hearing about "emails", even though these emails are an entirely different issue

-These wikileaks are mostly ridiculous so far. Aliens. Vague "wet works", which as we learned from the internet could mean piss-play

Honestly, blame the Republicans in jading the country to email scandals concerning Clinton. Wikileaks is going to need a solid email from Clinton doing something criminal that is believable, to have any real affect on her campaign.

in other words:

http://i.imgur.com/XzqN1vd.jpg

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard

Wikileaks is going to need a solid email from Clinton doing something criminal that is believable, to have any real affect on her campaign.

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https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6008#searchresult

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
I really wish you'd read my post and take the words as I say them, not what you think I'm saying

My comment has nothing to do with excuses Clinton, it was about the ineffectualness of the emails and reasons therein.

So you didn't say "blame the republicans."

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you didn't say "blame the republicans."

In regards to why the American people don't give a shit anymore when they hear the words "Clinton emails", regardless of what they are. /point

Or see Basher's picture, it's 100% correct

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
Likely two main reasons:

-The Republicans beat the words "Email" and "Clinton" into the ground long ago, everyone except the most staunch Hillary haters is sick of hearing about "emails", even though these emails are an entirely different issue

-These wikileaks are mostly ridiculous so far. Aliens. Vague "wet works", which as we learned from the internet could mean piss-play

Honestly, blame the Republicans in jading the country to email scandals concerning Clinton. Wikileaks is going to need a solid email from Clinton doing something criminal that is believable, to have any real affect on her campaign. Okay, Podesta is joking about wet works meaning pool parties on the vineyard.

Its possible he wanted to get pissed on by a prostitute in Marthas Vineyard. Its also feasible, they murdered someone, Scalia, to remove the second amendment, celebrating on marthas vineyard. Were speculating, but your constant brushing under the rug is disturbing to me.

Theres also the email where Podesta calls Latin American politicians as "needy latinos" because their campaigns suck. You dont care. Theres also Hillarys brother with ties to gold mining in Haiti. Theres rumours of Hillary funding Saud government, and she knows they fund IS. Its kind of a big deal, even to a Michael Moore fan who wanted to understand Bushes linked to Bin Ladens.

Over 5 years ago, there was a user on this forum who talked about the Clintons a lot. He had a spidey avatar. I wonder what hes doing now, and maybe i should have paid more attention to him. Im only scratching the surface as to whats possibly going on.

Time-Immemorial
Ok Rob, if there was an email saying "ok kill him" and a few days later that person wound up dead, you would say that is a coincidence, there is no proof she actually did it.

Its2016
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
in other words:

http://i.imgur.com/XzqN1vd.jpg its kinda like when hillary claimed the right was conspiring against her husbands dick, and then we found out she was wrong. Her credibility is kinda.....shit.

Robtard
Originally posted by Its2016
Okay, Podesta is joking about wet works meaning pool parties on the vineyard.

Its possible he wanted to get pissed on by a prostitute in Marthas Vineyard. Its also feasible, they murdered someone, Scalia, to remove the second amendment, celebrating on marthas vineyard. Were speculating, but your constant brushing under the rug is disturbing to me.

Theres also the email where Podesta calls Latin American politicians as "needy latinos" because their campaigns suck. You dont care. Theres also Hillarys brother with ties to gold mining in Haiti. Theres rumours of Hillary funding Saud government, and she knows they fund IS. Its kind of a big deal, even to a Michael Moore fan who wanted to understand Bushes linked to Bin Ladens.

Over 5 years ago, there was a user on this forum who talked about the Clintons a lot. He had a spidey avatar. I wonder what hes doing now, and maybe i should have paid more attention to him. Im only scratching the surface as to whats possibly going on.

Boyo, I was just giving you a reasonable reason why these wikileaks isn't skyrocketing and explaining to you that at this point, they're going to need an email from Clinton directly that is truly damning to have any affect on her campaign. This has nothing to do with loving or hating Clinton, it's just reality.

Mr. Parker? That guy was hilariously insane.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ok Rob, if there was an email saying "ok kill him" and a few days later that person wound up dead, you would say that is a coincidence, there is no proof she actually did it.

No, TI. That would be a reasonable conclusion and I'd support you 100%.

Someone saying "wet works" and then going "that means they murdered Scalia" isn't.

Time-Immemorial
It actually is skyrocketing its all over the web.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
No, TI. That would be a reasonable conclusion and I'd support you 100%.

