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I may as well add to the surge of TWD threads that have popped-up as of late... They are a welcome addition to the "Marvel vs. DC" monotony...



-Paul "Jesus" Monroe-
http://s21.postimg.org/rwmmto987/The_Walking_Dead_127_007.jpg


VS.


Round 1: Beta
Round 2: Beta + Negan
Round 3: Beta + Negan + The Governor
Round 4: Beta + Negan + The Governor + Michonne
Round 5: Beta + Negan + The Governor + Michonne + Abraham
Round 6: Beta + Negan + The Governor + Michonne + Abraham + Rick
Round 7: Beta + Negan + The Governor + Michonne + Abraham + Rick + Dwight
Round 8: Beta + Negan + The Governor + Michonne + Abraham + Rick + Dwight + Ezekiel /w/ Shiva



STIPS:
-Jesus has the equipment featured in the above pic(minus the horse, lol), is bloodlusted, and fully healed after every Round.
-All combatants are at their respective peaks, and have access to their standard MELEE weaponry.
-NO firearms permitted.
-Comic versions ONLY.



How far does Jesus get?

Nice thread.

Makes it to round 4 and stops there, methinks.

Any particular reason why?

Yeah. Jesus is good, but can't see him offing 3 seasoned fighters (and Governor acting as a distraction) at the same time.

It's possible of course than I'm underrating him, since his each new feat keeps amazing us...

Same as Stilt, I might even start doubting at 3.

Negan and Beta are still lethal as **** even though Jesus could run circles around them 1 on 1.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah. Jesus is good, but can't see him offing 3 seasoned fighters (and Governor acting as a distraction) at the same time. I can, tbh.

He already treated Michonne + Abe like they were talentless feebs. Adding another seasoned fighter to the mix certainly wouldn't have changed that outcome, imo. What's more, Jesus didn't even want to hurt either of them in that instance.

Jesus probably makes it to 6 or 7.

I don't really like ABC logic, but Jesus quite casually beat down Negan and Negan beat down Beta pretty easily. I can certainly see him beating both of them in a very casual manner.

Jesus easily beat michonne and Abraham in his very first appearance and he didn't even have a weapon or armor. Let's also not forget that he could have easily killed both michonne and Abraham in that fight.

The governor has nothing to suggest that he'll be anything other than a slight distraction.

Rick is impressive for sure, but he has neither the training that Abraham has nor the shows of skill that michonne has. If Rick still had his hand, he'd probably be right underneath michonne. Since he doesn't, his primary appendage that's use for offence will also need to be used for defense. I don't see it taking that long for a true martial artist like Jesus to overwhelm him (especially since Jesus is bloodlusted). Let's also not forget that a truly pissed off Rick was beaten down by Negan (and we all know how Jesus ragdolled Negan).

Keep in mind that Jesus has taken down or looked impressive against three of the toughest people in this gauntlet even while he wasn't armed or in armor. Honestly, I see Jesus dancing around them while landing each attack that he has to give.

Originally posted by Galan007
I can, tbh.

He already treated Michonne + Abe like they were talentless feebs. Adding another seasoned fighter to the mix certainly wouldn't have changed that outcome, imo. What's more, Jesus didn't even want to hurt either of them in that instance.

That's right, he essentially toyed with Michonne.

And he threw back a damned live grenade. Nobody human can do that, that's a meta feat right there.

I think Jesus can take then all. Once the numbers grow enough, they'd start getting in each others way anyways, and as quick as he restrained Negan, he can use human shields as crowd control if need be..

Originally posted by deathslash
Keep in mind that Jesus has taken down or looked impressive against three of the toughest people in this gauntlet even while he wasn't armed or in armor. Honestly, I see Jesus dancing around them while landing each attack that he has to give. Pretty much.

And there again, Jesus wasn't trying to kill Negan -- only subdue him(which he did effortlessly)... And Negan also had Lucille in that encounter.

Jesus is absolutely f*cking awesome.

