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Nihilus is more powerful, but I imagine that thanks to Krayt's Dark Transfer, any damage that Nihilus inflicts with Lightning or telekinesis isn't going to get him very far. It all depends on how useful his Drain is here, and how much of Krayt's Force connection he can actually drain.

Do you think Nihilus is more powerful than novel Vitiate?

Well, according to TOR: E or the TOR codex entry (even if they're in-universe), no.

Although he's probably extremely close. Definitely on the same level.

Does that entry ever say that novel Vitiate is stronger? I know Nyriss claimed that Nathema made him more powerful than any sith before him, but she would have no way of knowing that, and Nihilus came after (she probably didn't know about him at all).

Ah, you're right. They both refer to SWTOR Vitiate. And he had three hundred years of growth between the novel and the game where he explored the "uncharted, most sinister depths of the dark side".

Nihilus being more powerful than novel Vitiate is entirely possible, then, and looks to be that way based on showings.

And no, Nyriss wouldn't have known about Vitiate. At the time that she told Scourge about Nathema, Nihilus had yet to become the Lord of Hunger, anyway.

It's only the case if you buy that Revan > Nihilus because Meetra said so, which I know you don't.

What's the case? I said Nihilus' showings look to put him above Vitiate as of the novel.

Nihilus is below the ancients, per the man who wrote and created the character.

Krayt murks.

Who said Avellone ranks the Ancients where we do?

Originally posted by SunRazer
What's the case? I said Nihilus' showings look to put him above Vitiate as of the novel.

I meant it's only the case that Vitiate would be clearly above Nihilus by the novel if you buy that Revan was more powerful than Nihilus.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Nihilus is below the ancients, per the man who wrote and created the character.

Krayt murks.

Those were imaginary ancients with abilities they ended up not having.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I meant it's only the case that Vitiate would be clearly above Nihilus by the novel if you buy that Revan was more powerful than Nihilus.

As I said in that thread, more powerful than BioWare Nihilus. Not KotOR II Nihilus. The Exile suggests the opposite in KotOR II.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Those were imaginary ancients with abilities they ended up not having.

Oh, really? Was this confirmed, or insinuated?

KotOR II establishes the Ancients as beings who can do worse than destroying worlds, and can consume any living thing, lol. Perhaps you should consider ranking the Ancients higher, then.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Oh, really? Was this confirmed, or insinuated?

Well he claimed that they could shape galaxies and sh*t and were called the "True Sith".

I forgot - Ludo Kressh in KotOR II is suggested to be insanely powerful. It's more than a millennium after his death, yet his Tomb is so powerful that the Exile's companions literally can't enter it, despite them going through Freedon Nadd's tomb and potentially absorbing the remnants of Nadd's power if it's the DS version.

Surely that isn't comparable to the Ludo Kressh that we all know and mock.

Well that depends how powerful is Darth Nihilus's raw force abilites.
Which tier does his power go to?
Examples such as Lightning/TK ect.

Nihilus.

Krayt.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Nihilus is more powerful, but I imagine that thanks to Krayt's Dark Transfer, any damage that Nihilus inflicts with Lightning or telekinesis isn't going to get him very far. It all depends on how useful his Drain is here, and how much of Krayt's Force connection he can actually drain.

Nihilus is more powerful. At least in a feat-for-feat comparison.

Nihilus is an aberration. No one can take him barring maybe Vitiate and Exar Kun, who have themselves used Drain on a massive scale.

Originally posted by Unbowed
Nihilus is an aberration. No one can take him barring maybe Vitiate and Exar Kun, who have themselves used Drain on a massive scale.
LMFAO
Sidious/Luke/Yoda > Kun/Nihilius/Vitate

Nihilus may win a weightlifting contest, but not an actual battle.