Someone saying "wet works" and then going 'That means they murdered Scalia" isn't.

So an email containing code words about an assassination and saying time to double down and buckle up, then a day later Scalia died from mysterious causes with no autopsy doesn't stink to high heaven?

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It actually is skyrocketing its all over the web.

Do you think what's been released so far will have any meaningful affect on her campaign?

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So an email containing code words about an assassination and saying time to double down and buckle up, then a day later Scalia died from mysterious causes with no autopsy doesn't stink to high heaven?

Because the man was 79, out of shape and had previous medical problems. IIRC, the family were the ones that did not want an autopsy, as to not desecrate the body.

So no, it doesn't scream conspiracy to me, honestly.

Time-Immemorial
Absolutely, Trump will lose the election to voter fraud, they already have video of republican ballots being torn up; by December, they will have sorted out the fraud and he will be the next president.

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
Boyo, I was just giving you a reasonable reason why these wikileaks isn't skyrocketing and explaining to you that at this point, they're going to need an email from Clinton directly that is truly damning to have any affect on her campaign. This has nothing to do with loving or hating Clinton, it's just reality.

Mr. Parker? That guy was hilariously insane. I know. Insanity is my thing now.

Also wondering if what you say may come out. I dont think Hillary is that dumb tho.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Absolutely, Trump will lose the election to voter fraud, they already have video of republican ballots being torn up. By December, they will have sorted out the fraud and he will be the next president.

Alright, cool. I don't think so, but kudos if you end up being correct.

Time-Immemorial
So you think the American people are idiots and going to elect Hllary after her horrible record.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you think the American people are idiots and going to elect Hllary after her horrible record.

I do think Clinton will be the 45th POTUS, unless something drastic happens in the next few weeks.

Confused, you said Trump would lose and then win, so that implies that Clinton would be elected.

Time-Immemorial
That is not what I said, nice try. I said through voter fraud she will win, temporarily.

Robtard
"Nice try", you really need to stop making it out that I'm trying to play you in some manner. I opened up that sentence with "confused", meaning I had confusion in what you were saying.

Time-Immemorial
Ok, well the election can go two ways, Trump in a landslide and he takes it right out.

Or its very close, and voter fraud on the left nets him the win.

Either way, I think he will be the next president.

Time to make America great again, cause right now it clearly isn't great.

Robtard
I used to think that while Clinton would win, it would be a lot closer than people thought. ie no landslides. Now I'm starting to think Clinton will win by not maybe a landslide, but a rather large number, where she'll take 35+ states and many states with the larger electoral votes.

This is of course subject to change barring any new bombshells either way in the next few weeks.

Its2016
Im pretty content in thinking itll be 300-240 for both candidates. The swing states are rather big this year.

If Trump loses, I predict a recount demanded and whatever tinfoil hat explanation other than hes a sore loser like actual voter fraud the media will refuse to tell us.

But whatever. Pass the popcorn.

Robtard
Funny how you imply that if Clinton loses, she'll accept the lose with dignity and not scream "cheated!" like Trump is expected to, since he's already made the claim that he can only lose due to fraud.

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
Funny how you imply that if Clinton loses, she'll accept the lose with dignity and not scream "cheated!" like Trump is expected to, since he's already made the claim that he can only lose due to fraud. Look, Clinton is established politician, Trump barely has his own party on his side. A Trump win would basically mean almost the whole country voting for him and even then, it will be close. You have Republicans backing Hillary. Its hers to lose. Voter fraud is heavily in her favour. Trump is the Gore in this situation.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Funny how you imply that if Clinton loses, she'll accept the lose with dignity and not scream "cheated!" like Trump is expected to, since he's already made the claim that he can only lose due to fraud.

She cant claim "cheated" because she has been cheating the entire time and you know this, unless you want to deny it. Even when it was revealed.

Nephthys
TBH wouldn't Hillary murdering Scalia just be another reason to vote for her? Wasn't he a huge piece of shit?

Robtard
Dudes, taking the "Trump can only lose due to fraud" stance seems a bit, I dunno, sore loser-y? Whiny? Don't mean that to be insulting, just how it comes off.