I'll go ahead and post most of Jesus' more noteworthy feats, so that everyone knows what the guy is capable of...

Jesus vs. Abraham + Michonne:
http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692547_TheWalkingDead-92-ZONE-011.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692549_TheWalkingDead-92-ZONE-012.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692552_TheWalkingDead-92-ZONE-013.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692553_TheWalkingDead-92-ZONE-014.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692556_TheWalkingDead-92-ZONE-015.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692558_TheWalkingDead-92-ZONE-016.jpg


Soon afterward, Jesus soloed a group of Walkers with his hands tied behind his back(literally):
http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692611_TheWalkingDead-94-ZONE-015.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692613_TheWalkingDead-94-ZONE-016.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/24692615_TheWalkingDead-94-ZONE-017.jpg

A few reaction feats...

Catches a spear in midair that was thrown at him from close quarters:
http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25985336_The_Walking_Dead_110-006.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25985337_The_Walking_Dead_110-007.jpg


Catches a live grenade in midair, and throws it back at his attackers before it detonates:
http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25985338_The_Walking_Dead_120-007.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25985339_The_Walking_Dead_120-008.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/25985340_The_Walking_Dead_120-009.jpg

Owns several Whisperers who were armed with melee weapons:
http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707471_The_Walking_Dead_134-002.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707472_The_Walking_Dead_134-003.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707473_The_Walking_Dead_134-004.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707474_The_Walking_Dead_134-005.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707475_The_Walking_Dead_134-006.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707476_The_Walking_Dead_134-007.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707477_The_Walking_Dead_134-008.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t/24707478_The_Walking_Dead_134-009.jpg


Posting because this dismount from his horse was f*cking phenomenal:
http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/30290573_The_Walking_Dead_158-019.jpg
*bottom panels

Owns a group of Negan's men(who were all armed with automatic weapons), before casually owning/subduing Negan himself:
http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24715840_The_Walking_Dead_114-005.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24715841_The_Walking_Dead_114-006.jpg http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/24715842_The_Walking_Dead_114-007.jpg


This is important, because Negan /w/ Lucille beat the absolute shit out of Beta:
http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290574_The_Walking_Dead_159-003.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290575_The_Walking_Dead_159-004.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290576_The_Walking_Dead_159-006.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290577_The_Walking_Dead_159-007.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290578_The_Walking_Dead_159-008.jpg


Beta is the largest character we have seen in the franchise BY FAR:
http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290579_The_Walking_Dead_154-009.jpg

He is also strong enough to casually lift Negan(who is larger than average himself) off the ground with one arm:
http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30290581_The_Walking_Dead_155-014.jpg

*And as Negan states in the above scans: Beta is also VERY fast for his size.


IOW, Jesus >>> Negan > Beta.




So now everyone should know who you're dealing with.

Does he run on water?

He may as well do.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Does he run on water? Lol. At this point, that's pretty much his next step. The dude has the most 'comic-bookie' skillset in TWD by a huge margin... His skills are uber AF.

Wanted to bump this.

Ezekiel with Shiva will be too much I think since she won't go down as easy. And she could pin him down.

Totally missed this in October. Interesting. Going with Stilt's initial assessment.
Also gave Galan a chance to post many cool TWD scans.

Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty much.

And there again, Jesus wasn't trying to kill Negan -- only subdue him(which he did effortlessly)... And Negan also had Lucille in that encounter.

Jesus is absolutely f*cking awesome.

Do I hear a fanboy squeal?

Have Negan and Lucille been replace as you're top TWD character?

Man, times like this i really did wish i read TWD. I mean seriously, looking at how the TWD universe rolls and seeing a man like Jesus just coming in looking like Batman and Captain America, whooping peoples ass like that..god damn that's not fair.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Man, times like this i really did wish i read TWD. I mean seriously, looking at how the TWD universe rolls and seeing a man like Jesus just coming in looking like Batman and Captain America, whooping peoples ass like that..god damn that's not fair.

It's really good. One of my best comics I have read.

