Rock Lee & Guy Sensei(Anime) vs Superman(MOS)

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golem370
Rock & Guy have prep on Clark's powers and no holding back Superman can only use strength speed and flight. The fight takes place in a city no bystanders around.

Jmanghan
Superman crushes both their throats at the same time.

NemeBro
Guy using the Eight Gates would solo.

Decter
Lee and Gai sense tale this

Surtur
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Superman crushes both their throats at the same time.

How does Superman even land a single hit?

dvampire
Can superman just do this:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyk7rXyQYuY

EASY win!

dvampire
SPEED...kills!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4UdhAXwPQ

What's this thread for agassjign?

Surtur
Originally posted by dvampire
Can superman just do this:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyk7rXyQYuY

EASY win!

All Superman does in that clip is..fail to hurt Darkseid and then fail to dodge his attack.

I'm very confused as to why this clip shows it's an easy win. Especially since this isn't even MOS Superman in the clip.

dvampire
Originally posted by Surtur
All Superman does in that clip is..fail to hurt Darkseid and then fail to dodge his attack.

I'm very confused as to why this clip shows it's an easy win. Especially since this isn't even MOS Superman in the clip.

It means superman wins since darkseid is above his competition you idiot. Can they slow asses keep UP? Hell to the know. You know with your average thinking ass. It means you're insane if you side with inferior characters. Can they dodge? Sorry kids.

dvampire
Test darkseids strength, and then the results show in the second clip I showed you.

Surtur
I think it's time to take your ADD medication.

dvampire
You're ass is simple. But still a 2. 2-0. There's is no possibility. Now can you motion away? Or are you still trying goku slow ass? Superman is say CAN you face black? As in being blind. Continue believing in false hope...that's all you're good 4. You're 3! And you're not that fast 8".

carver9
Guy solos.

dvampire
Only in your imagiNATION!

Surtur
Originally posted by dvampire
You're ass is simple. But still a 2. 2-0. There's is no possibility. Now can you motion away? Or are you still trying goku slow ass? Superman is say CAN you face black? As in being blind. Continue believing in false hope...that's all you're good 4. You're 3! And you're not that fast 8".

Wha...?

cdtm
Guy and Superman solo DBZ.

dvampire
Want to compare speed of guy and goku dumbass? Don't let the illistration FOOL you (obviously). Ready for some more dribble sribble scrabble? That's all you get from dbz. What do you see in naruto? Same thing but they reveal it to you better and often. Goku vs raditz, remember when he ran from the kamehameha wave? Wasn't sound speed (more like at the speed of a car, hint, he punched a small car at the beginning.thats his speed). Still think there godly fast? Then show visible evidence?? You have none but what the a CREATOR is showing you (like goku pushing s mountain because he has no strength feats to show but db tards fear superman so they upgrade him to fit there needs. It means you're a ho.)

cdtm
Originally posted by Surtur
Wha...?

He's a sock. Only things he does is hound DB threads, and makes the worst possible arguments.

So, calling sock/strawman account.

Surtur
Superman from the movies hasn't even shown that great of movement speed. The person with the best speed feats that he has fought is..Faora. Who is hilariously slower than Rock Lee.

Also keep in mind that unlike the Flash, Rock Lee and Guy have actual super strength in addition to their speed.

Trocity
Originally posted by dvampire
Want to compare speed of guy and goku dumbass? Don't let the illistration FOOL you (obviously). Ready for some more dribble sribble scrabble? That's all you get from dbz. What do you see in naruto? Same thing but they reveal it to you better and often. Goku vs raditz, remember when he ran from the kamehameha wave? Wasn't sound speed (more like at the speed of a car, hint, he punched a small car at the beginning.thats his speed). Still think there godly fast? Then show visible evidence?? You have none but what the a CREATOR is showing you (like goku pushing s mountain because he has no strength feats to show but db tards fear superman so they upgrade him to fit there needs. It means you're a ho.)

idiot i would crush your skull. BELIEVE IT! (that is naruto quote retard).

dvampire
I know you, Andre doesn't but I do. You're a zero forever. Happy? God. Jehovah. Superman wins with ease retard. FEAR. Who would want YOU?

Surtur
Originally posted by dvampire
I know you, Andre doesn't but I do. You're a zero forever. Happy? God. Jehovah. Superman wins with ease retard. FEAR. Who would want YOU?

Did you have a stroke immediately prior to posting this?

dvampire
I win aaasass allllllllll the time. I see you while you see Andre while I KEEP you out of existence. Still fill tough?

Superman wins. That's separation of power. I not my human form!

