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Touta vs Yusuke during the dark tournament before he got genkai's powers. If you don't know touta he's a vampire with an organization called uq holder.

From what point of UQ Holder is Touta in this fight?

Before his second magia erebia transformation.

Touta

http://www.mangatown.com/manga/uq_holder/c015/9.html

http://www.mangatown.com/manga/uq_holder/c023/13.html

http://www.mangatown.com/manga/uq_holder/c023/15.html

http://www.mangatown.com/manga/uq_holder/c024/

http://www.mangatown.com/manga/uq_holder/c024/2.html

http://www.mangatown.com/manga/uq_holder/c024/13.html

Hmm, okay then.

Well speedwise I think Yusuke would have an advantage then as well as in potentially strength as well. However, he lacks the sort of regen that Touta has and Touta can probably negate his spirit gun.

So it'll come down to a brawl and there's two ways that can go: Touta simply outlasts Yusuke until he's tired enough to be KOed or Yusuke just keeps attacking until Touta is paste.

Touta in normal form can lift over 20 tons. In his magia erebia form he's well over the 20 (40 tons) ton range with SPEED that goes beyond what yusuke can handle. Notice the crater that kaito created when he hit touta at speeds great than sound. Yusuke can cause that much destruction to him.

That's only if Touta can activate that form before Yusuke can paste him. And while 20 tons is a decent amount, how much weight one can lift doesn't necessarily equate to how hard they can hit too. Not all the time, anyways. All that means is that if they both try and grapple with one another, Touta would win most likely.

Yusuke is not a grappler though; he's a fist fighter with his spirit gun serving as a decent mid/long range attack.

Originally posted by danteiscool
That's only if Touta can activate that form before Yusuke can paste him. And while 20 tons is a decent amount, how much weight one can lift doesn't necessarily equate to how hard they can hit too. Not all the time, anyways. All that means is that if they both try and grapple with one another, Touta would win most likely.

Yusuke is not a grappler though; he's a fist fighter with his spirit gun serving as a decent mid/long range attack.

Touts doesn't need magia errebia to beat him. He's faster with decent strength to put him down.

Touta is moving at 8km a second. That's 4 miles in a second.

Iirc, Yusuke should be low-end hypersonic by that point in time, so Touta doesn't hold much of a speed advantage either.

And how do you know that? It didn't look that way in his fight against that wind guy. Did they say that? Or is that your horrible estimation? Touta is faster, literally.

...ah, it's you. Didn't even look at your username until now.

Anyways, looked up a calc and someone put Toguro's air bullets at around Mach 25. Which Yusuke is capable of dodging to an extent, iirc.

Touta is fast, but he has yet to demonstrate particularly impressive speed while in base form.

Originally posted by danteiscool
...ah, it's you. Didn't even look at your username until now.

Anyways, looked up a calc and someone put Toguro's air bullets at around Mach 25. Which Yusuke is capable of dodging to an extent, iirc.

Touta is fast, but he has yet to demonstrate particularly impressive speed while in base form.

Look up episode 9 of yu yu fool hakusho and watch how fast she easy trumps her competition in speed (dbs). CAN they duplicate? Or are you going to copy? Dumbass *cough* dumbass. It means toguro whoops his ass.

Oh touta wins this fight. How fast you Yusuke is going to reach the 4mile gap? Not even close. Finish your counterfeiting!

And now comes the insults. Very classy of you, very mature.

Anyways, and just how fast would she be moving in ep. 9 according to you? Fast enough that by fodderizing others, Touta somehow wins by default? I think not.

Just a lot of ducking and dodging, that's what Yusuke is up against. Touta is to nimble to be hit. What's a tenth of a minute? That's touta against yusuke!

a tenth of a minute isn't worth much against Mach 25 air bullets that Yusuke can actually dodge.

Except dumbass Yusuke isn't that fast. Can he follow touta? No. Ali baby!

Except he is that fast, if not in movement speed then in reaction speed. Ergo, he has the physical advantage so long as he doesn't let Touta bust out his magia erebea.

Anyways, I believe that's that from me. This'll be the last comment from me on this thread.

Originally posted by danteiscool
Except he is that fast, if not in movement speed then in reaction speed. Ergo, he has the physical advantage so long as he doesn't let Touta bust out his magia erebea.

Anyways, I believe that's that from me. This'll be the last comment from me on this thread.

Touta is faster than yusuke in movement speed! He can reach 4 MILES in just a few seconds! How can Yusuke reach that speed without genkai's help? He can't. Unless you have a speed feat of yusuke running that fast then yeah he can be a threat to touta. But since you're trying to steal touta's speed than makes me believe that touta is the faster character. Any in anime can be shown to fight fast!😉 It's why touta wins, better speed.