Originally posted by riv6672
Totally missed this in October. Interesting. Going with Stilt's initial assessment.
Also gave Galan a chance to post many cool TWD scans. Glad you bumped it.

Originally posted by SquallX
Do I hear a fanboy squeal?

Have Negan and Lucille been replace as you're top TWD character? Jesus is my second favorite character in the series -- second only to Negan himself.

Really hoping to get a "Here's Jesus!" backstory after Negan's has wrapped-up.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Man, times like this i really did wish i read TWD. I mean seriously, looking at how the TWD universe rolls and seeing a man like Jesus just coming in looking like Batman and Captain America, whooping peoples ass like that..god damn that's not fair. No doubt.

Jesus is a legit comic book character amongst a slew of 'real world' characters. No one is even remotely in his league individually.

I never read the comic and only jumped in on season 4 of the show, but assuming he's viable...where's Morgan?! Not that I think he's a solo match for Jesus or anything, but at least on the TV series he's shown some skills with that stick.

Morgan died way back in issue #83(we're almost to issue #162 now.)

In the comics he was never remotely close to The Book of Eli, like he is in the show.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I never read the comic and only jumped in on season 4 of the show, but assuming he's viable...where's Morgan?! Not that I think he's a solo match for Jesus or anything, but at least on the TV series he's shown some skills with that stick.

He died a while back, and he was nothing like his TV version.

*Sniped you.

Originally posted by Galan007
Morgan died way back in issue #83(we're almost to issue #162 now.)

In the comics he was never remotely close to The Book of Eli, like he is in the show.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He died a while back, and he was nothing like his TV version.

Ah. Totally makes sense not to include him then. I withdraw the question lol

Originally posted by Galan007
*Sniped you.

http://i.imgur.com/017DqoJ.png

2guns2guns2guns2guns2guns2guns

Originally posted by darthgoober
I never read the comic and only jumped in on season 4 of the show, but assuming he's viable...where's Morgan?! Not that I think he's a solo match for Jesus or anything, but at least on the TV series he's shown some skills with that stick.

Morgan is probably the most proficient in the show outside of Michonne. I believe they keep hin alive for pc purposes.

You should read the comics

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
http://i.imgur.com/017DqoJ.png

2guns2guns2guns2guns2guns2guns

Funny how the show can be so similar to the comics in some ways, yet COMPLETELY different in others. Andrea is probably the single biggest example of this.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Morgan is probably the most proficient in the show outside of Michonne. I believe they keep hin alive for pc purposes.

You should read the comics

I wish he'd break out of the zen mode and go back to being Clear Morgan. But then Rick has no opposite counterpart.

Originally posted by Galan007


Funny how the show can be so similar to the comics in some ways, yet COMPLETELY different in others. Andrea is probably the single biggest example of this.

Yeah I agree. It's a shame because Laurie Holden looked a fair bit like her and she was at one point becoming a really skilled marksman. Then they just dumped the character. She could have been redeemed. But she also had an emotional ending which was nicely done.

Originally posted by Galan007


Funny how the show can be so similar to the comics in some ways, yet COMPLETELY different in others. Andrea is probably the single biggest example of this.

Her depiction saddened me the most. I mean she acted the part they wrote well. Everyone hated her but she was a complete deviation.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I wish he'd break out of the zen mode and go back to being Clear Morgan. But then Rick has no opposite counterpart.

I havent seen any episodes since Ezekiels first appearance. In retrospect though im not even sure if the show truly needs morgan. He doesnt add anything that say the preacher doesnt

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yeah I agree. It's a shame because Laurie Holden looked a fair bit like her and she was at one point becoming a really skilled marksman. Then they just dumped the character. She could have been redeemed. But she also had an emotional ending which was nicely done.

In contrast, Andrea is still alive, and has become Rick's wife in the comics(Carl even calls her 'mom', ffs), and she is a wickedly haxx sniper. I imagine Michonne will ultimately fill that role in the show -- unless Ezekiel pulls the robbery on Rick, of course.