Surtur
This is what happens when a pregnant woman uses bath salts.

dvampire
Superman smecks them to death.

SSJGGogeta
Um... Anyway.

MOS Superman's strength is pretty ridiculous, as of the Batman V Superman movie.

However, he hasn't seen the level of strength in an opponent that 8th Gate Gai operates with. He was able to completely vaporize half of Jyuubidara's body, and break his bones with just his punches. Jyuubidara was literally able to tank continent busting attacks prior to this, without so much as a scratch. Just the air from the shock waves of Gai's punches launched him more than a mile into the Earth's crust.

This is a fight that I see Gai taking, but only after he goes 8th gate, and even then, Superman should be able to survive until Gai uses Night Moth.

dvampire
Superman break there necks! That's not even the quickest way in killing them!

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by dvampire
Superman break there necks! That's not even the quickest way in killing them!

Any insult that could be conjured up by a human mind, at this point, is simply not potent enough to describe your level of sheer idiocy.

RealityWarper
Slowperman is gostomped.

He doesn't have the combat speed to touch Rock Lee or Guy even once...

RealityWarper
Originally posted by carver9
Guy solos.

Or Rock Lee solos.

dvampire
Superman makes a crater with his SUPERSPEEED! They suffocate!

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Slowperman is gostomped.

He doesn't have the combat speed to touch Rock Lee or Guy even once...

He doesn't need that level of combat speed though. He can simply fly around and hit them while moving at super speed, like he did with Zod, Nam'Ek, and Faora. Not to mention that his durability is well above the striking power of either Gai or Lee, until Gai hits the 8th gate.

Meaning that this is a fight in which Gai loses his life, and still doesn't take the win easily.

RealityWarper
Poor Dvampire...

His trolling makes me laugh instead of making me angry...

He isn't even good at trolling on comicvine...

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/jayman1999/

RealityWarper
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
He doesn't need that level of combat speed though. He can simply fly around and hit them while moving at super speed, like he did with Zod, Nam'Ek, and Faora. Not to mention that his durability is well above the striking power of either Gai or Lee, until Gai hits the 8th gate.

Meaning that this is a fight in which Gai loses his life, and still doesn't take the win easily.

I'm not sure you have read a lot of Superman comics.

Superman flying speed which he uses to charge people is often an opener and a way for him to engage his opponents but rarely an ender of the fights.

Moreover Superman struggle to touch people far slower in combat than the two ninjas he is facing here...

Well, he can't even touch Shadowdragon when he has engaged him in a hand-to-hand distance as the street-leveler dances around him and unfortunately for Superman's supporters that's the case in every comics since 75 years.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I'm not sure you have read a lot of Superman comics.

Superman flying speed which he uses to charge people is often an opener and a way for him to engage his opponents but rarely an ender of the fights.

Moreover Superman struggle to touch people far slower in combat than the two ninjas he is facing here...

Well, he can't even touch Shadowdragon when he has engaged him in a hand-to-hand distance as the street-leveler dances around him and unfortunately for Superman's supporters that's the case in every comics since 75 years.

I'm not sure you read the op. thumb down

RealityWarper
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I'm not sure you read the op. thumb down

"Rock & Guy have prep on Clark's powers and no holding back Superman can only use strength speed and flight. The fight takes place in a city no bystanders around."

Superman is doomed.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by RealityWarper
"Rock & Guy have prep on Clark's powers and no holding back Superman can only use strength speed and flight. The fight takes place in a city no bystanders around."

Superman is doomed.

Have you failed to realize that this is Man of Steel Superman? As in, the DC movie universe version?

Not to mention that the average comic book Superman would have no difficulty dispatching even 8th gate Gai, whatsoever.

For the purpose of the thread, Gai wins with 8th gate, but Golden age, Silver age, All-star, Superman Prime, New 52, and altogether the majority of Superman incarnations, would absolutely shit on Gai. In fact, they'd on average be strong enough to tank every of the strongest attacks in Naruto at once, before proceeding to vaporize the planet with heat vision.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta Have you failed to realize that this is Man of Steel Superman? As in, the DC movie universe version?

I didn't.

There is no differences between the Man of Steel Superman and the one from the comic books contrary to what most people believe.






Based on ?

Superman can't deal with slow bricks and get wrecked in every comic books by characters whom can't hold a candle to Gai or Rock Lee on a daily basis.



Again, based on what ?

Those Supermen clearly doesn't have the feats to deal with them.

Maybe Silver Age Superman only thanks to his durability feats and even with that, that's not sure.



That's clearly not the case... If you have read the comics of course.

