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Vitiate.

Vitiate dominates his mind. Luke ignorance of arcane Sith technique is gonna cost him.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Vitiate dominates his mind. Luke ignorance of arcane Sith technique is gonna cost him.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Vitiate dominates his mind. Luke ignorance of arcane Sith technique is gonna cost him. Not easily, tho; it'll be slower (and less effective) than Sidious' "you haev no name" brainwashing.

I can see Luke pulling it off, tbh. Though prolly Vitiate.

Vitiate.

Vitiate.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Not easily, tho; it'll be slower (and less effective) than Sidious' "you haev no name" brainwashing.

That was on a dark side nexus, on a weaker Luke, and by a vastly more powerful foe.

Valkorion couldn't dominate the Outlander lol.

That's a plus for the Outlander, unless we have reason to believe otherwise.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Valkorion couldn't dominate the Outlander lol.

Valkoriate has never dominated someone of DE Luke's caliber and it looks like he never will.

In the novel, we learn from Revan that having experience/knowledge on Vitiate's TP is very essential if one is to resist it. The fact that even Meetra and Scourge can resist his TP due to Revan's knowledge on Vitiate's TP supports this notion. As for HoTlander, he was TPed by Vitiate once (Act 2), and shortly after he was able to resist Vitty's attack (Act 3). The fact that he can resist him after becoming more powerful isn't really surprising.

Luke doesn't have these advantages here.

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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
That's a plus for the Outlander, unless we have reason to believe otherwise.

When has Vitiate ever dominated someone on DE Luke's level? It was implied that he was only able to dominate mando wars Revan and Malak (on a dark side nexus) because they were already conflicted.

Originally posted by Sinious
In the novel, we learn from Revan that having experience/knowledge on Vitiate's TP is very essential if one is to resist it. The fact that even Meetra and Scourge can resist his TP due to Revan's knowledge on Vitiate's TP supports this notion. As for HoTlander, he was TPed by Vitiate once (Act 2), and shortly after he was able to resist Vitty's attack (Act 3). The fact that he can resist him after becoming more powerful isn't really surprising.

Luke doesn't have these advantages here.

The fact that prior exposure helps doesn't make it necessary. His TP obviously isn't infinitely powerful given that powerful enough characters can break out of it after they leave him (so presumably an even more powerful one could break it from the start).

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The fact that prior exposure helps doesn't make it necessary. His TP obviously isn't infinitely powerful given that powerful enough characters can break out of it after they leave him (so presumably an even more powerful one could break it from the start).

And nowhere does the novel say as much.

The HoT is also never said to have learned any special technique either to my knowledge, and instead in KotFE Valkorion concedes that he is simply too powerful. If the fact that he couldn't TP him while unconcious can be verified then that pretty much debunks the idea that some special hand sign is necessary to counteract this.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The fact that prior exposure helps doesn't make it necessary. His TP obviously isn't infinitely powerful given that powerful enough characters can break out of it after they leave him (so presumably an even more powerful one could break it from the start). And I obviously didn't say he can TP anyone he encounters.

So when has he TP'd someone on Luke's level? All the evidence suggests that Valkorion can't, not even when the target is being frozen in carbonite.

Vitiate couldn't TP Lana Beniko either.

Vitiate isn't TP'ing Luke. The guy was partially retaining his individuality even under the influence of Palpatine, someone who's >>>>> novel Vitiate in TP. Luke stomps.

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