Originally posted by Galan007


In contrast, Andrea is still alive, and has become Rick's wife in the comics(Carl even calls her 'mom', ffs), and she is a wickedly haxx sniper. I imagine Michonne will ultimately fill that role in the show -- unless Ezekiel pulls the robbery on Rick, of course.

The one thing I'm glad they didn't add in the show is Dale ****ing Andrea, onscreen that would disgusting

Do u two watch ftwd? I feel like the mon from that show is def channeling tv version twd andrea

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Do u two watch ftwd? I feel like the mon from that show is def channeling tv version twd andrea

I've never watched it before but I've thought about watching it now so it occupies the time waiting for the 2nd half of TWD.

Couldn't get into FTWD.

@galan it has it's moments. It's still early on and i believe its trying to still find itself

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I've never watched it before but I've thought about watching it now so it occupies the time waiting for the 2nd half of TWD.

It'll annoy you at first glance. But if you're patient with your viewing it could grow on u

Originally posted by Sin I AM
@galan it has it's moments. It's still early on and i believe its trying to still find itself



It'll annoy you at first glance. But if you're patient with your viewing it could grow on u

Yeah I'll "legally" download it and give it a watch.

Like the new set, Scot.

Just need a good quote from Jesus under your sig now.

Originally posted by Galan007
Like the new set, Scot.

Just need a good quote from Jesus under your sig now.

Thanks mate . Now time to trawl through all the appearances to find the right quote.

Edit: Just found one. Always liked that line.

Even though Lydia is just a 16 year old girl, she has amazing skills -- able to solo several Whisperers primarily with a melee weapon:
http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159107_1.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159108_2.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159109_3.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159110_4.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159111_5.jpg


I only mention the above showing because Lydia was among the Whisperer-group that Jesus effortlessly tooled:
http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159112_The_Walking_Dead_134-008.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159113_The_Walking_Dead_134-009.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159114_The_Walking_Dead_134-010.jpg
*Back when she was still a Whisperer, of course.


Once again, Jesus is SO skilled that he makes even those who are VERY skilled in their own right look like talentless feebs -- we've seen this with Abraham, Michonne, Negan, and now Lydia. Dude is crazy haxx.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though Lydia is just a 16 year old girl, she has amazing skills -- able to solo several Whisperers primarily with a melee weapon:
http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159107_1.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159108_2.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159109_3.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159110_4.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159111_5.jpg


I only mention the above showing because Lydia was among the Whisperer-group that Jesus effortlessly tooled:
http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159112_The_Walking_Dead_134-008.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159113_The_Walking_Dead_134-009.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/31159114_The_Walking_Dead_134-010.jpg
*Back when she was still a Whisperer, of course.


Once again, Jesus is SO skilled that he makes even those who are VERY skilled in their own right look like talentless feebs -- we've seen this with Abraham, Michonne, Negan, and now Lydia. Dude is crazy haxx. yeah. So far he's owned a negan (a very big man who apparently practiced boxing), Abraham (an army veteran) michone (a skilled master of the blade and martial arts), and Lydia. All that and he still has feats of blitzing people armed with automatic guns and batmanning others. Again, he should lose at 6 or 7.

Tbh, it wasn't until Negan beat the shit out of Beta that I realized how skilled he actually is... And Jesus overwhelmed him with very little effort.

Originally posted by Galan007
Couldn't get into FTWD.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
@galan it has it's moments. It's still early on and i believe its trying to still find itself



It'll annoy you at first glance. But if you're patient with your viewing it could grow on u

IMO the second half of the second season picked up and is considerably better than what came before. Will still annoy when the characters do dumb things though, but I could say the same for TWD (and from what I heard TWD has suddenly been losing viewers lately).

Originally posted by basilisk
IMO the second half of the second season picked up and is considerably better than what came before. Will still annoy when the characters do dumb things though, but I could say the same for TWD (and from what I heard TWD has suddenly been losing viewers lately).


that's due solely to negan. hes good in small doses

Originally posted by Sin I AM
that's due solely to negan. hes good in small doses Seen various other reasons given though - things like some people saying the extremely violent resolution to the cliffhanger was just too much and and the show is just trying to shock now, too many characters such that it floats around with too little focus anywhere and just punctuated by character deaths to try to get attention back etc... also just that it has been running a long time and may be running out of steam like shows often do, and the tone has changed.

