Vader/Luke/Starkiller vs. Revan/Nyriss/Meetra
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carthage
*ROTJ Luke
*Novel Revan
*KOTOR 2 Meetra
Force sabers all out
Who wins
Deronn_solo
Team 1 sweeps.
Tondemonai
Team 2, but it's very close
darthbane77
Originally posted by JKBart
Team 2 murders
UCanShootMyNova
Team 1 in all.
Azronger
Originally posted by Tondemonai
Team 2, but it's very close
The Ellimist
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Team 1 sweeps.
Ursumeles
Team 1, mainly due to 'Killer and Vader.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
i think Carthage unwittingly made a decent fight.
The Ellimist
Nah, Meetra's the weak link and Nyriss is outmatched.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well I'm separating KOTOR 2 from the rest of the continuity for the purposes of this thread.
Ursumeles
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nah, Meetra's the weak link and Nyriss is outmatched.
KoTOR II Exile > Nyriss
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well I'm separating KOTOR 2 from the rest of the continuity for the purposes of this thread.
You're alright Skillz.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
KoTOR II Exile > Nyriss
You're adorable.
Ursumeles
I like u, Skillz
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Even though I'm a despicable bastard that has DE Sidious > Valkorion >/= ROTJ Sidious > SWTOR Vitiate >/= ROTS Sidious > Plagueis ~ Novel Vitiate?
Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Even though I'm a despicable bastard that has DE Sidious > Valkorion >/= ROTJ Sidious > SWTOR Vitiate >/= ROTS Sidious > Plagueis ~ Novel Vitiate?
Make RotS Sidious >/= SWTOR Vitate, and Plagueis > Novel Vitate, then u are okay
I also like Ant, and he prolly thinks the same
UCanShootMyNova
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Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ant has....
........................
Cancer. Brain cancer.
The Ellimist
I'm on the extreme end of there being almost no overlap between the major incarnations of Sidious and Vitiate: DE > RotJ > RotS > EoTPM > Plagueis >= TPM ~ Valkorion > TOR >= Caedus ~ Krayt > novel > Nihilus > Revan ~ Vader >= Kun > Galen Marek > Dooku ~ Ragnos.
UCanShootMyNova
I mean, to be fair, I would put him among the top 5 lightsaber combatants in the mythos.
Ursumeles
@Ellimist
Disagree with Ragnos being so low, and maybe Kun's placement.
Aside from that
The Ellimist
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^Caedus needs to drop. Straight to hell.
Oops, I started mixing combative and just Force rankings.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Phuck you.
Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
^Caedus needs to drop. Straight to hell.
I hate you.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
In terms of pure force, he's not above Novel.
Ursumeles
As you have Novitate~Plaggy, neither is Krayt.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Novel~Plaggy>/=Krayt>/=Caedus in pure force
Convince me of Caedus' greatness if you feel the need to do so.
UCanShootMyNova
Skillz you have Vitiate ~ Plagueis?
I mean. I don't have them too far apart but I feel like Plagueis and Sidious unbalancing the Force is ambiguous enough when compared to Vitiate's feats to take the blurb seriously. How do you see it?
Ursumeles
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Novel~Plaggy>/=Krayt>/=Caedus in pure force
Convince me of Caedus' greatness if you feel the need to do so.
<|= Krayt is where I place him, lol.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Skillz you have Vitiate ~ Plagueis?
I mean. I don't have them too far apart but I feel like Plagueis and Sidious unbalancing the Force is ambiguous enough when compared to Vitiate's feats to take the blurb seriously. How do you see it?
I am also in agreement to it being ambiguous in that we don't know how impressive it makes them. "More impressive than Vitiate" doesn't suffice as an accurate quantification, imo.
But I think arguments can be made for Plagueis > Novel Vitiate that don't require the imbalance feat.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by Ursumeles
<|= Krayt is where I place him, lol.
Good. We are in concert.
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I am also in agreement to it being ambiguous in that we don't know how impressive it makes them. "More impressive than Vitiate" doesn't suffice as an accurate quantification, imo.
But I think arguments can be made for Plagueis > Novel Vitiate that don't require the imbalance feat.
I mean, fair enough. I hold the stance that blurbs and statements should only be taken when supported by feats or when the issue is clouded that they can be used to clear it up. I.E. Vitiate > Nihilus. Plagueis > Vitiate. Caedus > Vader. etc.
Obviously stuff like Revan > Nihilus or Bane > Exar Kun is idiotic.
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