Superman is way too overestimated in combat in all of those battle forums without exception.

carver9
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Have you failed to realize that this is Man of Steel Superman? As in, the DC movie universe version?

Not to mention that the average comic book Superman would have no difficulty dispatching even 8th gate Gai, whatsoever.

For the purpose of the thread, Gai wins with 8th gate, but Golden age, Silver age, All-star, Superman Prime, New 52, and altogether the majority of Superman incarnations, would absolutely shit on Gai. In fact, they'd on average be strong enough to tank every of the strongest attacks in Naruto at once, before proceeding to vaporize the planet with heat vision.

Lies

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I didn't.

There is no differences between the Man of Steel Superman and the one from the comic books contrary to what most people believe.






Based on ?

Superman can't deal with slow bricks and get wrecked in every comic books by characters whom can't hold a candle to Gai or Rock Lee on a daily basis.



Again, based on what ?

Those Supermen clearly doesn't have the feats to deal with them.

Maybe Silver Age Superman only thanks to his durability feats and even with that, that's not sure.



That's clearly not the case... If you have read the comics of course.

Superman is way too overestimated in combat in all of those battle forums without exception.

1. You've obviously never read a Superman comic.

2. Superman in most versions operates on planetary+ levels.

3. PC Superman literally flew across the universe in one second, and destroyed a solar system with a sneeze.

http://i.imgur.com/3zd79bO.jpg

He literally pulled every planet in a galaxy, on a chain, into a new galaxy to save them all. This was when he was still just Superboy, btw.

http://i.imgur.com/xFBCOaA.jpg

He tanked the equivalent of 50 supernova's with little difficulty, in a much weaker version than PC.

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11118/111184648/4137392-6035907963-33290.jpg

He's also increased his reaction and movement speed to levels similar to those of the Flash, aka, lightspeed+

http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111130781/4148290-3829142630-41107.jpg

4. Yeah, don't go spouting off like I haven't read the comics, when you don't know the first thing about ANY versions of Superman. You literally compared PC Superman to MOS Superman. That is like one of the dumbest things I've seen on this website, from posters other than dvampire or cdtm. thumb down

RealityWarper
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
1. You've obviously never read a Superman comic.

I have read nearly all of them. Thanks for your concern.




I really don't care about the fan-fictions you are about to puke. Only combat feats matters.



Nobody care about Pre-Crisis Superman.

I am obviously comparing the MOS Superman from the show to the current Superman

Thanks for avoiding to post Pre-Crisis Superman's combat feats which sucks and would prove him being ass-kicked everytime.



Nobody cares.



He didn't, the energy is dispersed around multiples parsecs.

In order to tank the equivalent of 50 supernovas, Superman should have received all the energy in a single point...

Moreover now you are using POST-Crisis Superman... Whom get wrecked on a daily basis by characters slower and weaker than Guy and Rock.



That scan is, like usual, not understood by illiterate people.

The only thing that Superman is doing here is increasing his f****** perceptions to talk at super-speed with the Flash...

That's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand which is about three characters fighting.

Superman's feats proves him too slow and unskilled to deal with Guy & Rock in an hand-to-hand situation.



No.

You've just pulled another strawman out of your ass, literally, with a little Ad Hominem flavor of the month.

Next time you try to make an answer:






Try to understand which Superman I am talking about
Try to post COMBAT FEATS for the character you are trying to poorly defend.
Try to avoid using strawman, obvious to anyone reading your poor arguments.

RealityWarper
Moreover Clark wasn't touched by the ball of radiation in expansion in your third scan aka he tanked nothing.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have read nearly all of them. Thanks for your concern.




I really don't care about the fan-fictions you are about to puke. Only combat feats matters.



Nobody care about Pre-Crisis Superman.

I am obviously comparing the MOS Superman from the show to the current Superman

Thanks for avoiding to post Pre-Crisis Superman's combat feats which sucks and would prove him being ass-kicked everytime.



Nobody cares.



He didn't, the energy is dispersed around multiples parsecs.

In order to tank the equivalent of 50 supernovas, Superman should have received all the energy in a single point...

Moreover now you are using POST-Crisis Superman... Whom get wrecked on a daily basis by characters slower and weaker than Guy and Rock.



That scan is, like usual, not understood by illiterate people.

The only thing that Superman is doing here is increasing his f****** perceptions to talk at super-speed with the Flash...

That's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand which is about three characters fighting.

Superman's feats proves him too slow and unskilled to deal with Guy & Rock in an hand-to-hand situation.



No.

You've just pulled another strawman out of your ass, literally, with a little Ad Hominem flavor of the month.