I do think they should ditch/kill some more of the characters and tighten it up a bit. For example I find Carol to be hell annoying and pointless these days - they had a chance to kill her they should have taken it. Morgan seems pretty pointless too, he probably should have just wandered out of the show.

Also - Jesus is good but realistically he probably can't beat everyone at once when he gets to round 5 or 6 here.

Originally posted by basilisk
Seen various other reasons given though - things like some people saying the extremely violent resolution to the cliffhanger was just too much and and the show is just trying to shock now, too many characters such that it floats around with too little focus anywhere and just punctuated by character deaths to try to get attention back etc... also just that it has been running a long time and may be running out of steam like shows often do, and the tone has changed.

I do think they should ditch/kill some more of the characters and tighten it up a bit. For example I find Carol to be hell annoying and pointless these days - they had a chance to kill her they should have taken it. Morgan seems pretty pointless too, he probably should have just wandered out of the show.

Also - Jesus is good but realistically he probably can't beat everyone at once when he gets to round 5 or 6 here.

I never understood people complaining about the violence in a finale. It's never mattered before when we saw zombies melted onto the pavement. One moving around pressing it's arm down which then tears it's arm. What did they expect to see when someone gets their head caved in with a baseball bat.

THe Tara episode which I think was genuinely bad. But I think it's good how over the last few epsidoes the pacing has been good. Carol is probably going to go back to killer mode. Though I have no idea about Morgan.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I never understood people complaining about the violence in a finale. It's never mattered before when we saw zombies melted onto the pavement. One moving around pressing it's arm down which then tears it's arm. What did they expect to see when someone gets their head caved in with a baseball bat.

THe Tara episode which I think was genuinely bad. But I think it's good how over the last few epsidoes the pacing has been good. Carol is probably going to go back to killer mode. Though I have no idea about Morgan.

Well I guess that's the thing for some viewers - not what did they expect to see when a guy's head gets caved in by a baseball bat, so much as they didn't want to see a guy's head gets caved in by a baseball bat in the first place. Zombie violence is a bit different.

But anyway I agree I've been enjoying the last few episodes though the Tara one was not so good. I'm interested to see how Jesus will compare with the comic version as things progress.

Originally posted by basilisk
Well I guess that's the thing for some viewers - not what did they expect to see when a guy's head gets caved in by a baseball bat, so much as they didn't want to see a guy's head gets caved in by a baseball bat in the first place. Zombie violence is a bit different.

But anyway I agree I've been enjoying the last few episodes though the Tara one was not so good. I'm interested to see how Jesus will compare with the comic version as things progress.

Yeah I guess you're right on the zombie violence vs human violence.

Good news on that front is Tom Payne confirmed he's training specifically for the Negan fight. Really looking forward to that.

Originally posted by basilisk
Seen various other reasons given though - things like some people saying the extremely violent resolution to the cliffhanger was just too much and and the show is just trying to shock now, too many characters such that it floats around with too little focus anywhere and just punctuated by character deaths to try to get attention back etc... also just that it has been running a long time and may be running out of steam like shows often do, and the tone has changed.

I do think they should ditch/kill some more of the characters and tighten it up a bit. For example I find Carol to be hell annoying and pointless these days - they had a chance to kill her they should have taken it. Morgan seems pretty pointless too, he probably should have just wandered out of the show.

Also - Jesus is good but realistically he probably can't beat everyone at once when he gets to round 5 or 6 here.


Maybe im being a little too harsh on Negan. But his target is the brightest. There are other reasons...the death of Glenn a fan fav, too many new characters...rick/darryl being cowed. It's kinda gloomy and depressing which is realistic and not a bad thing it just doesnt make compelling tv.