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Round 1 - Standard gear. They start at opposite ends of a cluttered, old warehouse.
Round 2 - Regular clothes. No weapons. Pure H2H in the middle of the street.

- Both opponents are operating at their peak.
- PIS/CIS is off.
- Win via KO/Death.

Who takes it?

Ollie, they amped him heavily.

Oliver. At this point, all Batman ever took out were a bunch of goons and he did it with no small help from his bullet proof armor.

Oliver's feats are way better than that.

Batman, he hits harder, moves faster and fights much more brutally than Arrow does.

Standard gear means that all of Olivers projectiles do squat to Batman and just h2h sees Ollie get KOed big time

Originally posted by relentless1
Batman, he hits harder, moves faster and fights much more brutally than Arrow does.

Standard gear means that all of Olivers projectiles do squat to Batman and just h2h sees Ollie get KOed big time

While I agree with hits harder, I'd have to disagree with moves faster. Batman got hit multiple times in his fight with goons. Arrow rarely gets hit when he fights thugs. Batman would have been seriously injured, might have been dead, if it wasn't for his armor.

And Ollie isn't exactly a lightweight in the hitting department either. In a pure h2h fight Batman goes down solidly. He may hit hard but that doesn't matter if you can't hit your opponent.

With standard gear Batman will have the benefit of his bulletproof costume but Oliver will now have all his trick arrows. So it's still a win for Ollie but it will be harder fought.

Originally posted by relentless1
Batman, he hits harder, moves faster and fights much more brutally than Arrow does.

Standard gear means that all of Olivers projectiles do squat to Batman and just h2h sees Ollie get KOed big time

IOW, you've never seen Arrow.

DCEU Batman is still light on feats.

Originally posted by relentless1
Batman, he hits harder, moves faster and fights much more brutally than Arrow does.

Not so sure all that holds so true. Only time Bats has ever looked faster was during Arrow S4's really awful fight choreography. But, as seen here, they've stepped it up to its former levels:

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To give you some reference, he is fighting Lonnie Machin aka Anarky. And it says a lot that he was handling him so comfortably, considering Machin has shown himself to be an extremely dangerous and skilled fighter. Oliver had a nightmare every time he fought him in S4, and Machin even held his own against both Thea and Oliver more than once. So it shows that Ollie is back on his A game here.

Batfleck loses

Batman dodged almost point blank shotgun fire while scrambling across a ceiling/wall in an awkward position, thats pretty quick. I don't recall Oliver having any feats like that.

Also his combat speed is commendable; he took on four guys that were closed in on him with only a slash across his neck to show for it, he dismantled those 4 guys while nullifying their superior numbers through his combat speed and technique.

Originally posted by relentless1
Batman dodged almost point blank shotgun fire while scrambling across a ceiling/wall in an awkward position, thats pretty quick. I don't recall Oliver having any feats like that.

Also his combat speed is commendable; he took on four guys that were closed in on him with only a slash across his neck to show for it, he dismantled those 4 guys while nullifying their superior numbers through his combat speed and technique.

Batman gets hit multiple times by thugs. That goes to show that in a h2h situation he's not really that fast or skilled.

I like how people seem to forget that minutes before he entered that warehouse, Bruce was getting thrown around by mother****ing Superman. Does anyone really think he'd be at his best?

Standard gear bats wins. Riybd two ollie wins.