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
Dudes, taking the "Trump can only lose due to fraud" stance seems a bit, I dunno, sore loser-y? Whiny? Don't mean that to be insulting, just how it comes off. Voter fraud is pretty much a thing. Call it sore loser if you will, I imagine Trump will be portrayed as such if he is and probably pandering to the voter fraud believers in America. But it is a thing, and we know Hillary is the big money candidate. The same people who helped Bush win 2000. If Jeb was the candidate, voter fraud would have been mentioned. No doubt.

If youre asserting voter fraud could be in Trumps favour, i understand that. I just dont think the narrative is falling in that direction.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Its2016
Voter fraud is pretty much a thing. Call it sore loser if you will, I imagine Trump will be portrayed as such if he is and probably pandering to the voter fraud believers in America. But it is a thing, and we know Hillary is the big money candidate. The same people who helped Bush win 2000. If Jeb was the candidate, voter fraud would have been mentioned. No doubt.

If youre asserting voter fraud could be in Trumps favour, i understand that. I just dont think the narrative is falling in that direction.

so...being rich makes you a suspect of voter fraud. (unless trump)

Robtard
Originally posted by Its2016
Voter fraud is pretty much a thing. Call it sore loser if you will, I imagine Trump will be portrayed as such if he is and probably pandering to the voter fraud believers in America. But it is a thing, and we know Hillary is the big money candidate. The same people who helped Bush win 2000. If Jeb was the candidate, voter fraud would have been mentioned. No doubt.

If youre asserting voter fraud could be in Trumps favour, i understand that. I just dont think the narrative is falling in that direction.

Sure, it's a thing. 2000 election showed us that, but I don't recall Gore ever crying preemptively about losing to fraud, like Trump has.

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, it's a thing. 2000 election showed us that, but I don't recall Gore ever crying preemptively about losing to fraud, like Trump has. I dont think Trump is. He could. Its a good card to play.

Gore gave up as soon as he could. Even as president of the senate. And quickly die away. Kerry gave up quickly too iirc. I just think if its possible, it only makes sense that Trump will play this card.

Robtard
Originally posted by Its2016
I dont think Trump is. He could. Its a good card to play.

Gore gave up as soon as he could. Even as president of the senate. And quickly die away. Kerry gave up quickly too iirc. I just think if its possible, it only makes sense that Trump will play this card.

Trump's already claimed that the election is "rigged" and that if he loses, it will be due to fraud/being cheated. So he's preemptively played the card. Card = played

The real question, will he push it for days, weeks or months, or will he just cry that he was cheated and rage-quit the same day.

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's already claimed that the election is "rigged" and that if he loses, it will be due to fraud/being cheated. So he's preemptively played the card. Card = played

The real question, will he push it for days, weeks or months, or will he just cry that he was cheated and rage-quit the same day. I honestly do not know.

There is a theory that Trump has access to a working time machine from Tesla and this is planned ahead of time. The voter fraud will be found in December, Trump will be president merely to get Pence the presidency. Its a weird rabbit hole. Im not surprised Trump has gone down this road, but I imagine the Obama elections were also skewed at the very least to pretend the system is no longer corrupt. Theres also rumours Hillary's primaries were rigged. I imagine Trump will push this as much as he can, especially after the election.

I am not fully convinced myself. I just want to make a prediction.

Nephthys
Originally posted by Its2016
There is a theory that Trump has access to a working time machine from Tesla and this is planned ahead of time.

no expression

Its2016
Trumps uncle accessed Tesla's assets. Google it.

Robtard
I think the " no expression " face comes from the 'has a time machine' part.

Nephthys
Maybe Trump was John Titor. It all makes sense now....

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's already claimed that the election is "rigged" and that if he loses, it will be due to fraud/being cheated. So he's preemptively played the card. Card = played

The real question, will he push it for days, weeks or months, or will he just cry that he was cheated and rage-quit the same day.

So you dispute it's rigged against him, DNC AND PODESTA emails prove it is.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, it's a thing. 2000 election showed us that, but I don't recall Gore ever crying preemptively about losing to fraud, like Trump has.

Interesting, the Biggest recount in history so far fell on the Al Gore side, and you are throwing stones when the primary was already rigged against Sanders and the General has been rigged against trump.

Its2016
Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe Trump was John Titor. It all makes sense now.... Its part of the theory.

Time-Immemorial
A 2009 investigation suggested that Titor was likely the creation of Larry Haber, a Florida entertainment lawyer, along with his brother John, a computer scientist.
Wiki

Nephthys
Originally posted by Its2016
Its part of the theory. laughing

Its2016
Look, theres a lot of crazy theories. But Ive found parallels.