Next time you try to make an answer:






Try to understand which Superman I am talking about
Try to post COMBAT FEATS for the character you are trying to poorly defend.
Try to avoid using strawman, obvious to anyone reading your poor arguments.


1. Your entire post is a non-sensible plethora of denial and diarrhea of the mouth.

2. If Superman can tow a chain with a galaxy on it, he can yank off Gai's arm in 8th gate, easier than you can rip the wing off a fly.

3. Current Superman is not being discussed here, dipshit.

4. PC Superman has plenty of outlier feats, sure. That doesn't change that he's able to do WHATEVER the writer wants him to do, without dying/getting hurt. Which is why we gauge him by the upper-echelon of his feats. He literally has to constantly hold back so he doesn't kill anyone. You might as well argue that Darth Vader would beat Goku, because SSJB Goku got pierced by a laser beam. roll eyes (sarcastic)

5. Superman was in the center of an explosion the size of 50 supernovae. Gai literally would have died from a truth seeker ball, in 8th gate.

The radiation didn't touch him? So tf what? The concussive force of 50 supernovae was still present in the blast, WHICH HE TANKED. Which you would know, if you weren't retarded. thumb down

6. Yes, that feat apparently IS misunderstood by illiterate people, such as yourself. Superman was moving at such a high speed, that the entire world surrounding him was completely motionless. He and the Flash raced, and had many conversations while in this state. What, you think Superman's talking speed is faster than his combat speed? Lol, calling you a biased simpleton would be courteous at this point, given your sheer level of stupidity. laughing

7. First off, stop using terms like "ad hominem", or "strawman", because you're using them incorrectly, and proving to everyone here how unbelievably stupid you are. A strawman argument is a pseudo-argument conjured for the purpose of intentionally misinterpreting your debating opponents argument, to make an argument against their stance without having to address the argument they're advancing.

Dumb ass.

8. Next time YOU answer, make sure not to:


Completely ignore feats because you have no argument against them.
Deny an argument because you're too stupid to counter it.
Make false assumptions based on an incomprehensibly erroneous understanding of simple physics.
Use big words that you clearly don't understand, in a feeble attempt to gratify your non-existent "intelligence".

thumb up

RealityWarper
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
1. Your entire post is a non-sensible plethora of denial and diarrhea of the mouth.


Go learn to form an argument.




So you have no combat showings for Superman ?

Your concession is accepted.



MOS Superman is the current Superman.




I don't care about your fan-fictive attempts at hyping the character, so far you didn't post anything that could be a positive argument in favour of Superman like... Combat showings.

Lee's combat speed is more than enough:


http://i.imgur.com/TFoBtO4.jpg



He wasn't touched by the energy of the fireball and he outraced the EMP...

Learn to read, especially your own scans...

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/47/1479947911-lel.jpg



He tanked nothing.

He out-raced the explosion.

Go learn to read your own scans pal.




*sigh*

Go learn the definition of words.

Your obnoxious tone is a waste of time, especially when you are talking to someone whom mastered the basics of reading and understanding since a long time, adding to that your numerous Ad Hominem...

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/perception



noun
1.
the act or faculty of perceiving, or apprehending by means of the senses or of the mind; cognition; understanding.

2.
immediate or intuitive recognition or appreciation, as of moral, psychological, or aesthetic qualities; insight; intuition; discernment:
an artist of rare perception.

3.
the result or product of perceiving, as distinguished from the act of perceiving; percept.

4.
Psychology. a single unified awareness derived from sensory processes while a stimulus is present.

5.
Law. the taking into possession of rents, crops, profits, etc.





You compared me to Dvampire, implying he is an idiot, to discredit me and my arguments.

That's an Ad Hominem by definition.




That's exactly what you did here:



That's not what I did.

I've said that:




Which is clearly not the twisted version that you presented.

In short you made a Strawman.




You are proving yourself illiterate, completely unable to understand your own scans.

How does your pathetic insults makes me feel in your opinion ?

laughing





Learn to read at first and then come again.

You are unable to understand your own scans and trying to touch my nerves with poor analysis, poor arguments and insults at kindergarten-level...


laughing

SSJGGogeta
Those are a lot of words, just to say that I'm right. thumb up

Your entire argument only has basis in your own head, because you're refusing to simply accept Superman's feats. You're in denial, and I don't particularly enjoy arguing with someone lacking in enough mental capacity to even acknowledge the fact that they're wrong. thumb down

Dramatic Gecko
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Any insult that could be conjured up by a human mind, at this point, is simply not potent enough to describe your level of sheer idiocy.

You got so close though.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
You got so close though.

I know, right? erm

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