BM Raskta Lsu vs Hero of Tython sabers only

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Solar Power
SABERS ONLY
*Raskta amped by Worror's battle meditation
*Act V HoT

Bonus round:
*Raskta gets Sarro Xaj, both still amped by BM
*HoT gets Scourge

AncientPower
What are Hero's best speed feats? Raskta was literally appearing to be in seven places at the same time due to her speed, in the perceptions of Valenthyne Farfhalla, who can percieve, analyse and react to things in a mere fraction of a second.

Consider the fact that the likes of Aryn Leneer, who was moving slightly faster than Decieved Malgus, was only capable of reaching comparable speeds in a very deep moving meditation trance. Implying that in this state she could have nigh-blitzed Decieved Malgus in CQC.

Zenwolf
Kinda hard to really get feats of anything with TOR game characters..I mean you can sure, but only so many imo.

AncientPower
I imagine it is probably blitzing the Sith Warriors that defeated Master Kiwiiks.

The Ellimist
Probably the EHero.

Deronn_solo
HoT, lal.

TenebrousWay
Aryn Leener wasn't only moving fast but actually trying to match the exact moment of a hyperdrive jump from an imperial ship. She actually could perceive, analyze and interpret events with total clarity in a single nanosecond.


As one, the Imperial ships began to stretch in her perception. For a nanosecond, all of them seemed to stretch to infinity, their rear engines a hundred thousand kilometers off Fatman's bow, their forms reaching across and through an incomprehensible distance. She knew it was illusion, that it was a trick of her perception caused by the moment they entered hyperspace seeming to freeze before her eyes.

AncientPower
Yet Farfhalla's perceptions, processing and reactions are clocked at a fraction of a second and Lsu was moving fast enough to appear in seven places simultaneously to him, implying that she was clocking nanoseconds herself, doing the math.

Against Malgus, Leneer wasn't moving anywhere near as fast as she was in said trance but she repeatedly managed to react faster than he could.

The Ellimist
Originally posted by AncientPower
Yet Farfhalla's perceptions, processing and reactions are clocked at a fraction of a second and Lsu was moving fast enough to appear in seven places simultaneously to him, implying that she was clocking nanoseconds herself, doing the math.

Doing the math? Can you show me this math?

In either case, Aryn's moment was clearly not usual for her.

ChaosTheory123
That's... a leap in logic

What fraction of a second (deci, milli, micro, nano, etc?)? How much of a distance was she covering as she appeared as though she was in several different places at once?

Nanoseconds is the territory of light

I can do the math, and light travels about 0.3 meters per nanosecond

Tell me, are we given enough information to even pretend to compare the feat to that kind of timeframe and distance covered?

Specifically asking after this feat, not over whether she compares in general or if the nanoseconds claims even fly around here

The Ellimist
What does "clocking nanoseconds" even mean? You mean reacting in nanoseconds?

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by AncientPower
Yet Farfhalla's perceptions, processing and reactions are clocked at a fraction of a second and Lsu was moving fast enough to appear in seven places simultaneously to him, implying that she was clocking nanoseconds herself, doing the math.

Against Malgus, Leneer wasn't moving anywhere near as fast as she was in said trance but she repeatedly managed to react faster than he could.

Huge logical malabarism by your part. A nanosecond is a 10^-9 second. A generic fraction of a second doesn't imply comparison, in any way, with 8 orders of magnitude faster. Lsu could be moving in miliseconds and still creating the same effects on Farfhalla.

Aryn, by your own (flawed) admission, enhanced her speed to comparable levels to Lsu, but she also enhanced her perceptions in such a way that that a ray of light seemed to travel at 30cm per second; several orders of magnitude above Lsu.
By logic, if Aryn focused on speed and comparable perception, she'd blow Lsu out of the water.

Her speed advantage over Malgus was marginal at best, since she only hit glancing blows and later Malgus hit a full kick in her face.

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Doing the math? Can you show me this math?

In either case, Aryn's moment was clearly not usual for her.

She just dug deep in the force. embarrasment



She hadn't any difficult to acess this kind of perception. Note she was also enhancing her speed to blur level at the same time and multitasking with the ship interface.



Aryn >> amped Lsu

AncientPower
Even being conservative, a fraction of a second, taken literally, is at least a millisecond. Being generous it could refer to a nanosecond. Either way Lsu is moving so fast so as to appear in seven places simultaneously in said millisecond. So doing the math she is moving faster than a millisecond, thus clocking nanoseconds in speed.

Aryn Leneer was already outspeeding Malgus in combat, at a fraction of that speed. Malgus was clearly fast enough to duel multiple protags at once, that can include act 3 HoT.

Simply put a BM amped Lsu is too fast.

ChaosTheory123
You said a bunch of nothing

A fraction of a second can be anything less than a second. Deciseconds (tenths) are a thing.

Again, how far would she have moved to look like she was in 7 places at once? Unless you're talking kilometers in terms of milliseconds (using your model of time passing), a comparison to microseconds is garbage, let alone nanoseconds

Nephthys
Great battle. Lsu is probably a touch too fast based on the available evidence.

MythLord
Lsu wins.

And yeah, Farfalla was probably moving in deciseconds or something. Nanosecond+ movement is something I can only see SW top tiers like Luke, Sidious or Yoda doing... And even then.

Deronn_solo
People should leave the fan made calcs and shit outta Star Wars, lmao. No way was Farfalla, or any Star Wars character, reacting in nanoseconds without some sort of meditative trance.

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by AncientPower
Even being conservative, a fraction of a second, taken literally, is at least a millisecond. Being generous it could refer to a nanosecond. Either way Lsu is moving so fast so as to appear in seven places simultaneously in said millisecond. So doing the math she is moving faster than a millisecond, thus clocking nanoseconds in speed.

Aryn Leneer was already outspeeding Malgus in combat, at a fraction of that speed. Malgus was clearly fast enough to duel multiple protags at once, that can include act 3 HoT.

Simply put a BM amped Lsu is too fast.

Dude, you didn't prove anything. All your point leads to is that Lsu may be faster than an Aryn that was using almost all of her powers to enhance her perception to time freezing levels. The book clearly states that it was her time freezing perception who required effort to maintain, her speed isn't even mentioned.

The obvious point? If Aryn isn't spending her force powers to enhance her perception to time freezing levels she obviously does have the reserves to enhance her speed far further than she did.

Now a example of Aryn's great speed superiority over Malgus.

Emperordmb
Lsu with BM wins yeah, she's probably too damn fast. Lsu landed six strikes before Bane running superhumanly fast could cover two meters, and Bane at the time was running fast enough to blitz an unamped Farfalla from a greater distance. You don't need calcs to tell you that's insane.

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