Nikkos Tyris vs Asajj Ventress

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Ursumeles
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All-Out

UCanShootMyNova
Ventress.

Jmanghan
Tyris.

We made this on CV.

Tyris won by a hair.

MythLord
Asajj.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tyris.

We made this on CV.

Tyris won by a hair.
Atm Asajj wins on KMC, tho smile

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Atm Asajj wins on KMC, tho smile So, Tyris wins on CV.

Asajj on KMC.

Jmanghan
Even ForkLifterMatt said that Tyris would win without his armor.

Ant as well.

I want the following people's opinions on this on KMC:

ILS, Ant (maybe changed his opinion), and Nova.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Even ForkLifterMatt said that Tyris would win without his armor.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/58138700.jpg

MythLord
A dude from YouTube that migrated to ComicVine. Decent overall, but his opinion is hardly infallible.

Jmanghan
bump

Ursumeles
Asajj.

MythLord
Jmango is back? Damn...

Rockydonovang
Perhaps Tyranus' most powerful student was Asajj Ventress.
-- Star Wars Fact File 116

toplel
Originally posted by Jmanghan
bump
Missed ya buddy.

Who the hell is Nikkos Tyris, though?

Big Gerald
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tyris.

We made this on CV.

Tyris won by a hair.

You trust those dumbasses over the people at KMC???

Probably a good choice

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Big Gerald
You trust those dumbasses over the people at KMC???

Probably a good choice Ant was one of the people.

Anyway, realistically, if we're looking at them through ABC Logic, then Tyris should stand a decent chance, he's definitely a better swordsman then the likes of someone like Saesee Tiin, since he stomped Nejaa Halcyon, while Tiin would lose pretty solidly to AoTC Anakin.

Unless that opinion has changed.

Ventress isn't that impressive, she was on equal footing with AoTC Anakin way back when, and has gotten completely humiliated by Dooku (nothing wrong with that).

Ventress' best feat imo, is being able to beat Kit Fisto.

If AoTC Anakin is still considered comparable to Fisto, then Tyris is immediately > Fisto.

No one better dare come with the "Anakin wasn't serious when he was trying to beat Nejaa Halcyon", as they both trained specifically for the purpose of beating one another in sparring.

All that alone puts him into the league as a pure powerhouse, added onto that is the fact that its implied by Halcyon's vision that Tyris would have killed all 3 of them easily if Halcyon didn't kill him, and later on, this is reinforced by Desertwind claiming that he killed have killed any of them in saber combat, admitting that even two of them would lose to him.

But why do those guys mean anything? They're just randoms, right? Well, yes, but their feats alone already put them over "I, Jedi" Corran Horn through power-scaling.

It's confirmed in I, Jensaarai, that the two people that Desertwind and the other guy face are above the Female Saarai-Kaar, the same Female Saarai-Kaar that was solidly beating Corran Horn.

All this culminates into one thing, Tyris' superiority over Kit Fisto at the very least, if not, but probably above Ventress.

If you guys just can't see the simple logic behind this, I don't know what to tell you.

For Further reading, please check below.

Nikkos Tyris RT: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/nikkos-tyris-respect-thread-1831260/

Nejaa Halcyon RT: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/nejaa-halcyon-respect-thread/100285/

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Perhaps Tyranus' most powerful student was Asajj Ventress.
-- Star Wars Fact File 116

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Tyris was never stated to be a student, nor a disciple, nor an acolyte of Dooku.

Dooku just kinda brought him over to their side. It was pretty much like "Hey wanna join our side? Cool, here's a holocron to coerce ya."

That's their only real recorded meeting.

Beniboybling
ForkLifterMatt said tyris wins this is a no brainer.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tyris was never stated to be a student, nor a disciple, nor an acolyte of Dooku.

Dooku just kinda brought him over to their side. It was pretty much like "Hey wanna join our side? Cool, here's a holocron to coerce ya."

That's their only real recorded meeting.
regard;ess aotc anakin isn't fitso level, and a pre-prime ventres(who was "growing every moment" has outmatched/stalemated superior versions of anakin anyway

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
regard;ess aotc anakin isn't fitso level, and a pre-prime ventres(who was "growing every moment" has outmatched/stalemated superior versions of anakin anyway

When?

Ventress has always been solidly outclassed by Kenobi in every single one of their fights, so being in the same league as Anakin is laughable.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Jmanghan
When?

Ventress has always been solidly outclassed by Kenobi in every single one of their fights, so being in the same league as Anakin is laughable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTDCRmYM9Q
there's the also the tcw movie novelization too where ventress beat anakin as a knight

Anakin being >kenobi as of aotc is outdated.
The tcw movie novelization has anakin performing better and ventress noting kenobi as more powerful than anakin, obsession(after tcw and 5 months pre-rots) kenobi and anakin stalemating both with the blade and telkenetically.

Beniboybling
Ventress > Fisto > Kenobi > Anakin. thumb up

p.s. tyris gets trashed

Dispray
Ventress.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Rockydonovang

The tcw movie novelization has anakin performing better and ventress noting kenobi as more powerful than anakin,


Ventress's opinion is laughable.

Anakin was going toe to toe with Dooku in TCW movie. Ventress after growing far more powerful still wasn't capable of doing that solo in "Nightsisters" and "Witches of the Mist".

Neither was Kenobi at that point in time.

Total Warrior
Ventress

DarthDuelist9
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ventress's opinion is laughable.

Anakin was going toe to toe with Dooku in TCW movie. Ventress after growing far more powerful still wasn't capable of doing that solo in "Nightsisters" and "Witches of the Mist".

Neither was Kenobi at that point in time.

Anakin wasn't going to toe to with Dooku, the TCW novel made that very clear.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Anakin wasn't going to toe to with Dooku, the TCW novel made that very clear.
Quote?
Anakin fighting as well as he did vs dooku that early on never made any sense given what we see later on

Dispray
Ventress

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