Trump has access to Teslas time machine, he is John Titor and manipulates time to predict what to say to win primaries. He set up Lewinsky scandal, he built the pyramids, created the meme of kek himself, Pence is a clone from the future, he started the John Titor thing himself and tried to prevent 911. But the timeline keeps changing whenever he tries to change the future. UFOs and ETs are also time travellors who like gold. I ask why Hillarys brother is currently mining for gold in Haiti, I ask why Podesta has emails about ETI, clones, etc. Its just, kinda weird. Also, Tim Kaine is gay. His wife is a Mike Pence clone from the future.

Anyway, Im not composed enough to actually make this believable to anyone. But its kinda crazy, to say the least. Mwybe im in the wrong thread.

Nephthys
Oh no, please continue. This is all fascinating I assure you.

Its2016
Dont insult my crazy ramblings. I dont even believe this myself. But, its meme magic.

Speaking of, theres more to Pepe than you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNriNoWOtXA

This is a song with album cover from the 1980s. I dont know the connection, but its again, weird.

BackFire
Originally posted by Its2016
hillarys integrity is being exposed. Shes literally saying one thing doing another.

Breaking News: BOMBSHELL leaks expose damning truth that Hillary Clinton is a politician. Can she survive this revelation?

Its2016
Originally posted by BackFire
Breaking News: BOMBSHELL leaks expose damning truth that Hillary Clinton is a politician. Can she survive this revelation? most likely. Politicians get away with lots of shit.

Surtur
Originally posted by Its2016
most likely. Politicians get away with lots of shit.

You just saw one of the reasons why. Shadiness has become synonymous with politics. So for most of this stuff people just shrug it off with a "that's politics" kind of excuse.

Its2016
Im confused how people accept it so willingly.

Surtur
In some ways it isn't their fault because we are definitely raised on that type of belief. We expect politicians to essentially behave like sleazy car salesmen.

Its2016
Right, but I believe America has a lot of corruption ever since the internet came to be to have an absolute revelation of corruption. Youre well known to have scandals, as a country.

Time-Immemorial
So is the only thread the liverals have been able to mount a defense by smearing Abe Lincoln?

I still have not seen one liberal come forward and say the democrats are more corrupt then ever before:

Surtur
Originally posted by Its2016
Right, but I believe America has a lot of corruption ever since the internet came to be to have an absolute revelation of corruption. Youre well known to have scandals, as a country.

This past year has actually boosted my opinion of America. I used to think basically we had the most ignorant country on the planet, but the past year or so has shown me that this country isn't anymore ignorant than any of the major countries out there.

We still do have corruption though and we had it long before the internet. It was just easier to hide before the internet.

Its2016
Corruption is the system. Sad reality, i guess.

Time-Immemorial
Not a single person on the left has come forward to admit the system is corrupt. On the contrary, all they have come out to do is say how bad Trump is, and how great Hillary is going to make americalaughing out loud

Nephthys
Cry harder plz.

Time-Immemorial
Im not crying, Im laughing at you're stupidlylaughing out loud

Its2016
Hillary Clinton as SOS created crises in Syria and Libya whilst pulling out of Iraq. She has business deals with Saudi Arabia who the Bushes had ties with inc. Bin Laden, Al Qaeda etc. They also have ties with IS and the Clintons have ties with the Bushes as well.

But this is politics now. Trump is a part of rape culture, radical islam is not. Just.

Robtard
How long are you cats going to pull that BS and keep blaming the Democrats for "pulling out of Iraq". Answer: Forever

Time-Immemorial
How long are you going to deny Hillarys corruption? Answer: forever

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
How long are you cats going to pull that BS and keep blaming the Democrats for "pulling out of Iraq". Answer: Forever

Your line about well Bush set the withdraw date is as poltifact would say. HALF TRUE.

Obama could have over written the withdraw and done it in a different way.

Its2016
Originally posted by Robtard
How long are you cats going to pull that BS and keep blaming the Democrats for "pulling out of Iraq". Answer: Forever As long as Isis exists.

Time-Immemorial
Remember ISIS isn't his fault, nothing islaughing out loud

Obama will get a pass for a lifetime. But when Hillary fails, who will she blame?

DUR TRUMP?

You notice how no one here really cares about ISIS?

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