Vader/Luke/Starkiller vs. Revan/Nyriss/Meetra

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carthage
*ROTJ Luke
*Novel Revan
*KOTOR 2 Meetra

Force sabers all out

Who wins

Deronn_solo
Team 1 sweeps.

JKBart
Team 2 murders

Tondemonai
Team 2, but it's very close

darthbane77
Originally posted by JKBart
Team 2 murders

UCanShootMyNova
Team 1 in all.

Azronger
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Team 2, but it's very close

The Ellimist
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Team 1 sweeps.

Ursumeles
Team 1, mainly due to 'Killer and Vader.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
i think Carthage unwittingly made a decent fight. smile

The Ellimist
Nah, Meetra's the weak link and Nyriss is outmatched.

UCanShootMyNova
thumb up

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well I'm separating KOTOR 2 from the rest of the continuity for the purposes of this thread. smile

Ursumeles
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nah, Meetra's the weak link and Nyriss is outmatched.
KoTOR II Exile > Nyriss mad

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well I'm separating KOTOR 2 from the rest of the continuity for the purposes of this thread. smile

You're alright Skillz. smile

Originally posted by Ursumeles
KoTOR II Exile > Nyriss mad

You're adorable. smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Ursumeles
KoTOR II Exile > Nyriss mad

thumb up

smilesmilesmile

Ursumeles
I like u, Skillz smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Even though I'm a despicable bastard that has DE Sidious > Valkorion >/= ROTJ Sidious > SWTOR Vitiate >/= ROTS Sidious > Plagueis ~ Novel Vitiate? smile

UCanShootMyNova
smile

Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Even though I'm a despicable bastard that has DE Sidious > Valkorion >/= ROTJ Sidious > SWTOR Vitiate >/= ROTS Sidious > Plagueis ~ Novel Vitiate? smile
Make RotS Sidious >/= SWTOR Vitate, and Plagueis > Novel Vitate, then u are okay smile
I also like Ant, and he prolly thinks the same smile

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ant has....

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Novel Revan ~ Novel Vitiate ~ ROTS Sidious. smilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmile

UCanShootMyNova
... sad

Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ant has....

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Cancer. Brain cancer. sad sad sadsad
sad

UCanShootMyNova
thumb up sad

The Ellimist
I'm on the extreme end of there being almost no overlap between the major incarnations of Sidious and Vitiate: DE > RotJ > RotS > EoTPM > Plagueis >= TPM ~ Valkorion > TOR >= Caedus ~ Krayt > novel > Nihilus > Revan ~ Vader >= Kun > Galen Marek > Dooku ~ Ragnos.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^Caedus needs to drop. Straight to hell. smilesmilesmile

UCanShootMyNova
I mean, to be fair, I would put him among the top 5 lightsaber combatants in the mythos.

Ursumeles
@Ellimist
Disagree with Ragnos being so low, and maybe Kun's placement.
Aside from that thumb up

The Ellimist
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^Caedus needs to drop. Straight to hell. smilesmilesmile

Oops, I started mixing combative and just Force rankings.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Phuck you. smile

UCanShootMyNova
Fug*

Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^Caedus needs to drop. Straight to hell. smilesmilesmile
I hate you.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
In terms of pure force, he's not above Novel. smile

Ursumeles
As you have Novitate~Plaggy, neither is Krayt.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
thumb up

Novel~Plaggy>/=Krayt>/=Caedus in pure force

Convince me of Caedus' greatness if you feel the need to do so. smile

UCanShootMyNova
Skillz you have Vitiate ~ Plagueis?

I mean. I don't have them too far apart but I feel like Plagueis and Sidious unbalancing the Force is ambiguous enough when compared to Vitiate's feats to take the blurb seriously. How do you see it?

Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Novel~Plaggy>/=Krayt>/=Caedus in pure force

Convince me of Caedus' greatness if you feel the need to do so. smile
<|= Krayt is where I place him, lol.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Skillz you have Vitiate ~ Plagueis?

I mean. I don't have them too far apart but I feel like Plagueis and Sidious unbalancing the Force is ambiguous enough when compared to Vitiate's feats to take the blurb seriously. How do you see it?

I am also in agreement to it being ambiguous in that we don't know how impressive it makes them. "More impressive than Vitiate" doesn't suffice as an accurate quantification, imo.

But I think arguments can be made for Plagueis > Novel Vitiate that don't require the imbalance feat.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Ursumeles
<|= Krayt is where I place him, lol.

Good. We are in concert. smilesmilesmile

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I am also in agreement to it being ambiguous in that we don't know how impressive it makes them. "More impressive than Vitiate" doesn't suffice as an accurate quantification, imo.

But I think arguments can be made for Plagueis > Novel Vitiate that don't require the imbalance feat.

I mean, fair enough. I hold the stance that blurbs and statements should only be taken when supported by feats or when the issue is clouded that they can be used to clear it up. I.E. Vitiate > Nihilus. Plagueis > Vitiate. Caedus > Vader. etc.

Obviously stuff like Revan > Nihilus or Bane > Exar Kun is idiotic.

darthbane77
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ant has....

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Novel Revan ~ Novel Vitiate ~ ROTS Sidious. smilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmilesmile I don;t actually think that's where he ranks them. Pretty sure he still ranks Plagueis above prime Revan actually (for some stupid ****ing reason, no disrespect to him.)

I see it more as ROTS Sidious>Novel Vitiate (my a slim-ish margin)>Novel Revan (by an equally slim margin.)

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